Kennedy vs donors... again?

[Herd]

8 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

Well someone is ticked, obviously! Oh to have so much wealth to be able to say that!! Sounds like this has been brewing since last year. Time will tell.

Engelstad family member was not calling for firing, when first asked, but then said yes when pressed.  Clearly states that they are not going to do business with Kennedy.

[UND-FB-FAN]

57 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

Engelstad family says they’ll withhold donations to UND, calls for President Kennedy to be fired

Is this something new or has Kennedy always had friction with the Engelstads?

 

https://www.inforum.com/entertainment/podcasts/979524-Engelstad-family-says-they’ll-withhold-donations-to-UND-calls-for-President-Kennedy-to-be-fired

I suggest you do some research. There’s this fancy new thing called “Google”.

[Nodak78]

7 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

Going to the UND forum seemed like a logical starting place to "research" it.

I suggest you stfu if you have nothing to contribute.

More than a slow hand

[Siouxphan27]

7 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

Going to the UND forum seemed like a logical starting place to "research" it.

I suggest you stfu if you have nothing to contribute.

Geez...are the fans down south also on the mystery steroids?   You seem a bit irritable. 

[Goon]

12 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

What did Kennedy do to cause this big of a uproar?

In his short time at UND, Kennedy has pissed off the donor class that UND needs to survive. The Engelstad's aren't the only ones that are upset with Kennedy. 

 

[The Sicatoka]

17 hours ago, bincitysioux said:

... his background as a conservative politician, his business experience,  the fact that he was NOT a lifelong "academic", ... 

The media is not liking an outsider businessman in a powerful role they think they should have sway over.

Shocked. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, SlowHand said:

Engelstad family says they’ll withhold donations to UND, calls for President Kennedy to be fired

Is this something new or has Kennedy always had friction with the Engelstads?

 

https://www.inforum.com/entertainment/podcasts/979524-Engelstad-family-says-they’ll-withhold-donations-to-UND-calls-for-President-Kennedy-to-be-fired

So in other words, KEM has promised to withhold something that wasn't in the cards in the first place?

Wow, what a loss for UND! (sarcasm)  #cantmakeitup

[SiouxVolley]

36 minutes ago, Goon said:

In his short time at UND, Kennedy has pissed off the donor class that UND needs to survive. The Engelstad's aren't the only ones that are upset with Kennedy. 

 

Maybe we can get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to replace Kennedy.  She would confiscate all the wealth of the Engelstads anyway as a politician.

[The Sicatoka]

What most bothers me is McGarry is arm-twisting both UNLV and UND. 

She must be pretty good to think she should be picking presidents everywhere she looks. 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

Maybe we can get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to replace Kennedy.  She would confiscate all the wealth of the Engelstads anyway as a politician.

Is everything political to you? Read the board guidelines again, please.

[The Sicatoka]

What also bothers me?

Gifts with strings. 

Why'd the word extortion just jump to mind. 

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, The Sicatoka said:

What most bothers me is McGarry is arm-twisting both UNLV and UND. 

She must be pretty good to think she should be picking presidents everywhere she looks. 

This is why she isn't worth all the trouble.

We need a forensic accountant to look into the finances of the REA Complex to figure out where all the money goes each year. And I don't want to hear that "It's none of our business" either. All the organizations that help govern the REA Complex are non-profit organizations; thus, their tax filings are public records and cannot be hidden from view. And the REA Complex exists to serve UND's interests, not the other way around.

It is time UND receives the full benefit of this complex. Not some spoiled heiress in Las Vegas.

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

What also bothers me?

Gifts with strings. 

Why'd the word extortion just jump to mind. 

I have said this before: A gift with strings attached is not a gift, it is extortion.

A relationship based almost entirely on butt-kissing and extortion is not healthy for anyone (either an individual or an organization).

[Goon]

19 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

Maybe we can get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to replace Kennedy.  She would confiscate all the wealth of the Engelstads anyway as a politician.

That's just silly talk. 

 

17 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Is everything political to you? Read the board guidelines again, please.

Come on, don't be such a snowflake. 

[MrEdway]

9 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I have said this before: A gift with strings attached is not a gift, it is extortion.

A relationship based almost entirely on butt-kissing and extortion is not healthy for anyone (either an individual or an organization).

You don't have to kiss anyone's butt, but you don't have to be a complete asshat either. And I've seen nothing from Kennedy over the years to indicate he is nothing but a self centered asshat.

[SWSiouxMN]

So in other words: expect the cold war to continue for at least another year and a half.

 

[Old Fella]

19 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

It needed to be cut and if it wasn’t Kennedy, it was going to be someone else. The SBOHE knew this was going to happen and placed a big pile of “sh!t” in front of him.

Would have been nice if he removed the pile, instead he added to it.

[SiouxVolley]

58 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Is everything political to you? Read the board guidelines again, please.

No.  You have it backwards.  Everything should be seen from a divine spiritual lens.  Most politics is intended to impose their own devilish selfish views that are opposite a divine view. 

[iramurphy]

The contract between UND and REA is what we must abide by.  It is reasonable to approach the appropriate powers and attempt tp renegotiate. It does no one any good to get in a pissing match with alumni nor with donors.  If the answer is no, shake hands, thanks them for their support and have a beverage or dinner to see if there are opportunities for your donors to consider in the future. Remind them you wouldn't be doing your job if you don't at least discuss the possibility of improving the University's position. Obviously we are dealing with two large egos. One holds the purse strings to a substantial opportunity.  A better approach may have been to invite McGary to participate in strategic planning and present opportunities to not only the Englestad Foundation, but other major donors. 

[iramurphy]

There is going to be a major announcement this Thursday at the Ag School.  Rumored to be possibly their largest donation in history. I have been invited to attend.  I will likely find something else to do. I suspect it will be open to public. It will be at Barry Hall.  

[UNDBIZ]

From the forum guidelines: 

No politics or religion

- moderators

[SooToo]

39 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

There is going to be a major announcement this Thursday at the Ag School.  Rumored to be possibly their largest donation in history. I have been invited to attend.  I will likely find something else to do. I suspect it will be open to public. It will be at Barry Hall.  

Statue of Denny going up at the front gate?

[Oxbow6]

3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

What also bothers me?

Gifts with strings. 

Why'd the word extortion just jump to mind. 

But what about our "fixer" now in charge at UND? You can't tell me hasn't dealt what you are describing above prior to coming to UND. He's been a politician!

[Siouxphan27]

1 hour ago, SooToo said:

Statue of Denny going up at the front gate?

No, I heard it's going to be a statue of their steroid god, Ben Newman.  

[Rebel_Sioux]

On 3/1/2019 at 5:55 PM, cberkas said:

Let’s just say that “IF” women’s hockey didn’t get cut, would we be having this discussion. 

 

On 3/1/2019 at 7:12 PM, siouxkid12 said:

It needed to be cut and if it wasn’t Kennedy, it was going to be someone else. The SBOHE knew this was going to happen and placed a big pile of “sh!t” in front of him.

 

21 hours ago, Hockeygirl97 said:

Let ME pick the $#&&&!!! next president . . . I'm sure I'd agree w/ her. . . The Betty wasn't supposed to be free. .. .there were agreements to pay for it. . . Kennedy is a moron, as shown by his parade of coaches begging for their programs.  (People seem to be forgetting that fiasco. . ) Dance w/ who brung ya. . . not some politician from Minnesota. . . Yeah, let's piss off the 100 million dollar player in the room and see how long it takes the Ralph and the Betty to rot under the North Dakota state budget. GOOD PLAN.  Let's go w/ that. . .. 

@Hockeygirl97 nailed it. It's really not just that he cut women's hockey and S&D. It's that he paraded every coach out (except a handful of protected sports, which originally included WH) and said he'd only cut sports once in his admin. Then he said, jk sorry for all the drama. And then he quietly changed his mind and cut sports anyways (including WH, which was previously protected). And while they weren't pulling in tons of money, the sports he cut are more popular than many sports he left behind (track, soccer, tennis etc). Not to mention the school still has the pool to keep up. Obviously he inherited a mess from Kelley/Schafer and made a tough choice and he did so again when we switched to the Summit (which frankly Kelley should have done in the first place). So kudos for that part but beyond that I can't think of a worse way to have handled the AD budget cuts than he did.