The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Yes, BIZ, you recognized sounding like a captain: Rhett Gardner on returning for his senior season: "This year left a sour taste. I want to get everything back to where it was when I came here as a freshman." No "hopefully". No "we'd like". A simple "I want." See problem. Define problem. Define solution. Work to it. Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Rhett Gardner on returning for his senior season: "This year left a sour taste. I want to get everything back to where it was when I came here as a freshman." 2 Quote
iramurphy Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Yes, BIZ, you recognized sounding like a captain: Rhett Gardner on returning for his senior season: "This year left a sour taste. I want to get everything back to where it was when I came here as a freshman." No "hopefully". No "we'd like". A simple "I want." See problem. Define problem. Define solution. Work to it. I think Poolman's play speaks louder and better than his comment about "hopefully". I believe Gardner and Poolman will make excellent team leaders regardless of who wears the A or the C. The best leaders keep most of what they say behind closed doors addressed to their team/family. We may want to be part of the inside circle and we get bits and pieces but the fact of the matter is we don't really know based on what we hear from friends or what we read or hear from the media. I might be wrong but I think these guys will wear the C/A and both are excellent choices. 1 2 Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, iramurphy said: I think Poolman's play speaks louder and better than his comment about "hopefully". I believe Gardner and Poolman will make excellent team leaders regardless of who wears the A or the C. The best leaders keep most of what they say behind closed doors addressed to their team/family. We may want to be part of the inside circle and we get bits and pieces but the fact of the matter is we don't really know based on what we hear from friends or what we read or hear from the media. I might be wrong but I think these guys will wear the C/A and both are excellent choices. Agree. Quote
tnt Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, iramurphy said: I think Poolman's play speaks louder and better than his comment about "hopefully". I believe Gardner and Poolman will make excellent team leaders regardless of who wears the A or the C. The best leaders keep most of what they say behind closed doors addressed to their team/family. We may want to be part of the inside circle and we get bits and pieces but the fact of the matter is we don't really know based on what we hear from friends or what we read or hear from the media. I might be wrong but I think these guys will wear the C/A and both are excellent choices. I agree, actions speak louder than words. How many times have you heard blowhards spout off empty guarantees that don't even come close coming to fruition. When we start parsing people's words to detect any little detail to catch them on, I think we are overthinking things. Quote
petey23 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Ray77 said: I'd have to refresh my memory, but I think it was to Parise's benefit to get to the NHL before the lockout, knowing that a lockout was coming. I think this way he could sign a larger rookie deal as the rules on that were about to change. Something along those lines... I actually think if there wasn't a lockout coming that year, he may have stayed. Yes this is correct. He was able to sign before the lockout(not a strike) and have his first year of contract counted. According to those in the know, he regretted his decision after the fact even though financially it was the best move for him. Quote
UNDColorado Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 I would be pleased with either Rhett or Colton wearing the C. I dont see a downside with either of them. Jones needs an A as well. Quote
UND1981 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Who is likely to leave for teams still playing from the NCHC? Perunovich, Tufte, R Poeling, Schuldt, Achan, Borgen, Gambrell, Terry, Borgstrom, Hillman, Hammond? Quote
ChadR Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, UND1981 said: Who is likely to leave for teams still playing from the NCHC? Perunovich, Tufte, R Poeling, Schuldt, Achan, Borgen, Gambrell, Terry, Borgstrom, Hillman, Hammond? I would guess Schuldt, Borgen, Gambrell, Terry, Borgstrom. Never know with Poehling being drafted by the Canadiens. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 There is much early departure bleeding yet to come. The team buses going to the NCAAs will not be as full returning is my guess. 1 Quote
tnt Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, ChadR said: I would guess Schuldt, Borgen, Gambrell, Terry, Borgstrom. Never know with Poehling being drafted by the Canadiens. Would think if Poehling 's brothers weren't at St. Cloud he would be gone, but you never know if he will stay to play with them another year. A lot could depend on how they do in the National tournament. If they don't win it, St. Cloud's flight risks might form a pact to stay. Quote
UND1981 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, UND1981 said: Who is likely to leave for teams still playing from the NCHC? Perunovich, Tufte, R Poeling, Schuldt, Achan, Borgen, Gambrell, Terry, Borgstrom, Hillman, Hammond? I'm disappointed. I was looking for the "Bruce Almighty" answer. Yes to all!! Quote
franchise Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, UND1981 said: I'm disappointed. I was looking for the "Bruce Almighty" answer. Yes to all!! Haha...my first thought was, they can all go Quote
ChadR Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, tnt said: Would think if Poehling 's brothers weren't at St. Cloud he would be gone, but you never know if he will stay to play with them another year. A lot could depend on how they do in the National tournament. If they don't win it, St. Cloud's flight risks might form a pact to stay. Agreed - he's also a 'true' freshman this year even though he is a sophomore. He accelerated his SR year of HS. Quote
AJS Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Reading how many early departures UND has had over the past 3 years and how that compares to other teams was pretty shocking. You can't put enough emphasis on keeping that number down. I'll be closely watching SCSU and UMD, only because I believe it's a lock that Denver loses Borgstrom, Gambrell and Terry. Would be nice for teams outside of the NCHC to really get hit this year. Minnesota is one I'll watch closely too, they only lost 1 last season in which they were a #1 seed. Quote
tnt Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, AJS said: Reading how many early departures UND has had over the past 3 years and how that compares to other teams was pretty shocking. You can't put enough emphasis on keeping that number down. I'll be closely watching SCSU and UMD, only because I believe it's a lock that Denver loses Borgstrom, Gambrell and Terry. Would be nice for teams outside of the NCHC to really get hit this year. Minnesota is one I'll watch closely too, they only lost 1 last season in which they were a #1 seed. Lingren is already gone. Would there be other threats outside of Mittelstadt and Novak? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 If Mittelstadt was more than a wisp of a human being he'd be gone already. You have to wonder how tDon's departure is affecting his thoughts. Quote
AJS Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, tnt said: Lingren is already gone. Would there be other threats outside of Mittelstadt and Novak? Sheehy was an All-American after his Sophomore year, but his production fell off last year. It doesn't feel like they'll lose anyone else, besides Lindgren. For the Top programs, you'll see some get hit harder than others each year, it's all a cycle, this current one though is getting pretty frustrating. I know it's not the case, but it seems like UND (& BC / BU) are the only teams consistently getting hit year after year with early departures. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: If Mittelstadt was more than a wisp of a human being he'd be gone already. You have to wonder how tDon's departure is affecting his thoughts. I'd be shocked if he played at Minnesota next year. Quote
runaroundsioux Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Just to get this straight. After complaining all season about UND not having enough high end draft picks, we are now complaining about early departures? Can't have one without the other. 1 3 Quote
90siouxfan Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 I agree runaroundsioux, and would like to add that the "recipe" for a natty does not always include blu chippas. Although if scoring by committee comes up short it is easy to point at the missing piece.. Quote
AJS Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, runaroundsioux said: Just to get this straight. After complaining all season about UND not having enough high end draft picks, we are now complaining about early departures? Can't have one without the other. First, that's absolutely not true. My frustration is lately (see past 3 years), is the wide discrepancy between players leaving early between UND and its peers. Frustration is probably the wrong word, it's more jealousy, other teams for whatever reason haven't had to experience it to even close to the same level as UND on as consistent of a basis. I'm not saying UND should change their recruiting at all, it'd just be nice to have one year (see Duluth 2 years ago, SCSU, Denver, Minnesota last year), where everything breaks your way in the early departure front. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, AJS said: First, that's absolutely not true. My frustration is lately (see past 3 years), is the wide discrepancy between players leaving early between UND and its peers. Frustration is probably the wrong word, it's more jealousy, other teams for whatever reason haven't had to experience it to even close to the same level as UND on as consistent of a basis. I'm not saying UND should change their recruiting at all, it'd just be nice to have one year (see Duluth 2 years ago, SCSU, Denver, Minnesota last year), where everything breaks your way in the early departure front. And losing low round draft picks and undrafted players early seems to be hitting UND harder than other teams lately. Problems of success to some extent, but hopefully it rights itself soon (since success has been more muted the last 2 years). Wolanin (JR - 4th), Gersich (JR - 5th), T Poolman (JR - 5th), Stecher (JR - UFA), Thompson (JR - 3rd), Ladue (JR - 6th), L Johnson (JR - 5th) - Many of these are guys who were likely expected to be here 4 years when they were brought in. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Anyone getting their hopes up that no news today is good news regarding Gersich? Quote
Emerald joker Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Anyone getting their hopes up that no news today is good news regarding Gersich? He already signed Quote
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