UND- NDSU GDT 9/7/2019

[Oxbow6]

Watched the halftime interview with Bubba........................ufffffffff.  He looked like he was asked to give the 6 digit numerical value of Pi.

He needs a little of Lowell's passion for UND FB.

[Mama Sue]

2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I never said this; where did you get that idea? I was simply pointing out that any implication that an FCS QB will ever get within sniffing distance of the Heisman is utter foolishness. If Steve McNair couldn't win it after being on the cover of SI, then it is highly unlikely to ever happen.

My main beef is with UND's rudderless administration sitting on it's rear end for 10 years now, being content with the occasional conference title and not doing enough to invest in the athletic department so we can land kids like this. And if you have been reading my posts on this thread, you would know that.

Administration is more at the crossroads than the coaching staff, IMHO..... we need facilities, scholarships, and salaries for coaches.

Look at that non-public money in the Fargodome.... sponsorship after sponsorship.

The last game there (?year).... they were giving away free pizza coupons taped under the seats. JuiceU has progressed from that, for sure. Someone needs to start the infrastructure for us.....

They do need new turf... it is worn..... otherwise the technology, signs, and announcing all point to money from the community.

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

15 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

Administration is more at the crossroads than the coaching staff, IMHO..... we need facilities, scholarships, and salaries for coaches.

Look at that non-public money in the Fargodome.... sponsorship after sponsorship.

The last game there (?year).... they were giving away free pizza coupons taped under the seats. JuiceU has progressed from that, for sure. Someone needs to start the infrastructure for us.....

They do need new turf... it is worn..... otherwise the technology, signs, and announcing all point to money from the community.

UND has some stuff to get sorted.  I posted in another thread about radio- UND can't even their games (football and hockey) on a radio station in Minot, the state's 4th largest city.  

[The Sicatoka]

6 minutes ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said:

... UND can't even their games (football and hockey) on a radio station in Minot, the state's 4th largest city.  

Find a station that'll work.

https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/locate?city=Minot&state=ND&locid=85706&dx=1&sort=freq 

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said:

Find a station that'll work.

https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/locate?city=Minot&state=ND&locid=85706&dx=1&sort=freq 

Oh I did.  The combine radio was just able to pull one in.  Disappointing state of affairs though. 

[tjbison]

28 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

They do need new turf... it is worn..... otherwise the technology, signs, and announcing all point to money from the community.

Umm...it was brand new in 2012, I belive it is exactly the same age as the Alerus Centers

 

Granted it has had a lot of games played on it between NDSU and HS, it's far from worn out

[UND1983]

2 minutes ago, tjbison said:

Umm...it was brand new in 2012, I belive it is exactly the same age as the Alerus Centers

 

Granted it has had a lot of games played on it between NDSU and HS, it's far from worn out

2012??  Dude, that's OLD in turf years.  

[the green team]

7 minutes ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said:

Oh I did.  The combine radio was just able to pull one in.  Disappointing state of affairs though. 

Why is this a UND issue and not a Minot radio/community issue?  From my understanding... the stations in Minot all have and had and continue to have an opportunity to take UND Sports, they are apparently choosing not to.  That's a programming decision or a belief that local businesses in the community won't spend money for the local commercial breaks they are given to sell within a broadcast to build revenue from those broadcasts.  A couple of my companies have used UND radio not only the network- which is sold out of GF, but we've also bought time on a few of the various local stations that carry the games in various markets that we do business in, because they have inventory in every broadcast too, and that's how the local station like a Devils Lake etc...can make some dollars on it.  If people call the stations and say they want UND Football or Hockey, or even better-- potential sponsors go to them...enough requests stations would most likely consider it.  It's a dollar and business issue for the station/market. 

I've asked these very questions at sponsor parties I've attended...and get very forthright answers from those involved.  From my business perspective this really seems to be a Minot issue.  It sounds as if the  option has been and remains there if Minot stations want it.   You can't make a farmer plant a crop that he doesn't want to plant...just like you can't force a radio station to take something they don't want to take.  My only question is why isn't businesses in Minot with perhaps UND ties, coming up with the sponsorship dollars in a market like this? 

When I'm traveling in the east I tend to utilize the Eastern North Dakota stations, but I have turned to the app more to listen the further west I get.

[Siouxperfan7]

Alerus Center is getting new turf for the 2020 season.

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

1 minute ago, the green team said:

Why is this a UND issue and not a Minot radio/community issue?  From my understanding... the stations in Minot all have and had and continue to have an opportunity to take UND Sports, they are apparently choosing not to.  That's a programming decision or a belief that local businesses in the community won't spend money for the local commercial breaks they are given to sell within a broadcast to build revenue from those broadcasts.  A couple of my companies have used UND radio not only the network- which is sold out of GF, but we've also bought time on a few of the various local stations that carry the games in various markets that we do business in, because they have inventory in every broadcast too, and that's how the local station like a Devils Lake etc...can make some dollars on it.  If people call the stations and say they want UND Football or Hockey, or even better-- potential sponsors go to them...enough requests stations would most likely consider it.  It's a dollar and business issue for the station/market. 

I've asked these very questions at sponsor parties I've attended...and get very forthright answers from those involved.  From my business perspective this really seems to be a Minot issue.  It sounds as if the  option has been and remains there if Minot stations want it.   You can't make a farmer plant a crop that he doesn't want to plant...just like you can't force a radio station to take something they don't want to take.  My only question is why isn't businesses in Minot with perhaps UND ties, coming up with the sponsorship dollars in a market like this? 

When I'm traveling in the east I tend to utilize the Eastern North Dakota stations, but I have turned to the app more to listen the further west I get.

In my opinion, this is a two way street- UND has a marketable product and should work to sell it in the entire state.  The Minot area businesses are apparently not supporting UND because there is no market for UND's product there.  UND should develop that market and create demand for their product.  NDSU has quite a few more radio stations as well as a statewide television deal that is better.  NDSU has completely surpassed UND in marketing, product quality, and consequently, money and support. 

As a result, as Mama Sue notes a few posts above, NDSU now has loads of local and regional sponsorship that UND doesn't have. 

UND has to create a product and market it so that it is attractive to everyone in the state and consequently businesses will support it.  

[tjbison]

28 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

2012??  Dude, that's OLD in turf years.  

I agree, but it's also not worn out like originally stated

[the green team]

11 minutes ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said:

In my opinion, this is a two way street- UND has a marketable product and should work to sell it in the entire state.  The Minot area businesses are apparently not supporting UND because there is no market for UND's product there.  UND should develop that market and create demand for their product.  NDSU has quite a few more radio stations as well as a statewide television deal that is better.  NDSU has completely surpassed UND in marketing, product quality, and consequently, money and support. 

As a result, as Mama Sue notes a few posts above, NDSU now has loads of local and regional sponsorship that UND doesn't have. 

UND has to create a product and market it so that it is attractive to everyone in the state and consequently businesses will support it.  

I agree that there has to be a product and they have to market it.  So you your saying "the product" is the "team", and the team had better win games...because that is the thing that is marketing NDSU's product.  Everyone wants to be attached to a winner.  That's easy marketing.  When my businesses are winning, everything is easy.  That's what it boils down to me.  If UND had just won 9 championships in a row...everybody is going to want to attached or associated with it... the marketing takes care of itself.

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

2 minutes ago, the green team said:

I agree that there has to be a product and they have to market it.  So you your saying "the product" is the "team", and the team had better win games...because that is the thing that is marketing NDSU's product.  Everyone wants to be attached to a winner.  That's easy marketing.  When my businesses are winning, everything is easy.  That's what it boils down to me.  If UND had just won 9 championships in a row...everybody is going to want to attached or associated with it... the marketing takes care of itself.

Just for the sake of it, I will point out that UND has relatively recently won a national championship (hockey).  

[The Sicatoka]

4 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

That block on Lenny was dirty in my opinion but not called. 

An illegal blindside block and corresponding bench penalty, OK, warning, was issued to NDSU on the same play in the second half.

Who took the brunt of that illegal* hit and what's their status? I'm asking for a friend named Zach Arnell ... 

 

*It was penalized, and thus, by definition, illegal. 

[The Sicatoka]

45 minutes ago, tjbison said:

I agree, but it's also not worn out like originally stated

No, but it's staring end-of-life in the face. 

[Siouxperfan7]

All I can say is thank God we have only played the Bison twice these last 10 years because I guarantee NDSU would be on a 10 game win streak against UND instead of just 2!!

[Mama Sue]

10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

No, but it's staring end-of-life in the face. 

I said worn, not worn out... it was dull, looked bleached out, and in sharp contrast to the rest of the building, needs replacement IMHO. Worn out means he’s and patches and stains....

[Hammersmith]

35 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

No, but it's staring end-of-life in the face. 

I'm not too awful worried; I strongly suspect it will be replaced next year or the year after. NDSU's football IPF will be built next summer or the summer after and that means two new turf fields to buy(one inside, one outside). If I were NDSU and the Fargodome, I'd see if I could get a small discount for three turfs since all would be identical and the installation crew would already be here. Heck, maybe even the Alerus could join in so the crew could install four turfs before heading back.

[Dustin]

36 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

All I can say is thank God we have only played the Bison twice these last 10 years because I guarantee NDSU would be on a 10 game win streak against UND instead of just 2!!

True, but we may have not let it get to this point, either, if we had actually gotten to play them and lose a few times.  There's only so many of those that UND people will stand for.  Right now, if it's the end of the 2021 game in Grand Forks and we still haven't beaten them, heads are gonna roll.

[The Sicatoka]

3 minutes ago, Hammersmith said:

I'm not too awful worried; I strongly suspect it will be replaced next year or the year after. NDSU's football IPF will be built next summer or the summer after and that means two new turf fields to buy(one inside, one outside). If I were NDSU and the Fargodome, I'd see if I could get a small discount for three turfs since all would be identical and the installation crew would already be here. Heck, maybe even the Alerus could join in so the crew could install four turfs before heading back.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Alerus getting turf in summer 2020 isn't already tied in before those. Alerus seems the only sure date (as you say next summer or the following). 

And if there's "regional volume discount" shouldn't all have jumped aboard West Fargo (Packers and Mustangs) installing turf summer 2019?  

[Dustin]

I thought about this Saturday night, and have been watching the board to see if anyone else would mention it (and they haven't unless I missed it), but....Would the offense have been better, worse, or about the same if Ketteringham had played instead of Zimmerman?  

[UND1983]

The bid was already advertised for UND's turf.  

[UNDBIZ]

Just now, Dustin said:

I thought about this Saturday night, and have been watching the board to see if anyone else would mention it (and they haven't unless I missed it), but....Would the offense have been better, worse, or about the same if Ketteringham had played instead of Zimmerman?  

I'd say worse.  Passes more telegraphed, happy feet, and resistance to taking shots downfield all working against Kett.

[Siouxperfan7]

4 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I thought about this Saturday night, and have been watching the board to see if anyone else would mention it (and they haven't unless I missed it), but....Would the offense have been better, worse, or about the same if Ketteringham had played instead of Zimmerman?  

I think there probably would have been a few more deep balls attempted, especially the 4th quarter.  But I don't think it would have mattered all that much against the Bison defense.  

[iramurphy]

6 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

I think so. Sure get the hogs lean but they have to been at or above 300lbs if we want to have any push or anchor.

Not necessarily. You might be surprised at how many nfl players are listed at heights and weights that list and them bigger than what they are. If you are 290, quick, with great feet and smart I will take that before a slow footed 320lb guy that looks good on paper,  but that’s just me. If the choice is 6’ 6” 325lbs fast with quick obviously that’s even better.