Goon Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Italian doctors say COVID-19 is losing potency. WHO say that’s not likely Quote Two Italian doctors said Sunday that the novel Coronavirus that devastated their country has lost most of its potency and that it “clinically no longer exists in Italy.”The country’s health minister office and officials at the World Health Organization were quick to condemn the statements, saying it’s too early to make such pronouncements.
Goon Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 13 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: Turns out, that scientific data was complete and utter nonsense. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine Yikes! Quote A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology.
The Sicatoka Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Quote but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology We now go to a press conference led by Surgisphere's spokesman explaining their methodology ... 1
MafiaMan Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Goon said: Italian doctors say COVID-19 is losing potency. WHO say that’s not likely Yea, they’d better wait until the government topples in Italy and is replaced by a socialist-green coalition before making those kind of statements about COVID-19 being done and over with! 2
SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 The WHO was extremely slow at declaring COVID a pandemic. The WHO was extremely fast at suspending the trail of HCQ. The question is now, why? Who had the most to benefit if HCQ proves to be effective against COVID?
jdub27 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 14 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: Turns out, that scientific data was complete and utter nonsense. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine How about this one? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 Quote RESULTS We enrolled 821 asymptomatic participants. Overall, 87.6% of the participants (719 of 821) reported a high-risk exposure to a confirmed Covid-19 contact. The incidence of new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%]); the absolute difference was −2.4 percentage points (95% confidence interval, −7.0 to 2.2; P=0.35). Side effects were more common with hydroxychloroquine than with placebo (40.1% vs. 16.8%), but no serious adverse reactions were reported. CONCLUSIONS After high-risk or moderate-risk exposure to Covid-19, hydroxychloroquine did not prevent illness compatible with Covid-19 or confirmed infection when used as postexposure prophylaxis within 4 days after exposure. 1 minute ago, SiouxBoys said: The question is now, why? Who had the most to benefit if HCQ proves to be effective against COVID? Can we also ask the other side on who has the most to gain if it does prove to be effective?
SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Can we also ask the other side on who has the most to gain if it does prove to be effective? Sure. The people whose lives it may save.
SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, jdub27 said: How about this one? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638
SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/unreliable-data-doubt-snowballed-covid-19-drug-research-surgisphere-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine
yzerman19 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 LA city council passed a measure to dramatically cut the LAPD budget. The voices of the righteous are being conflated with the agendas of extremists. Protests against systemic racism and police violence which I consider a righteous voice in response to the triad of “Karen” in Central Park, Aubrey in GA, and Floyd in Mpls, are now being used as the platform to push the anti police, anti prison, anti ICE, pro socialism extremist agenda. Making everyone’s lives worse does not make marginalized community member’s lives better. We have to discern that which must be heard from the temper tantrums. The redistribute wealth, open borders crowd has no legitimacy in piling onto the protests of police brutality and systemic racism. Being pro-borders does not make you a racist. Being pro-capitalism does not make you a racist. It’s more nuanced. Pro borders but only for immigrants from “sh!thole” countries is bad, pro capitalism via exploitation is bad. Pro borders regardless if immigrants from Norway or Nigeria is about sovereignty. Pro capitalism that builds jobs and communities and wealth is about opportunity. 2
MrEdway Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, yzerman19 said: LA city council passed a measure to dramatically cut the LAPD budget. The voices of the righteous are being conflated with the agendas of extremists. Protests against systemic racism and police violence which I consider a righteous voice in response to the triad of “Karen” in Central Park, Aubrey in GA, and Floyd in Mpls, are now being used as the platform to push the anti police, anti prison, anti ICE, pro socialism extremist agenda. Making everyone’s lives worse does not make marginalized community member’s lives better. We have to discern that which must be heard from the temper tantrums. The redistribute wealth, open borders crowd has no legitimacy in piling onto the protests of police brutality and systemic racism. Being pro-borders does not make you a racist. Being pro-capitalism does not make you a racist. It’s more nuanced. Pro borders but only for immigrants from “sh!thole” countries is bad, pro capitalism via exploitation is bad. Pro borders regardless if immigrants from Norway or Nigeria is about sovereignty. Pro capitalism that builds jobs and communities and wealth is about opportunity. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/theyre-getting-sht-kicked-out-them-antifa-attempt-riot-california-suburb-goes-awry Still some hope. Take care of yourself and community. 1
SWSiouxMN Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 10:18 AM, homer said: This follows what the Notre Dame had put into place as well. Get the kids on campuses and get the semester completed if this is truly a valid concern. There probably will be more of this (wonder if NDUS/U of M/MNSCU will follow the same path here.) I wonder if this could become a permanent move.
Goon Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 These States Reopened a Month Ago After COVID-19 Shutdowns. Here’s What Happened. Quote In 47 states, hospitalization for COVID-19 either has been flat or has decreased, said Dr. Lee Gross, president of Docs 4 Patient Care, a health care advocacy group. As testing expands, the number of confirmed cases will increase, Gross said, and the most notable measurement is of serious cases. “The key is not to focus on just the number of cases, but how seriously ill people are,” Gross, who practices family medicine in North Port, Florida, told The Daily Signal. “There are many diseases that don’t shut down the economy for months.” The only three states with increasing hospitalization rates for COVID-19 are Hawaii, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin, he said. 1
yzerman19 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Goon said: These States Reopened a Month Ago After COVID-19 Shutdowns. Here’s What Happened. This is consistent with data that I see. I agree 100% that cases is the wrong measurement in the circumstances of expanding testing and a disease that is most often mild.
SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 And just like that, the Lancet has retracted it's story regarding HCQ. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-major-covid-19-paper-that-raised-safety-concerns-about-malaria-drugs/ Now we wait for Fauci to retract his statements as well. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-coronavirus-283980 Daily reminder that Fauci is an absolute fraud. 1
The Sicatoka Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 When's her peaceful sit-in at Fargo City Hall? Hint. Her case took nine months for charges (better yet, note the charges), and the trial sentence came down two years after her death.
Siouxphan27 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: When's her peaceful sit-in at Fargo City Hall? Hint. Her case took nine months for charges (better yet, note the charges), and the trial sentence came down two years after her death. You and Drew Brees....couple of racists I tell ya!
The Sicatoka Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: You and Drew Brees....couple of racists I tell ya! Brees is a football-ist; I'm a hockey-ist.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 19 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: The WHO put a halt on trials of hydroxychloroquine after the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine published studies based on data from Surgisphere. The Lancet article was used by Fauci to claim that HCQ doesn't work. The only problem is that the data from Surgisphere was completely made up. There are only five employees in Surgishpere. One of the employees, who is listed as a science editor, is a science fiction author and fantasy artist. Another employee, listed as a marketing executive, is an adult model. If you need anymore evidence that Fauci is an absolute fraud and needs to be fired, then I don't know what to tell you. 2
Siouxphan27 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Brees is a football-ist; I'm a hockey-ist. After his comments about his pride in the U.S. flag and everyone who fought for it, he may just get himself banned by his own teammates.
Vegas_Sioux Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: After his comments about his pride in the U.S. flag and everyone who fought for it, he may just get himself banned by his own teammates. And back pedaled better then some of them too.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: After his comments about his pride in the U.S. flag and everyone who fought for it, he may just get himself banned by his own teammates. he's apologized now and michael thomas accepted it so now the heat is back on mt for accepting an apology from a closet racist.....
UNDlaw80 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Does anyone know if Mexico is gonna pay for this wall?
Popular Post SiouxBoys Posted June 4, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Does anyone know if Mexico is gonna pay for this wall? Do you charge Trump for the space in your head or does he live there rent free? 4 4
UND1983 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Does anyone know if Mexico is gonna pay for this wall? I doubt it but you never know
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