Nodak78 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Trump kept on declaring the US is 'rounding the turn' on COVID-19, even as it recorded its 2 worst-ever days of infections https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-kept-on-declaring-the-us-is-rounding-the-turn-on-covid-19-even-as-it-recorded-its-2-worst-ever-days-of-infections/ar-BB1ane4b?ocid=msedgdhp So why do you think the black individuals polled in a 5 day period increase from 25 to 46% of saying they intended to vote for Trump. Sampling error? Or maybe Ice cube and fiddy cents. Or Biden past of locking up blacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: So why do you think the black individuals polled in a 5 day period increase from 25 to 46% of saying they intended to vote for Trump. Sampling error? Or maybe Ice cube and fiddy cents. Or Biden past of locking up blacks. Maybe Smear canpaign has a little to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: So why do you think the black individuals polled in a 5 day period increase from 25 to 46% of saying they intended to vote for Trump. Sampling error? Or maybe Ice cube and fiddy cents. Or Biden past of locking up blacks. They are finally figuring out that dems have been using them the last 50 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, sioux rube said: They are finally figuring out that dems have been using them the last 50 years No. Its because you're stupid enough to believe that poll Sue's Lube. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Anyone remember when the Republican Party was known as the Party of Ideas. 1980s, since the party of pseudo-scandals. Burning Down the House --- because of efforts by R Newt Gingrich to bring down House Speaker Jim Wright in the late 1980s. Gingrich claimed that Wright was the most corrupt speaker in the 20th century, comparing him to Mussolini. In short, Wright resigned, Gingrich soon became speaker himself, and the GOP was off to pseudo-scandals. Since then, the R Party came into cahoots with media Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in manufacturing one pseudo-scandal after another: Vince Foster’s suicide, Whitewater, Mena airport, John Kerry’s Swift Boat service, Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s emails, among others. The process has been turbocharged under T who is even more ruthless. He won the 2016 election by defaming a former secretary of state as Crooked Hillary. Demanded that she be locked up for unspecified offenses. Now he is running the same playbook on Joe Biden. T got impeached by trying to blackmail Ukrainian officials into accusing Biden & Hunter of wrongdoing. That didn’t stop T’s attorney, Giuliani, from working with shady Ukrainian contacts, including a lawmaker described as a Russian agent by T’s own Treasury Department, to produce dirt on Biden. Until recently, this had resulted of interest only to One America News Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, sioux rube said: They are finally figuring out that dems have been using them the last 50 years Bingo. This election is over. Trump with a huuuge win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Anyone remember when the Republican Party was known as the Party of Ideas. 1980s, since the party of pseudo-scandals. Burning Down the House --- because of efforts by R Newt Gingrich to bring down House Speaker Jim Wright in the late 1980s. Gingrich claimed that Wright was the most corrupt speaker in the 20th century, comparing him to Mussolini. In short, Wright resigned, Gingrich soon became speaker himself, and the GOP was off to pseudo-scandals. Since then, the R Party came into cahoots with media Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in manufacturing one pseudo-scandal after another: Vince Foster’s suicide, Whitewater, Mena airport, John Kerry’s Swift Boat service, Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s emails, among others. The process has been turbocharged under T who is even more ruthless. He won the 2016 election by defaming a former secretary of state as Crooked Hillary. Demanded that she be locked up for unspecified offenses. Now he is running the same playbook on Joe Biden. T got impeached by trying to blackmail Ukrainian officials into accusing Biden & Hunter of wrongdoing. That didn’t stop T’s attorney, Giuliani, from working with shady Ukrainian contacts, including a lawmaker described as a Russian agent by T’s own Treasury Department, to produce dirt on Biden. Until recently, this had resulted of interest only to One America News Network. Wow. I think people need to believe in something and apparently you took it a little further and believe anything or even everything. The mainstream media is a scary place for the small minded these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: No. Its because you're stupid enough to believe that poll Sue's Lube. Lol Check this fivethirtyeight poll. Nate Silver is a Dem. Check out the grow in Black and Hispanic group under 44 years old. Huge swing to Trump. Why is Obamer trying to save Joe. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Anyone remember when the Republican Party was known as the Party of Ideas. 1980s, since the party of pseudo-scandals. Burning Down the House --- because of efforts by R Newt Gingrich to bring down House Speaker Jim Wright in the late 1980s. Gingrich claimed that Wright was the most corrupt speaker in the 20th century, comparing him to Mussolini. In short, Wright resigned, Gingrich soon became speaker himself, and the GOP was off to pseudo-scandals. Since then, the R Party came into cahoots with media Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in manufacturing one pseudo-scandal after another: Vince Foster’s suicide, Whitewater, Mena airport, John Kerry’s Swift Boat service, Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s emails, among others. The process has been turbocharged under T who is even more ruthless. He won the 2016 election by defaming a former secretary of state as Crooked Hillary. Demanded that she be locked up for unspecified offenses. Now he is running the same playbook on Joe Biden. T got impeached by trying to blackmail Ukrainian officials into accusing Biden & Hunter of wrongdoing. That didn’t stop T’s attorney, Giuliani, from working with shady Ukrainian contacts, including a lawmaker described as a Russian agent by T’s own Treasury Department, to produce dirt on Biden. Until recently, this had resulted of interest only to One America News Network. TDS alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: TDS alert Giuliani turned over to NY Post the contents of a laptop. The alleged emails have never been authenticated, and the NY Times revealed that the NY Post’s lead reporter refused to put his name on an article he wrote. Wash Post reported that T’s own national security adviser told him that any information G brought from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia. Intelligence officers warned that the emails have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. John Ratcliffe, denies that the laptop is part of a Russian operation, but he has poor credibility. Then the right-wing scandal merchants start employing the supposed Hunter Biden emails to malign his father. The NY Post first claimed that Biden had met with Burisma. Unproved by the documents in the paper’s possession, and one that spokesmen for both Hunter & Biden deny. Even if true, this wouldn’t be wrong, because the vice president didn’t do anything to help the Ukrainian energy company. Biden did pressure Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor, but the prosecutor wasn’t investigating Burisma. The 2nd non-scandal is the claim that Biden was part of a 2017 deal with Hunter involving a Chinese oil company. Even if true, this also wouldn’t be wrong, because Biden was then a private citizen. But it’s not true. The Wall Street Journal reports that the venture never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals and that corporate records show no role for Biden. So this was a deal that never occurred and that Biden not involved. Quite the scandal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Giuliani turned over to NY Post the contents of a laptop. The alleged emails have never been authenticated, and the NY Times revealed that the NY Post’s lead reporter refused to put his name on an article he wrote. Wash Post reported that T’s own national security adviser told him that any information G brought from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia. Intelligence officers warned that the emails have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. John Ratcliffe, denies that the laptop is part of a Russian operation, but he has poor credibility. Then the right-wing scandal merchants start employing the supposed Hunter Biden emails to malign his father. The NY Post first claimed that Biden had met with Burisma. Unproved by the documents in the paper’s possession, and one that spokesmen for both Hunter & Biden deny. Even if true, this wouldn’t be wrong, because the vice president didn’t do anything to help the Ukrainian energy company. Biden did pressure Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor, but the prosecutor wasn’t investigating Burisma. The 2nd non-scandal is the claim that Biden was part of a 2017 deal with Hunter involving a Chinese oil company. Even if true, this also wouldn’t be wrong, because Biden was then a private citizen. But it’s not true. The Wall Street Journal reports that the venture never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals and that corporate records - show no role for Biden. So this was a deal that never occurred and that Biden wasn’t involved in. Quite the scandal. Simple solution. Hunter just deny they are your emails. Photo of Biden with Burisma head was on they web. Joe asked to have taken down. I don't have time to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Check this fivethirtyeight poll. Nate Silver is a Dem. Check out the grow in Black and Hispanic group under 44 years old. Huge swing to Trump. Why is Obamer trying to save Joe. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/ Even with that shift, 80% of younger blacks are still voting Biden; as are 65% of younger Hispanics. That's NOT good news for Trump, particularly considering these demographics didn't turn-out en masse 4 years ago. And that's on top of (as the link you posted stated) Trump is losing the white vote. And you think this is a good sign for Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, UNDlaw80 said: Even with that shift, 80% of younger blacks are still voting Biden; as are 65% of younger Hispanics. That's NOT good news for Trump, particularly considering these demographics didn't turn-out en masse 4 years ago. And that's on top of (as the link you posted stated) Trump is losing white voters. And you think this is a good sign for Trump? define younger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: define younger? Read the link Nodak78 posted. I'm using the numbers from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Even with that shift, 80% of younger blacks are still voting Biden; as are 65% of younger Hispanics. That's NOT good news for Trump, particularly considering these demographics didn't turn-out en masse 4 years ago. And that's on top of (as the link you posted stated) Trump is losing the white vote. And you think this is a good sign for Trump? Do all the polls you want. Two words: Electoral College. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, UNDlaw80 said: Read the link Nodak78 posted. so 44 is the new 30...rmolalssoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Do all the polls you want. Two words: Electoral College. Yep. That's why state polls are just as important as national ones, even more so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just for comparison... the platforms of each party: President Trump’s second term agenda: JOBS Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months Create 1 Million New Small Businesses Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs “Made in America” Tax Credits Expand Opportunity Zones Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence ERADICATE COVID-19 Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020 Return to Normal in 2021 Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring Back their Manufacturing to the United States No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World HEALTHCARE Cut Prescription Drug Prices Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums End Surprise Billing Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions Protect Social Security and Medicare Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services EDUCATION Provide School Choice to Every Child in America Teach American Exceptionalism DRAIN THE SWAMP Pass Congressional Term Limits End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens DEFEND OUR POLICE Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System The 2020 Democratic Party Platform is now posted on the internet. It’s an all-encompassing and mind-boggling 92 pages telling how a DNC House, Senate, and President would run the United States. It clearly states exactly how the DNC proposes to handle every problem faced by America and its allies and foes. Please read it before you vote. Here are some highlights, Including: *Universal healthcare and Medicaid for all Americans and illegal aliens. (Pg 61) *$15 minimum wage which will force businesses to close *Immediate citizenship for illegals (Pg 63) *Free college (Pg 65) *Forgiveness of student loans (Pg 71) *Eliminate border walls and Immigration Enforcement (Pg 62, 64 & 65) *Make Washington D.C. the 51st State. *Abortion for “all women & girls.” (Pg 83) *$70 trillion Green New Deal, where the USA would be “net-zero greenhouse gas by 2050.” But CLOSE all coal & natural gas power plants by 2035. By 2030 all new construction in the USA must be net-zero greenhouses. *Create a U.S. Agency for Global Media “to ensure that only accurate information is reported in the news or on the internet.” *Rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement which is not equal to China *Create a new federal agency of 100,000 people to trace every American. *Immediately restore voting rights for convicted felons. *Create a new Federal Credit Bureau (to replace Equafax, et al), and require banks to use this new credit reporting service that will be set up to assist low-income people in buying houses and cars. *Make gun manufacturers responsible and liable for how their guns are used. (Destroy gun manufacturing) *Declare and treat drug use as a mental illness instead of an illegal activity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 T makes accusations of corruption in last Debate. Before T coming to the WH he lived in penthouse apartment and flew his own plane. He accused Biden, who spent years commuting on Amtrak, of having houses all over the place. On a call with campaign staff, T said Biden should be in jail because he’s a criminal. Sound similar to 4 years ago. Right-wing rumormongers start spreading even more vile accusations against Hunter that are straight out of QAnon. Then, T Jr. claimed to Fox News that Hunter is linked to “human trafficking & prostitution rings, with no evidence. The scandal is not anything that Biden did. It is that T is running the sleaziest presidential campaign, while unable to explain his health care policies and not showing his taxes. Yes, flinging accusations far from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, zonadub said: Just for comparison... the platforms of each party: President Trump’s second term agenda: Where's the part to end Russian election interference. Where's the part to end smear campaigns. Stop the lies Income tax records Repeating false accusations. P conflicts of interest Running a sleazy presidential campaign Etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I can accept that Trump isn't a nice man, but geezus the other guy is senile. https://nypost.com/2020/10/25/biden-appears-to-confuse-trump-with-former-president-george-w-bush/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Where's the part to end Russian election interference. Where's the part to end smear campaigns. Stop the lies Income tax records Repeating false accusations. P conflicts of interest Running a sleazy presidential campaign Etc. Eliminating freedom of the press prosecution of political opponents loyalty pledge to trump as opposed to the good ole USA surrounding himself with yes men And firing anyone who speaks out god knows what deals we would end up with Putin at our country expense self enrichment god knows what roles his sons would play In a 2nd administration he might find a way to golf a little more eliminate and obstruct any congressional oversight buddy up with more dictators and further alienate our allies continue to pursue the legal argument that a president is above the law - a president cannot commit a crime McDonalds for everyone! etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheFlop said: I can accept that Trump isn't a nice man, but geezus the other guy is senile. https://nypost.com/2020/10/25/biden-appears-to-confuse-trump-with-former-president-george-w-bush/ Agree that Biden is not a young man how did we end up with these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said: Agree that Biden is not a young man how did we end up with these two? Kind of sad. We had 17 R candidates with T 4 years ago, some pretty good. We had as many D this year, some pretty good. Thinking Bernie was the only one older out of both groups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 This is beyond fantastic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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