burd Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said: How dominant was UND between 1983-1995? Almost as dominant as between '69 and '79. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Nah, I feel like UND is right there with them all right now, just need to play a little better at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 43 minutes ago, AJS said: Let's play the "what needs to happen" to the following teams, starting now. This is from a UND perspective to bring them down a bit. Denver: 1 more early signing Boston College: 2 more early signings Boston University: Celibrini to sign after he's drafted Michigan: 1 more early signing Michigan State: 2 early signings Ideally, we see more, but at a minimum, we need that to bring UND even starting next year. Important note. The final central scouting rankings were released and you had three NCAA players in the Top 4 for NA. I understand what you're saying & it makes a lot of sense, but that kind of mentality strikes me as not having much faith in UND; that the other team needs to be brought down a couple of pegs in order for the good guys to have a chance. It's not so much the physical talent of the other teams that concerns me, but Berry's philosophy & the mental strength/grittiness of our guys. If Berry can have his guys clicking on all cylinders come late March (which would be a minor miracle), then it doesn't matter much who's on the other team. That is Berry's biggest coaching challenge: to be Carle-esque when it matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 29 minutes ago, burd said: Almost as dominant as between '69 and '79. Rube Bjorkman on line one....thats Rube Bjorkman on line one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Thine giveth not one measure of merde what thoust other teams do. Tis neither mine to control nor fret. Control what is thoust's to control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, .357 said: I understand what you're saying & it makes a lot of sense, but that kind of mentality strikes me as not having much faith in UND; that the other team needs to be brought down a couple of pegs in order for the good guys to have a chance. It's not so much the physical talent of the other teams that concerns me, but Berry's philosophy & the mental strength/grittiness of our guys. If Berry can have his guys clicking on all cylinders come late March (which would be a minor miracle), then it doesn't matter much who's on the other team. That is Berry's biggest coaching challenge: to be Carle-esque when it matters. I think the point is that it would be difficult if we lose guys early, but other teams don't. But I agree with you; we have to have the mentality that we can beat anybody if we show up and play a full 60 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Lovell to Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 21 minutes ago, cberkas said: Lovell to Michigan That’s a nice get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxkid12 Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, siouxweet said: I would be shocked if Carle left. You are on top of the college hockey world and have job security plus sounds like DU is possibly going to give him a raise. Why would you be shocked? His raise will probably only go up to $400,000 a year (give or take a few) but in the NHL his salary would most definitely be in the seven figures. The ultimate goal for anyone involved with college hockey is to get to the show and at his age right now, he is in prime position to jump to the NHL. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: That’s a nice get Good get for sure. Was wondering when he’d get picked out. Michigan lost a lot already this off-season. Looking like a MSU/UMN race for their conf title at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJHovey Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I was reading Brad's article about the Central Scouting rankings, and the potential for a few of UND's future recruits to be drafted this year. Has anyone studied the issue to figure out whether college programs are being hurt in those situations? It's sort of like the Blake situation. He was drafted, then played a year of juniors, which meant that after his junior year of college he could become a free agent. That sucked, because normally you only expect first rounders, or maybe second rounders to bail after two years. But I'm sure Carolina made the push because they didn't want to give Blake leverage. Seems like the coaches might want to think about bringing these guys in the fall after they are drafted to maybe insure ourselves of at least three seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Baker Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, SJHovey said: Seems like the coaches might want to think about bringing these guys in the fall after they are drafted to maybe insure ourselves of at least three seasons. I’ve started wondering the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 hearing Bjorkman mentioned, makes me sad that Berry will likely share a very similar legacy and find his name on fan's list comparing him to Rube. Cmon Bubs, there is still time to prove the peanut gallery wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, SJHovey said: I was reading Brad's article about the Central Scouting rankings, and the potential for a few of UND's future recruits to be drafted this year. Has anyone studied the issue to figure out whether college programs are being hurt in those situations? It's sort of like the Blake situation. He was drafted, then played a year of juniors, which meant that after his junior year of college he could become a free agent. That sucked, because normally you only expect first rounders, or maybe second rounders to bail after two years. But I'm sure Carolina made the push because they didn't want to give Blake leverage. Seems like the coaches might want to think about bringing these guys in the fall after they are drafted to maybe insure ourselves of at least three seasons. Zellers immediately comes to mind with that. I'm sure could use a year in juniors, as the jump from (essentially) HS to college is quite big...but then he'd be in the same situation as Blake and being pressured to sign after his SO season here at UND. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: hearing Bjorkman mentioned, makes me sad that Berry will likely share a very similar legacy and find his name on fan's list comparing him to Rube. Cmon Bubs, there is still time to prove the peanut gallery wrong. That's a really tough comparison to make. Rube had a 149–186–11 record in his 10 seasons coaching at UND (.447) and didn't win a single championship of any kind. Meanwhile, Berry has a 206–104–33 record in 9 seasons (.649) and has won 7 championships (5 Penna's, 1 NCHC tourney, 1 natty). A more accurate comparison might be Bob May or Barry Thorndycraft...they each won one national title as well...but May only coached 2 seasons while Thorndycraft coached 5 seasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianvf Posted April 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 17 For as much crap as UMN fans like to poke at UND for hitting the portal for goalies, this has good comedic value. They picked up Souliere from PSU out of the portal to join Airey as their goalie tandem. That move pushed out Owen Bartoszkiewicz, who has now entered the portal as well. As a further twist to this.... Souliere is 25 years old already and will turn 26 years old during the 24/25 season. And he is Canadian. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: hearing Bjorkman mentioned, makes me sad that Berry will likely share a very similar legacy and find his name on fan's list comparing him to Rube. Cmon Bubs, there is still time to prove the peanut gallery wrong. Another candidate for the most ridiculous post of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 minutes ago, brianvf said: That's a really tough comparison to make. Rube had a 149–186–11 record in his 10 seasons coaching at UND (.447) and didn't win a single championship of any kind. Meanwhile, Berry has a 206–104–33 record in 9 seasons (.649) and has won 7 championships (5 Penna's, 1 NCHC tourney, 1 natty). A more accurate comparison might be Bob May or Barry Thorndycraft...they each won one national title as well...but May only coached 2 seasons while Thorndycraft coached 5 seasons. Fair enough, I guess following the likes of Gasparini, Blais, and Hakstol tainted my view.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Rick said: Another candidate for the most ridiculous post of the year. meh, I never win anything... don't get me wrong I like Brad, just not sure he will take us where we want to... it's a tall task with many facets. It would be curious if Brad gets the same treatment as Hakstol, by that I mean people are less furious and disappointed with his time on the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tnt Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, burd said: Maybe I just have higher expectations of a program like ours, which used to be considered the best or at least one of. Now we are content beating our rivals because they lose their best talent? We used to say, "Bring your best and be ready to lose." I hope the players and staff haven't lowered their standards like we have here. We don’t even expect to win a first round game anymore. To me, giving the coaching staff a complete pass on that is lowering our standards. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, AJS said: Boston College: 2 more early signings Boston University: Celibrini to sign after he's drafted Word on the 'net is that both Leonard and Perreault will be returning to BC for their SO years. That's 120 pts right there. Gauthier signed and no word yet on #4 pick Smith, their leading scorer. Wonder if Smith will sign or keep their big line intact. If Celebrini doesn't sign, a line with him and Eiserman would be insane next season. Both BC and BU look to be very very good again next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, brianvf said: For as much crap as UMN fans like to poke at UND for hitting the portal for goalies, this has good comedic value. They picked up Souliere from PSU out of the portal to join Airey as their goalie tandem. That move pushed out Owen Bartoszkiewicz, who has now entered the portal as well. As a further twist to this.... Souliere is 25 years old already and will turn 26 years old during the 24/25 season. And he is Canadian. That's hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, brianvf said: Word on the 'net is that both Leonard and Perreault will be returning to BC for their SO years. That's 120 pts right there. Gauthier signed and no word yet on #4 pick Smith, their leading scorer. Wonder if Smith will sign or keep their big line intact. If Celebrini doesn't sign, a line with him and Eiserman would be insane next season. Both BC and BU look to be very very good again next year. They have a serious problem though--can't win when it counts, despite all that talent. There must be a goat curse or something in there somewhere. That or they just refuse to play a full 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsioux Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, brianvf said: That's a really tough comparison to make. Rube had a 149–186–11 record in his 10 seasons coaching at UND (.447) and didn't win a single championship of any kind. Meanwhile, Berry has a 206–104–33 record in 9 seasons (.649) and has won 7 championships (5 Penna's, 1 NCHC tourney, 1 natty). A more accurate comparison might be Bob May or Barry Thorndycraft...they each won one national title as well...but May only coached 2 seasons while Thorndycraft coached 5 seasons. Not even in the same ballpark comparing Rube to Brad. Rube's teams were horrible at the end often getting blown out. We were pretty much the doormat of the WCHA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, burd said: They have a serious problem though--can't win when it counts, despite all that talent. There must be a goat curse or something in there somewhere. That or they just refuse to play a full 60. Too busy making predictions that the other team will be crying by the end of the game. #nomoretears 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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