Fighting Sioux 23

I don't think you're remembering the 2019-2020 season very well. It was one of only four seasons in UND hockey history where the team had a .800 winning percentage or higher (1986-1987 (Gino - with a title), 1998-1999 (Blais - one and done), 2015-2016 (Berry - with a title), and 2019-2020 (Berry - with a ?)). Would they have won the title that season? Who knows. But they would have been the #1 overall seed, and I would have liked their chances against anyone. Berry did a great job that season. You're also severely discounting the 2020-2021 season, and forgetting that UND (again, the #1 overall seed) played a rested Duluth squad and lost in 5OTs. If UND wins that game are you okay with Berry now? 2021-2022 wasn't terrible either. Another Penrose Cup (not the banner we all hope for, but a banner nonetheless). Another OT loss in the NCAAs (Berry has been particularly snakebitten in OT as a head coach, see season enders in 2017, 2018, 2021, 2022, and 2023)), but what I would consider an above-average season. This past season was very frustrating, and a complete disappointment given the expectations coming into the season. If next season ends the same way, I agree that looking at other options should be considered. Until then, everybody here understands the point you've made over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Let's move on.

Not that it really matters, but here are the facts about ages and the 2015-2016 North Dakota squad that played in the National Title game on the day of the championship (Canadian Players with an *): Brock Boeser - 19 Drake Caggiula - 21* Nick Schmaltz - 20 Troy Stecher - 22* (22nd birthday was the day of the Semifinal win over Denver) Austin Poganski - 20 Tucker Poolman - 22 Bryn Chyzyk - 23* Paul LaDue - 23 Rhett Gardner - 20* Johnny Simonson - 22 Keaton Thompson - 20 Christian Wolanin - 21 Coltyn Sanderson - 24* Shane Gersich - 19 Gage Ausmus - 20 Joel Janatuinen - 21 Trevor Olson - 22 Colton St. Clair - 23 Cam Johnson - 21 # of Canadians: 5 (26% of lineup) Average Age of Canadians: 22 Average Age of Entire Team: 21 (7th youngest team in college hockey that season - 3 months younger than this year's Gopher squad)

Agreed. Since Frattin scored 36 in 2010-2011, here are the guys to pot 20+ in a season: Brock Nelson (2011-2012) - 28 Brock Boeser (2015-2016) - 27 Danny Kristo (2012-2013) - 26 Drake Caggiula (2015-2016) - 25 Shane Gersich (2016-2017) - 21 Gaber definitely has the talent to join this group, and coupled with the influx of offensive prowess coming in this season, 20+ should definitely be the goal. But I would be perfectly fine with 30+. : p

Ehh, at one point "Bucci" was talking about how the Gophers played for the National Championship last season (despite the fact that he called the game between DU and Mankato just three months ago). Sadly, he is one of college hockey's biggest advocates at ESPN.

Basically every team is going to win 60 games, and every team is going to lose 60 games. The Twins are 5-1 against Detroit thus far this season. They have 13 more games against the Tigers. They probably will lose at least 2-3 more times. Take a deep breath...it's a long season. ; )

FWIW, I have him at 5 points (2g, 3a) in 14 games against D1 teams in exhibition games (.36 ppg / .14 gpg).

Yes. Kids commit to programs. While a Grade A facility doesn't hurt, I don't believe it really plays a huge factor in a kid's decision to play for a program. Look at a program like Denver. DU doesn't have Grade A facilities, but has always been in the mix since Gwoz took over that program. Heck, look at most of the recent national title winners outside of Duluth and North Dakota: Denver, Massachusetts, Providence, Union, Yale...even Boston College doesn't have that impressive of facilities. Also, even after Amsoil, Sandy had some pretty lean years after the title in '11, including a losing season and a .500 season (North Dakota's last season at .500 or worse was under Blais in 2001-2002). It would be another 6 full years before the Bulldogs returned to the Frozen Four.

Per the "analytics" draft charts, it was a win for the Vikings. New GM is an analytics guy. I'm guessing the guys they had the highest grades on were already gone, so may as well trade? Also, letting Detroit move up to draft yet another first round WR named Williams was probably just too much to pass up. ; p

If you look at the first post of that thread, it has links to the prior threads (back when USCHO capped threads at 1000 posts). I've been posting the formula results over there since 2010.

Nice work, although I'm pretty sure Minnesota only has 12 championship game appearances.

Well, it's official. Denver now has more National Championships than fans.

FWIW, Denver and North Dakota tend to win titles in close proximity to one another. 1958 - Denver wins National Title. 1959 - North Dakota responds and captures the title. 1960 & 1961 - Denver goes back-to-back 1963 - North Dakota gets back on the board 1968 & 1969 - Denver goes back-to-back again. ------MEANINGFUL GAP----- 1980 - North Dakota gets third title. 1982 - North Dakota gets fourth title. 1987 - North Dakota ties it up with Denver, capturing its 5th title. -----MEANINGFUL GAP----- 1997 - North Dakota finally goes ahead of DU, winning its 6th title. 2000 - North Dakota wins another, goes up 7-5. 2004 & 2005 - Denver goes back-to-back for a third time, and knots up the score at 7 apiece. -----MEANINGFUL GAP----- 2016 - North Dakota edges back ahead of DU, capturing its 8th title 2017 - Denver storms back to tie it up at 8. 2022 - Denver sneaks ahead, winning its 9th title. 2023 - ????

Well, for football, ESPN usually uses "Michigan St." I would imagine the same would be true for hockey.

Agreed. Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole...Ole!

That's pretty common for them. Took them 26 years to win their first. Then got 3 in a span of 6 seasons. Then they had a drought of 23 years. Then won back-to-back. Assuming this score holds, their current drought will reach 20 seasons. In fact, of all the teams that have won more than 2 titles, all have had (or currently are on) droughts of at least 20+ years...with one exception. ; )