The Sicatoka Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Is there anything wrong with having an far beyond a stretch goal, call it an audacious, pie in the sky, everything goes our way goal? No. But please declare it as such. Quote
UND1983 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I equate it to UND coming out and saying their goal in 10 years is to join the Big Ten for all sports. Cool, we got a goal. But it is so far out of reach it's unbelievable. The problem is the fan base will start to believe it. (Irony: UND would need to be AAU to join the Big Ten). Quote
Hayduke Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 A lofty goal. Kudos to the College of Home Economics for trying to get out of the Special Olympics category of higher education. Don't stop believing.....cue guitar solo.... Quote
Cratter Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Fargo (/NDSU) has such a good propaganda machine going with their "free in every grocery store" magazines of Fargo Monthly (/Bison Illustrated).In this months magazine one of the articles title is: "Is Fargo's Economy the Most Diverse in the Country?" (Page 31)I'm sure Bison Illustrated is the same since they are both produced by Spotlight Media. But I have no reason to read it. Edited October 16, 2015 by Cratter 2 Quote
dakotadan Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 in the same way it's cool that the Bison rule FCS football and the Sioux rule NCAA hockey.It's a small state. We should all try to get along.Ugh, one of those people. 1 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I equate it to UND coming out and saying their goal in 10 years is to join the Big Ten for all sports. Cool, we got a goal. But it is so far out of reach it's unbelievable. The problem is the fan base will start to believe it. (Irony: UND would need to be AAU to join the Big Ten). Now how is that a problem? I doubt NDSU or UND would ever sniff the B1G or AAU obviously, but how is that a problem if the fans or alums believe it can be achieved? Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Ugh, one of those people. Aren't those people the worst? Quote
Herd Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I equate it to UND coming out and saying their goal in 10 years is to join the Big Ten for all sports. Cool, we got a goal. But it is so far out of reach it's unbelievable. The problem is the fan base will start to believe it. (Irony: UND would need to be AAU to join the Big Ten). Bresciani has a goal . . . that's all you really needed to say. That alone would be very confusing for the good people of SS. Edited October 19, 2015 by Herd Quote
darell1976 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Bresciani has a goal . . . that's all you really needed to say. That alone would be very confusing for the good people of SS.I thought people here know a lot about "goals". Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 From the Bismarck Tribune, U of Mary announces a $272 mill capital campaign. Must be all those rich Bakken widows putting Mary in their wills. Mary will be AAU before NDSU convinces the legislature to give them that kind on money.Mary to DI and the Slummit! 1 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 From the Bismarck Tribune, U of Mary announces a $272 mill capital campaign. Must be all those rich Bakken widows putting Mary in their wills. Mary will be AAU before NDSU convinces the legislature to give them that kind on money.Mary to DI and the Slummit!Good iidea the state could use a second solid basketball team. Quote
jdub27 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Bresciani has a goal . . . that's all you really needed to say. That alone would be very confusing for the good people of SS.Yeah, if only UND knew something about setting goals and then surpassing them... Quote
siouxforcefans Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Bresciani has a goal . . . that's all you really needed to say. That alone would be very confusing for the good people of SS.True, we aren't used to hearing that out of Fargo... Full Disclosure; I live in Fargo. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted December 1, 2015 Author Posted December 1, 2015 So, Byron Dorgan wants some accountability from Bresciani about closing their nanocenter, as in why NDSU didn't start an endowment like UND did for aerospace. Lot of comments how Bresciani is tone deaf and shouldn't have his contract renewed this year, especially from legislators. Get your popcorn ready. Quote
homer Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Here is the Dorgan's letter to the editor for those who may not have seen it. http://www.inforum.com/letters/3893311-letter-major-research-opportunity-lost-ndsu-north-dakota Quote
jdub27 Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 So is the understanding that NDSU struggles to get research dollars when they actually have to go after competitive grants instead relying on the non-competitive ones they get from being a land-grant? I guess they should probably give out more tuition waivers to grad students, that seems like it would solve the problem and boost enrollment all at once! 2 Quote
ScottM Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 I've never been a fan of Dorgan, but he does raise some good questions. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Sometimes, things just don't work out despite some awesome intentions and well thought planning. And it's hardly anybody's fault.Like all businesses (I'm thinking of you, Places to Eat in GF thread), technology enterprises come and go. Isn't the EERC, for example, notwithstanding its troubles of late, really more of an exception than the rule? And didn't Lesko, er, Dorgan hand out lots of government cash to a lot of different ventures over the years? Where's the accountability there? And there are no guarantees when the government invests money…you could build a $5M hangar or a $10M runway at the AFB, and still have the bombers pulled out the very next day.Leadership comes in different forms…prudence is knowing when to pull the plug or abandon ship (rather than merely throwing more money at the problem).Not taking a side on this one, but isn't there always more to the story? Quote
homer Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Sometimes, things just don't work out despite some awesome intentions and well thought planning. And it's hardly anybody's fault.Like all businesses (I'm thinking of you, Places to Eat in GF thread), technology enterprises come and go. Isn't the EERC, for example, notwithstanding its troubles of late, really more of an exception than the rule? And didn't Lesko, er, Dorgan hand out lots of government cash to a lot of different ventures over the years? Where's the accountability there? And there are no guarantees when the government invests money…you could build a $5M hangar or a $10M runway at the AFB, and still have the bombers pulled out the very next day.Leadership comes in different forms…prudence is knowing when to pull the plug or abandon ship (rather than merely throwing more money at the problem).Not taking a side on this one, but isn't there always more to the story?Than the other side of the story should be told. These are state institutions. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 We heard NDSU's side: "Meh, not a big deal."Dorgan's now asking for the other side. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted December 1, 2015 Author Posted December 1, 2015 The whole AAU thing becomes even more of a farce and ruse with the closing of the nanocenter. Bresciani was just attempting to make political cover for his decisions and his school's incompetence, as nanotechnology was one of the few ways NDSU could make a name for itself in the university research world. Quote
90siouxfan Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 But, but, but, we have a football team 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 https://sayanythingblog.com/entry/north-dakota-state-university-research-ranking-downgraded/ Quote North Dakota State University’s Research Ranking Downgraded In Preliminary Carnegie Release Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 You have to wonder if they didn't get hurt more than thought/claimed by the nano-center folding up. NDSU's much-heralded nano-research center folds Quote
SiouxVolley Posted January 20, 2016 Author Posted January 20, 2016 So now Bresciani has been jet setting off to Paris and India first class for two weeks, but the chancellor and SBOHE didn't even know he was out of state. Apparently recruiting more Indians for his 18000 student goal. 1 Quote
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