Hayduke Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Which one came 1st ? Good question. Did North Dakota take it from them? Or did they take it from us? That insignia was also used by a North Dakota combat unit in the US/Philippine war, which was part of the Spanish American war. That insignia was adopted by the state of North Dakota in 1911. It's purpose was to honor the North Dakota combat unit that used the same insignia as the Roughriders. I would imagine they took it from the Roughriders then the state took it from that North Dakota combat unit. Really, it doesn't matter. It is the same. Because, North Dakotans wanted it to be the same. Go Ridas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I think this is a great idea! There ya go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I dunno, those arrows the eagle is clutching are pretty offensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Which one came 1st ? The Roughrider unit formed in 1898. North Dakota adopted their flag in 1911. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The Roughrider unit formed in 1898. North Dakota adopted their flag in 1911. North Dakota adopted the flag from the 1st North Dakota Volunteer Infantry that fought in the Philippine American war in 1899. The Roughriders probably had the flag first, then the 1st ND Volunteer Infantry adopted the same insignia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There is also a TR roughrider statue in Mandan, North Dakota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Teddy Roosevelt was deputy sheriff in Morton County, North Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 North Dakota adopted the flag from the 1st North Dakota Volunteer Infantry that fought in the Philippine American war in 1899. The Roughriders probably had the flag first, then the 1st ND Volunteer Infantry adopted the same insignia. Correct. Just clarifying that North Dakota didn't officially adopt it until 1911. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Great idea! Oh, wait...I got the battle flag of the Roughriders confused with the North Dakota state flag here! My bad. Go Ridas! Great find Hayduke! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Teddy Roosevelt was deputy sheriff in Morton County, North Dakota Billings County wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Billings County wasn't it? From what I understand, it was Morton but the borders changed and some of it is now in Billings County, North Dakota. Which partly houses TR National Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Great idea! Oh, wait...I got the battle flag of the Roughriders confused with the North Dakota state flag here! My bad. Go Ridas! With all this controversy over flags lately, might be a bad idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 From what I understand, it was Morton but the borders changed and some of it is now in Billings County, North Dakota. Which partly houses TR National Park. that damn Edmund Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Great find Hayduke! +1 Credit Sicatoka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I just went to NDCC 54-02-02. http://history.nd.gov/state-flag.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 A good nickname/logo can bring a lot of $$ to the school, if marketed well. I think the consultants and the committee erred by including both Fighting Hawks and Green Hawks. Replacing the word Sioux with Hawks after the word Fighting is unimaginative. Almost as unimaginative as using the school color with Hawks. A lame weather phenomenon as a nickname/logo? Uh... No. Lame name and limited marketing potential. I just don't see am lot of $$$ coming to UND, marketing it as Nodaks or just North Dakota. With North Stars being a Minnesota thing, that leaves Roughriders. Of the seven remaining, I see it as the one with the most marketing potential and revenue generator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 But Sundogs also opens up the chance to have a live canine mascot, which would no doubt be a huge hit with kids Children are the most overlooked demographic there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 But Sundogs also opens up the chance to have a live canine mascot, which would no doubt be a huge hit with kids Children are the most overlooked demographic there is. OH, WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN! -Helen Lovejoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Roughrider mascots "for the children" are already built in: The regiment was presented with three different mascots that represented the Rough Riders: a mountain lion by the name of Josephine that was brought to Tampa by some troops from Arizona, a war eagle named in Colonel Roosevelt's honor brought in by some New Mexican troops, and lastly a small dog by the name of Cuba who had been brought along on the journey overseas. And then there's the "Captain Obvious" answer: wire-rimmed glasses and Stetson hat wearing ... TEDDY bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Oh gosh, can we do without the indignity of an actual mascot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Oh gosh, can we do without the indignity of an actual mascot?...and if we cant. For the love of god.... Please keep it off the ice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 "The regiment was presented with three different mascots that represented the Rough Riders: a mountain lion by the name of Josephine that was brought to Tampa by some troops from Arizona, a war eagle named in Colonel Roosevelt's honor brought in by some New Mexican troops, and lastly a small dog by the name of Cuba who had been brought along on the journey overseas." All those would be hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 ...and if we cant. For the love of god.... Please keep it off the ice! I agree, but an eagle or hawk would stay off naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 . Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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