AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said: I actually created a formula for ranking individual teams that made the NCAA Tournament across eras. I had a thread on it over at USCHO for quite some time. In any event, for the curious, here are where UND's teams stack up amongst the top 100 all time according to that formula (for the purposes of this thread, bolded are non-champions): 4. 1986-1987 North Dakota - 233.8107 Points 15. 2015-2016 North Dakota - 206.293 Points 19.2003-2004 North Dakota - 201.94 Points 24. 2010-2011 North Dakota - 192.042 Points 26. 1979-1980 North Dakota - 189.704 Points 34. 1996-1997 North Dakota - 186.5734 Points 50. 2000-2001 North Dakota - 170.5025 Points 57. 1998-1999 North Dakota - 164.72 Points 63. 1999-2000 North Dakota - 160.6462 Points 69. 2020-2021 North Dakota - 158.5835 Points 72. 1981-1982 North Dakota - 156.235 Points 74. 2014-2015 North Dakota - 155.409 Points 95. 1978-1979 North Dakota - 145.8522 Points Does 19-20 not register due to the season going unfinished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I'm still not over 2011. All they needed was that first one, and the floodgates were about to burst open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: I invite some of you to investigate the 1978-79 and 1982-83 squads. Was waiting for an old-timer to point out those teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux 23 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: Does 19-20 not register due to the season going unfinished? Correct. The formula relies upon various data points to compare teams across years. Some of those data points include the NCAA Tournament games. So, if there was no NCAA Tournament that season, the formula would throw a weird result. Thus, I don't include teams from a non tournament season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Shawn-O said: I'm still not over 2011. All they needed was that first one, and the floodgates were about to burst open. It did convince the coaching staff to change the type of defensemen they recruit, which helped make the 2016 title possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Shawn-O said: I'm still not over 2011. All they needed was that first one, and the floodgates were about to burst open. Same here. That was a hard loss to take. Outshot them 40-20, and the game certainly looked like pure domination. The Trupp/Malone/Frattin line alone had as many SOG as the entire Michigan team. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mmicndk1.a07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Dustin said: That team exorcised all of the Frozen Four failures between 2005 to 2015. 2016 was the sweetest of them all. You misquoted me... I implied that that win made all the demons work so hard from frustration due to us winning that they passed away from exhaustion, duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, brianvf said: Same here. That was a hard loss to take. Outshot them 40-20, and the game certainly looked like pure domination. The Trupp/Malone/Frattin line alone had as many SOG as the entire Michigan team. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mmicndk1.a07 And I remember Frattin standing in the slot with the puck on his stick and no one except the goalie in front of him. He missed the net by about a foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoalieMask Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2011 season no question - still probably my favorite all-time squad. So much talent, depth, and characters. Still tbt toughest loss to see in person at the X. 1999 as well. Stunning loss to BC. Glad many had the shot to exorcise demons the next year to not only win it, but to beat the Eagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1991-1992. Pre-season #1 only to see Jason Herter and Russ Romaniuk sign pro contracts before the start of the season and leave school for the NHL. Longest season ever, eh, @Shawn-O? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 12 hours ago, shep said: Was waiting for an old-timer to point out those teams. "old-timer"? Who the < bleep > do you think I am? @PCMor @Rick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, brianvf said: Same here. That was a hard loss to take. Outshot them 40-20, and the game certainly looked like pure domination. The Trupp/Malone/Frattin line alone had as many SOG as the entire Michigan team. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mmicndk1.a07 Talked to Barry Melrose the next morning as he was enjoying a Cigar on the bench outside of the Embassy Suites as we were heading to the Twins game and he said something along the lines of tough loss, Michigan played the whole game not to lose and got away with it, and if they played 20 times Michigan would be lucky to win twice and unfortunately for you guys once was last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDaks Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2010-2011 was the toughest loss and in my memory, the best team. The losses to BC + all other FF losses hurt, but that 2011 was just different. After all the FF losses, thought it was finally time to get it done. One underrated game that hurt losing was '09 vs UNH. That team might not stack up on this list, but that loss hurt like it does. Game that got away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 hours ago, shep said: Was waiting for an old-timer to point out those teams. Talk to @NorthDakotaHockey about the 1960 squad that should have gone back to back! He was there in person along with his grandkids to witness the final heartbreaking loss of that season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDak Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 The NCAA basketball tournament showed us the excitement and heartbreak of the one-and-done format in the NCAA Tournament. I just wonder if hockey was played in the same fashion as NCAA baseball with best two-of-three regionals/super regionals would UND have a few banners hanging in the Ralph. No way som of these talked-about teams like 2003-04, 2010-11, 1998-99 lose two of out three. It won't happen since best-of-three series cost money and money is something the NCAA doesn't like to spend on niche sports with low profile on the national sports scene. My two cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, NoDak Fan said: The NCAA basketball tournament showed us the excitement and heartbreak of the one-and-done format in the NCAA Tournament. I just wonder if hockey was played in the same fashion as NCAA baseball with best two-of-three regionals/super regionals would UND have a few banners hanging in the Ralph. No way som of these talked-about teams like 2003-04, 2010-11, 1998-99 lose two of out three. It won't happen since best-of-three series cost money and money is something the NCAA doesn't like to spend on niche sports with low profile on the national sports scene. My two cents In fairness i'm not sure UND wins the NC in 1997 or 2000 if it was best 2 out of 3. My guess is the number of banners would be similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said: And I remember Frattin standing in the slot with the puck on his stick and no one except the goalie in front of him. He missed the net by about a foot. And Trupper ringing the post with about 6 minutes left, or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Green said: In fairness i'm not sure UND wins the NC in 1997 or 2000 if it was best 2 out of 3. My guess is the number of banners would be similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 hours ago, NoDaks said: 2010-2011 was the toughest loss and in my memory, the best team. The losses to BC + all other FF losses hurt, but that 2011 was just different. After all the FF losses, thought it was finally time to get it done. One underrated game that hurt losing was '09 vs UNH. That team might not stack up on this list, but that loss hurt like it does. Game that got away. If memory serves me correctly, Duncan won like 3 draws in a row in our own end. UNH won the last draw and scored with maybe a second to go to tie it up and send to OT. Sioux were up that whole game I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Blackheart said: If memory serves me correctly, Duncan won like 3 draws in a row in our own end. UNH won the last draw and scored with maybe a second to go to tie it up and send to OT. Sioux were up that whole game I believe. Only thing I remember is Joe Finley being an absolute pylon in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Blackheart said: If memory serves me correctly, Duncan won like 3 draws in a row in our own end. UNH won the last draw and scored with maybe a second to go to tie it up and send to OT. Sioux were up that whole game I believe. Stop it! I remember that game like it was yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, SiouxFanatic said: Only thing I remember is Joe Finley being an absolute pylon in this game. And before the GTG taking a draw we won and rifling it into the crowd rather than off the glass SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Barn Guy at Home Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 My choice would be the 2003-04 team. How a team with that offensive fire power could be shut down is still a mystery to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: And before the GTG taking a draw we won and rifling it into the crowd rather than off the glass SMH And had it hit the glass the game would have been over and we win. Sigh...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: "old-timer"? Who the < bleep > do you think I am? @PCMor @Rick? Only a guy from that era would KNOW how great those teams are. I know I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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