2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

[TheFlop]

Oxbow isn't gonna like this.....https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6743075-Mayville-State-to-house-COVID-19-positive-students-on-cots-in-wellness-center-in-person-learning-to-continue

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

16 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Oxbow isn't gonna like this.....https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6743075-Mayville-State-to-house-COVID-19-positive-students-on-cots-in-wellness-center-in-person-learning-to-continue

You poured what?  Liquid hand sanitizer.  On their what?  In their masks.  That's outrageous.  Are you angry, U.N.?  Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. No, I'm not angry. I'm glad to see you COVIDiots...you Comets finally fought back.  I think you'd make a fine addition to Tri-Corona.  And I wanna welcome you aboard.  Congratulations.

[The Sicatoka]

Good grief. 

Housing those low risk positives all together there’s a higher risk of pregnancy than fatality. 

[The Sicatoka]

Reality check:

Science has never saved a life; it has only delayed death. 

[gfNDfan]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Reality check:

Science has never saved a life; it has only delayed death. 

Then living in ND is just fantastic today and everyday - SUPER!   Thanks Dr. Atlas:-)

[Nodak78]

[Oxbow6]

February 1 thru October 24 ages 5-14 in the US:

All deaths involving Covid: 39

All deaths from all causes: 3931

We'll see how Joey B., the "experts" and "science" spin this if they have the opportunity when deciding to keep kids out of the classroom thru 2024.

[Oxbow6]

5 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

Then living in ND is just fantastic today and everyday - SUPER!   Thanks Dr. Atlas:-)

It really is.....minus the weather.

[Oxbow6]

12 hours ago, TheFlop said:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/31/vancouver-wa-erupts-after-cops-fatally-shoot-black-man/

BLM = Peace 

BLM vs Antifa in a street fight........

 

...and let me get this straight this was set off by another black man brandishing at gun at the police? 

Cue the Chris Rock clip again please.

[Wilbur]

19 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

It really is.....minus the weather.

You're sure it beats Detroit?  

[Nodak78]

 

[Nodak78]

https://www.fox29.com/news/philadelphia-firefighters-vote-to-uphold-endorsement-of-president-trump

 

[Oxbow6]

[Nodak78]

Mr. Biden is too old for the job, and fragile. There is a very real chance he will not make it through the term. Mr. Trump is also too old but seemingly robust. But in Mike Pence, Mr. Trump has a vice president ready to take over, if need be. He is a safe pair of hands. Sen. Kamala Harris gives no evidence of being ready to be president.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2020/10/31/editorial-donald-trump-joe-biden-mike-pence-kamala-harris-presidential-candidate-endorsement/stories/202010310021?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1604232731

[SiouxFan100]

I somewhat soured on Pence over the years. His wierd stares of admiration toward trump freak me out. I don’t think he did a great job on the Covid task force- though hindered by Trump. He seems to be able to lie with the best of them.

that said, I would rather have him as president than Harris.

[Nodak78]

46 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

I somewhat soured on Pence over the years. His wierd stares of admiration toward trump freak me out. I don’t think he did a great job on the Covid task force- though hindered by Trump. He seems to be able to lie with the best of them.

that said, I would rather have him as president than Harris.

Your charade of voting Republican except Trump.   ummmm.  Give it up.

[yzerman19]

Having voted yesterday, I took a moment this morning to re-read something in totality that I hadn’t read in awhile. I was surprisingly moved to tears.  The thought that the words and principles conveyed are to be canceled or somehow discounted based upon its unquestionably brilliant author’s significant imperfections, complexities, and self-described hypocrisy.  Well, in this man’s opinion It might be the most perfect essay ever drafted...

[yzerman19]

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:

I somewhat soured on Pence over the years. His wierd stares of admiration toward trump freak me out. I don’t think he did a great job on the Covid task force- though hindered by Trump. He seems to be able to lie with the best of them.

that said, I would rather have him as president than Harris.

My order of Prefefrence of the four

1. Biden
2. Pence
3. Harris

.

 

4. Trump
Isn't there a snario where House picks P and Senate picks VP?
 

[Bison06]

7 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

My order of Prefefrence of the four

1. Biden
2. Pence
3. Harris

.

 

4. Trump
Isn't there a snario where House picks P and Senate picks VP?
 

Harris ahead of Trump?

So you are voting completely based on personality? She is further left than Bernie, objectively so.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

3 hours ago, Nodak78 said:

Mr. Biden is too old for the job, and fragile. There is a very real chance he will not make it through the term. Mr. Trump is also too old but

I don't think you understand. 

Biden will appoint a Cabinet that will get things done, as where T's Cabinet wasn't all that supportive of him - especially at the start. Trump also hired outlaws, to help fight the laws.
A good manager hires a team. Kamala Harris will be the most powerfull VP ever, that's in Biden's blood. He wanted to be in on discussions of every big deal when he was VP, and was so much more so than any other VP. There will be a big change in the way the WH governs, called working with Congress. All the Departments within our govenment will be back to working for the people and not for T.

This is why I put policies of a party in the back seat. T is not for you cult members.
#1 is remove T. Get Ameria back again!

[SiouxFan100]

I will not get into a pissing match.

I am concerned that trump may have turned honorable people into less honorable people. What has he done to folks with his demand for personal loyalty?  It appears he gets rid of anyone (even heads off agencies that are supposed to be apolitical) who isn’t 100% loyal to him personally. I feel this is wrong and a threat to our country.

 I think Pence is a good man. I think he would be a better man if not under trump’s thumb. I think he would have been better with Covid if not for Trump. Trump pulls all the strings. 

personally, I would be much better off in a Republican administration. But, how can you justify all the Republican voter suppression? I could go on and on.

 I consider myself church going. It concerns me what the Democratic Party preaches about numerous issues. Heck, can’t even say Merry Christmas. Their stance on Immigration issues bother me. Seems we get pushed around in foreign affairs. Generally I feel the Democratic Party is too anti business. Businesses are not the enemy.  I could go in and on.
 
I was very torn in who to support this time. As I have said before - I was more concerned about Trump (and what he has done to the Republican Party - adding later my concern to what trump has done and will do to the country checks and balances) than voting for Biden. Not voting or voting a protest vote doesn’t make sense to me.

maybe I don’t say things correctly all the time but these are my opinions

again no pissing contest for me. 

 

[Bison Dan]

7 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

I don't think you understand. 

Biden will appoint a Cabinet that will get things done, as where T's Cabinet wasn't all that supportive of him - especially at the start. Trump also hired outlaws, to help fight the laws.
A good manager hires a team. Kamala Harris will be the most powerfull VP ever, that's in Biden's blood. He wanted to be in on discussions of every big deal when he was VP, and was so much more so than any other VP. There will be a big change in the way the WH governs, called working with Congress. All the Departments within our govenment will be back to working for the people and not for T.

This is why I put policies of a party in the back seat. T is not for you cult members.
#1 is remove T. Get Ameria back again!

You couldn't be more confused.  First - a cabinet to get things done, explain what?  How could anyone work with the House?  All the departments working will be again be working for themselves and the deep state.   Hard to run any government when half of it is working against you.  4 years of the media with 94% negative coverage.  Obviously you are easily influenced. 

[bison73]

20 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Nobody is OK with all this mayhem.  However that doesn't necessarily equate to an advantage for Trump.   Any reasonable person can also deduce that current levels of rioting and social turmoil did not exist before Trump.    

     

[Nodak78]

18 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

I don't think you understand. 

Biden will appoint a Cabinet that will get things done, as where T's Cabinet wasn't all that supportive of him - especially at the start. Trump also hired outlaws, to help fight the laws.
A good manager hires a team. Kamala Harris will be the most powerfull VP ever, that's in Biden's blood. He wanted to be in on discussions of every big deal when he was VP, and was so much more so than any other VP. There will be a big change in the way the WH governs, called working with Congress. All the Departments within our govenment will be back to working for the people and not for T.

This is why I put policies of a party in the back seat. T is not for you cult members.
#1 is remove T. Get Ameria back again!