Blackheart Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 This thread reminds me of something... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Getting back on topic, the real issue is not whether fans are for or against the Fighting Hawks name and logo. The issue is that Ralph Engelstad Arena and the Betty Engelstad Sioux Center were built for the University of North Dakota. And they should be doing everything they can to help them along the way. And that includes helping the University with their name/logo re branding efforts. REA Inc/Engelstad Foundation aren't doing that. And that is a big problem and that was the true intention of the gift. Good Lord, They them then they there they them than, who??? What does a proper sentence look like in your world? You need to realize that "your personal interpretation" of what you think the agreement says, is not a quality rock to build an argument or opinion on. You have built in assumptions that pervert your view of the subject and are incapable of understanding the actual fact that those involved obviously donot share your perverted interpretation of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 47 minutes ago, Blackheart said: This thread reminds me of something... Good ol' DaveK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, cberkas said: Good ol' DaveK. Nailed it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Good Lord, They them then they there they them than, who??? What does a proper sentence look like in your world? You need to realize that "your personal interpretation" of what you think the agreement says, is not a quality rock to build an argument or opinion on. You have built in assumptions that pervert your view of the subject and are incapable of understanding the actual fact that those involved obviously donot share your perverted interpretation of. OK, so what is your "interpretation" of the purpose of the REA and the Betty? What was the reason they were built. (By the way, ripping on someones grammar in a post might be the lamest thing ever). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 14 hours ago, WiSioux said: UND doesn't need to add a secondary logo, they need to add a primary logo and make the current logo secondary. You are half right; need to have a new logo. Trash the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 8:50 PM, Oxbow6 said: I think I cracked the code! The Sicatoka is really.................... So, Oxbow, I'm really "Agent J" of the MIB ... forget me not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snova4 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 8:48 PM, darell1976 said: http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3768806-staking-claim-name-und-nickname-options-include-local-high-school-mascot How about this one? I could have got behind the logo on the left. The Burlington/Post Office logo doesn't do anything for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 6 hours ago, snova4 said: I could have got behind the logo on the left. The Burlington/Post Office logo doesn't do anything for me. A bird skull with green feet and pigeon like markings? That looks less like a hawk than our current logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Here is one time I thought a hawk looked pretty cool, at least I think it is a hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snova4 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: A bird skull with green feet and pigeon like markings? That looks less like a hawk than our current logo. Well, to be fair, it's looks just as much like a hawk as the current abomination, but you can disagree. It's your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, snova4 said: Well, to be fair, it's looks just as much like a hawk as the current abomination, but you can disagree. It's your opinion. It’s not an opinion if it literally follows the phenotype for a Hawk while the one you mentioned does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snova4 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: It’s not an opinion if it literally follows the phenotype for a Hawk while the one you mentioned does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 So now Kennedy is going Vegas to meet KEM. He might as well go to the Staley Cup Finals game and get an idea on a new scoreboard and ice projection system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, cberkas said: So now Kennedy is going Vegas to meet KEM. He might as well go to the Staley Cup Finals game and get an idea on a new scoreboard and ice projection system. Might be a better use of his time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 8 hours ago, cberkas said: So now Kennedy is going Vegas to meet KEM. He might as well go to the Staley Cup Finals game and get an idea on a new scoreboard and ice projection system. And then again, he will find out the hard way, that he doesn't run The Ralph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: And then again, he will find out the hard way, that he doesn't run The Ralph. And the Ralph needs to set the standard, I can think of 3 B1G schools that have more modern scoreboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, cberkas said: And the Ralph needs to set the standard, I can think of 3 B1G schools that have more modern scoreboards. Agree, The Ralph needs to set the standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: And then again, he will find out the hard way, that he doesn't run The Ralph. And KEM needs to understand that she does not run UND because she is an only child of a multimillionaire. I think Kennedy will convey that message (more diplomatically than I just did, of course). And KEM will likely run to the media whining about how she wasn't bowed down to by Kennedy (again). REA and BESC were built for the sole purpose of benefiting UND in general and UND Athletics in particular. That was Ralph's vision when he decided to put $100+ million into it. They do not exist to fatten the wallet of KEM and her corporate associates. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, cberkas said: And the Ralph needs to set the standard, I can think of 3 B1G schools that have more modern scoreboards. Replacing the scoreboard would result in the loss of a precious though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobIwabuchiFan Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: And KEM needs to understand that she does not run UND because she is an only child of a multimillionaire. I think Kennedy will convey that message (more diplomatically than I just did, of course). And KEM will likely run to the media whining about how she wasn't bowed down to by Kennedy (again). REA and BESC were built for the sole purpose of benefiting UND in general and UND Athletics in particular. That was Ralph's vision when he decided to put $100+ million into it. They do not exist to fatten the wallet of KEM and her corporate associates. Is there some documents showing she and her corporate associates are making money off of this arrangement? Asking for a friend... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, BobIwabuchiFan said: Is there some documents showing she and her corporate associates are making money off of this arrangement? Asking for a friend... Again, I've linked to the Form 990s for the related entities --> PREGO! It's in there. As I recall, the only folks drawing compensation are folks that should be (i.e. the general manager and the accountant/CFO of the arena). Form 990 for 2017 for REA-related organizations ....UND Arena Services EIN: 14-1846178 UND Sports Facilities EIN: 36-4511153 Ralph Engelstad Arene EIN: 11-3666663 See Part VII of the form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, BobIwabuchiFan said: Is there some documents showing she and her corporate associates are making money off of this arrangement? Asking for a friend... Her making money is not the issue. The REA expensing anything they choose to is the issue. There are no checks and balances as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Her making money is not the issue. The REA expensing anything they choose to is the issue. There are no checks and balances as far as I can tell. So it's no different than budgetary issues at a vast majority of universities/colleges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So it's no different than budgetary issues at a vast majority of universities/colleges? Well minus UND having to make huge cuts under state orders while the a member of the REA board throws a fit when they are asked to do the same by renegotiating an annually renewable contract.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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