UND to cut women's hockey

[cberkas]

7 hours ago, southpaw said:

I think if UND had a better coach, they could have had more success which would have saved the program.  There was definitely talent but they never seemed to put it all together.

Agree 100% with this.

They had the chance to get a coach the went to Duluth and Ohio State.

[Siouxphan27]

How on earth did Wisconsin win it all with no Euro olympians on the roster?  Amazing!

[The Sicatoka]

On 3/24/2019 at 6:47 AM, CMSioux said:

They will find a way to write a "where are they now" story on "the girl who flew into Grand Forks on the day the program was cut".

Don't give them ideas. 

[cberkas]

4 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:

How on earth did Wisconsin win it all with no Euro olympians on the roster?  Amazing!

And UND's former goalie.

[Blackheart]

Wow!  Another article on a former UND women's player...I think B-Rad has now written more articles on the women's team since they disbanded than when they were actually playing.

[UNDColorado]

Soon all of the former players will have graduated so Brad will run out of topics to whine about. Not once did I hear him talk about how much of a financial burden that program was. I'm not against Women's hockey, but rather how much it costed.

[UNDBIZ]

6 hours ago, Blackheart said:

Wow!  Another article on a former UND women's player...I think B-Rad has now written more articles on the women's team since they disbanded than when they were actually playing.

Schlossman's halloween costume..... that he wears around the office daily.

[petey23]

20 hours ago, southpaw said:

I think if UND had a better coach, they could have had more success which would have saved the program.  There was definitely talent but they never seemed to put it all together.

I don't think  UND's Women's Hockey being successful on the ice would have ever made the financial reality work out. It would have just been a bigger story if UND cut a successful program that was hemorrhaging money vs. cutting a middling program that was hemorrhaging money.

[UND1983]

Regarding Schlossman, I always found it interesting that his father would tweet out intricate details about UND Football financial numbers before and after the WH program got cut.  How would one get those overall loss numbers, I wonder?  hmmm.  

It was fairly obvious to me to that the playbook was to pit WH vs FB when talking financials, as several others on social media used the same strategy.  Therefore, I am assuming Brad was on the WH side of things and is not a fan of the football program, other than to cover them for his job (my opinion only).  

[UNDColorado]

40 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Regarding Schlossman, I always found it interesting that his father would tweet out intricate details about UND Football financial numbers before and after the WH program got cut.  How would one get those overall loss numbers, I wonder?  hmmm.  

It was fairly obvious to me to that the playbook was to pit WH vs FB when talking financials, as several others on social media used the same strategy.  Therefore, I am assuming Brad was on the WH side of things and is not a fan of the football program, other than to cover them for his job (my opinion only).  

Also, what financials do not show is the amount of donations that are taken in because of the football program. Personally I donate because of the football program. I am a big hockey fan but the reality is they do not need my help. 

[tnt]

It's funny how it is o.k. for the Grand Forks Herald and Forum Communications to cut programming and Monday papers and leave a gap in coverage to improve the bottom line, but when UND does the same with the albatross of Women's Hockey it is inherently evil.  Absolutely amazing that Schlossman pays more attention to the program now than when they were actually in existence.  Of course crusaders and hypocrisy seem to go hand in hand now.  

[Siouxperfan7]

Schloss is really trying to find anyway he can to bring up the fact UND dropped womens hockey. 

 

[Siouxperfan7]

I wonder where he holds his candlelight vigil on the the anniversary of the program being cut?  Maybe in front of the empty trophy case displaying all the Championships they one!!  Perhaps he lights 2 candles at his vigil.  One for each Lammy twin.  Or maybe the two candles are for the two NCAA tournament appearances UND played in the history of the program.  More fitting would be two candles representing the 2 million dollars it sucked from the athletic department every year.  

[UNDBIZ]

One thing to help with this issue, if you see a Schloss article on women's hockey, don't click on it.  Similar to a McFeely column, he knows he can get a lot of clicks just from people upset about him writing the garbage to begin with.

[ChrisUND1]

17 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

One thing to help with this issue, if you see a Schloss article on women's hockey, don't click on it.  Similar to a McFeely column, he knows he can get a lot of clicks just from people upset about him writing the garbage to begin with.

Same for Twitter, just let them sit, don't click!

[green_sioux]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

It's funny how it is o.k. for the Grand Forks Herald and Forum Communications to cut programming and Monday papers and leave a gap in coverage to improve the bottom line, but when UND does the same with the albatross of Women's Hockey it is inherently evil.  Absolutely amazing that Schlossman pays more attention to the program now than when they were actually in existence.  Of course crusaders and hypocrisy seem to go hand in hand now.  

Wow!  '"inherently evil"?    He said that?

Here is how I see it.  UND had a Women’s Ice Hockey program.   UND recruited players and commitments were made, both ways.    For a variety of reasons, the WIH program was dropped.   It wasn’t the players fault.   It wasn’t Schlossman’s fault.  

The WIH players were dedicated and passionate athletes in their time at UND.   No different than a football, basketball or MIH player on a UND roster.   Having the program cut in the way they did, was of course a rough experience for these UND athletes.  It left these college athletes in a state of limbo.   Most eventually caught on with other WIH college programs.   Some, including alumni, were outspoken about the elimination of the program.  I would expect that passion from athletes.  Some of that was reported on.   I would also expect that. 

A former player who caught on with another program and wins a national title as the MVP is news, whether you like it or not.  Mentioning the UND WIH program that existed only 2 years ago is also a fact.  Demonizing the GF Herald writer for mentioning these things is beyond childishly silly in my opinion.   He is reporting facts.  You can pretend UND never had a Women’s Ice Hockey program, but I prefer to remember those young ladies who proudly and passionately represented UND Athletics in their time here.  They proudly wore the name and colors of the University of North Dakota.   Mentioning that is fact.   Getting all bent out of shape for the GF Herald sports writer writing about the post-UND careers of gals who wore UND Green is just sad.   Come on Sioux-Hawk fans, you should be better than this.

[UND1983]

6 minutes ago, green_sioux said:

Wow!  '"inherently evil"?    He said that?

Here is how I see it.  UND had a Women’s Ice Hockey program.   UND recruited players and commitments were made, both ways.    For a variety of reasons, the WIH program was dropped.   It wasn’t the players fault.   It wasn’t Schlossman’s fault.  

The WIH players were dedicated and passionate athletes in their time at UND.   No different than a football, basketball or MIH player on a UND roster.   Having the program cut in the way they did, was of course a rough experience for these UND athletes.  It left these college athletes in a state of limbo.   Most eventually caught on with other WIH college programs.   Some, including alumni, were outspoken about the elimination of the program.  I would expect that passion from athletes.  Some of that was reported on.   I would also expect that. 

A former player who caught on with another program and wins a national title as the MVP is news, whether you like it or not.  Mentioning the UND WIH program that existed only 2 years ago is also a fact.  Demonizing the GF Herald writer for mentioning these things is beyond childishly silly in my opinion.   He is reporting facts.  You can pretend UND never had a Women’s Ice Hockey program, but I prefer to remember those young ladies who proudly and passionately represented UND Athletics in their time here.  They proudly wore the name and colors of the University of North Dakota.   Mentioning that is fact.   Getting all bent out of shape for the GF Herald sports writer writing about the post-UND careers of gals who wore UND Green is just sad.   Come on Sioux-Hawk fans, you should be better than this.

Lol..ok Brad.  Log off and go chase down the girl who was on the recruiting visit that fateful weekend.  

[jdub27]

30 minutes ago, green_sioux said:

Getting all bent out of shape for the GF Herald sports writer writing about the post-UND careers of gals who wore UND Green is just sad.  

Sure, but if even a small percentage of the people who pretend to be up in arms over the program being cut showed a little bit of interest while it was around, well, it just might still be around. That was the problem, there was very minimal support despite the amount of resources the program was given. The team itself didn't help by continuously tripping up year after year not to mention failing to win a single national tournament game or conference title, even when they had 2 of the best players in the world or a roster full of Olympians.

[SWSiouxMN]

So about the discrimination lawsuit.... anything come from that since it was announced in June?  I don't think we even heard the UND/NDUS response.

[cberkas]

7 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

So about the discrimination lawsuit.... anything come from that since it was announced in June?  I don't think we even heard the UND/NDUS response.

So far, no

[tnt]

1 hour ago, green_sioux said:

Wow!  '"inherently evil"?    He said that?

Here is how I see it.  UND had a Women’s Ice Hockey program.   UND recruited players and commitments were made, both ways.    For a variety of reasons, the WIH program was dropped.   It wasn’t the players fault.   It wasn’t Schlossman’s fault.  

The WIH players were dedicated and passionate athletes in their time at UND.   No different than a football, basketball or MIH player on a UND roster.   Having the program cut in the way they did, was of course a rough experience for these UND athletes.  It left these college athletes in a state of limbo.   Most eventually caught on with other WIH college programs.   Some, including alumni, were outspoken about the elimination of the program.  I would expect that passion from athletes.  Some of that was reported on.   I would also expect that. 

A former player who caught on with another program and wins a national title as the MVP is news, whether you like it or not.  Mentioning the UND WIH program that existed only 2 years ago is also a fact.  Demonizing the GF Herald writer for mentioning these things is beyond childishly silly in my opinion.   He is reporting facts.  You can pretend UND never had a Women’s Ice Hockey program, but I prefer to remember those young ladies who proudly and passionately represented UND Athletics in their time here.  They proudly wore the name and colors of the University of North Dakota.   Mentioning that is fact.   Getting all bent out of shape for the GF Herald sports writer writing about the post-UND careers of gals who wore UND Green is just sad.   Come on Sioux-Hawk fans, you should be better than this.

Don't hear much about baseball, golf, or women's swimming though and the fact that they weren't as big of a drain on the budget, I would think they would have a bigger axe to grind. 

[UNDBIZ]

2 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Schloss is really trying to find anyway he can to bring up the fact UND dropped womens hockey. 

 

Why are all the fans dressed as empty blue seats?

[UND1983]

7 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Why are all the fans dressed as empty blue seats?

I saw some other angles and there was pretty decent attendance by those views.

[SIOUXpucks]

2 hours ago, green_sioux said:

Wow!  '"inherently evil"?    He said that?

Here is how I see it.  UND had a Women’s Ice Hockey program.   UND recruited players and commitments were made, both ways.    For a variety of reasons, the WIH program was dropped.   It wasn’t the players fault.   It wasn’t Schlossman’s fault.  

The WIH players were dedicated and passionate athletes in their time at UND.   No different than a football, basketball or MIH player on a UND roster.   Having the program cut in the way they did, was of course a rough experience for these UND athletes.  It left these college athletes in a state of limbo.   Most eventually caught on with other WIH college programs.   Some, including alumni, were outspoken about the elimination of the program.  I would expect that passion from athletes.  Some of that was reported on.   I would also expect that. 

A former player who caught on with another program and wins a national title as the MVP is news, whether you like it or not.  Mentioning the UND WIH program that existed only 2 years ago is also a fact.  Demonizing the GF Herald writer for mentioning these things is beyond childishly silly in my opinion.   He is reporting facts.  You can pretend UND never had a Women’s Ice Hockey program, but I prefer to remember those young ladies who proudly and passionately represented UND Athletics in their time here.  They proudly wore the name and colors of the University of North Dakota.   Mentioning that is fact.   Getting all bent out of shape for the GF Herald sports writer writing about the post-UND careers of gals who wore UND Green is just sad.   Come on Sioux-Hawk fans, you should be better than this.

Agreed.  Also, I thought the article did a solid job of touching on the backstory and not making too big of a deal about the drama surrounding it.  I was impressed by the quotes from Ms. Campbell, who spoke positively about her time at North Dakota instead of bringing up anything negative, which could have been pretty easy for her.

 

[UND1983]

3 minutes ago, SIOUXpucks said:

Agreed.  Also, I thought the article did a solid job of touching on the backstory and not making too big of a deal about the drama surrounding it.  I was impressed by the quotes from Ms. Campbell, who spoke positively about her time at North Dakota instead of bringing up anything negative, which could have been pretty easy for her.

 

He needed to touch on the backstory... AGAIN??  Is that 50-60 times now he has addressed the back story for everyone.....