2024 UND Football

[SIOUXFAN97]

8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Solid answer only challenged by the defense from about 10 years ago that could actually intercept a pass and change a game. 

yeah will ratelle probably has a beef with my answer.

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

The pollsters have been fooled enough and finally realize what the program is

Finishing #3 or #4 in the toughest conference in FCS? More like East Coast Bias when you look at the schools ranked most would not be #3 in MVFC.

[UND1983]

12 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

Finishing #3 or #4 in the toughest conference in FCS? More like East Coast Bias when you look at the schools ranked most would not be #3 in MVFC.

More like losing in the first round every year, which makes them look like fools for having them in Top 8-15 range

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

More like losing in the first round every year, which makes them look like fools for having them in Top 8-15 range

Based on how the same two teams win it all every year, right now we are in the range of #15. Not satisfied, just saying. I am fine with not being in pre season polls, we seldom are. 

[wheelsup]

On 5/9/2024 at 3:46 PM, SiouxHawkGuy said:

https://theanalyst.com/2024/05/2024-fcs-football-preseason-top-25-rankings/
 

 

wow no love after finishing at #16

Looks like we play all four of this guys top 4 this year.. 3 at home.  Seems like as good of a setup as we could ask for and plenty of opportunity to prove the voters wrong. 

Looks to me that UND is ranked correctly.. while I hope I’m wrong (and will be at every home game.. along with my mostly empty other season ticket seats).  Feel free to raise your hand and disagree but I don’t see us in the top 25 or in the upper half of the MVFC.  I hope the new offensive coordinator totally surprises me and the defense has a pulse this year.. but I’m expecting our peak is somewhere in the “other teams getting votes category”. Hope I’m wrong. 

[wheelsup]

3 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

Based on how the same two teams win it all every year, right now we are in the range of #15. Not satisfied, just saying. I am fine with not being in pre season polls, we seldom are. 

I love the optimism.  I can’t imagine us being in the range of 15 this year although there will be many opportunities to prove it.

i would like some of the same kool aid that you are drinking.. serious question.. what gives you optimism that we are a top 15 team this year? 

[AJS]

11 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

I love the optimism.  I can’t imagine us being in the range of 15 this year although there will be many opportunities to prove it.

i would like some of the same kool aid that you are drinking.. serious question.. what gives you optimism that we are a top 15 team this year? 

I’m not saying they are, but one reason I would accept is the FCS outside of a few teams isn’t great. 
 

Look at a team like USD that’s preseason Top 5. They return a lot from a mediocre offense & lost some studs on defense. If that’s a Top 5-7 team, then even with the questions UND has no reason they couldn’t end up Top 15.

I’m not optimistic the defense gets fixed, but UND was a playoff team with an awful defense last year.

[Sioux94]

A couple of things.....

We lost in the first round last year at home. We had both important coaches and players leave. Other than our NDSU win we continually sh*t the bed in playoff games or big games. Many on this board think we will barely go 6-6 this year. So it's no surprise we are not rated on top 25, seems like should at least be getting some votes though.  As someone else mentioned....pollsters are figuring out who and what we are. Frustrating as hell we are not at least a lock to be in Top 25 to start every year, that should be the minimum.... especially when a few of the teams on there....I've barely heard of. 

Preseason polls don't matter, but they also do matter. It's a lot harder to climb up in the rankings when you don't even start being ranked. After 6 games....and if a team goes 4-2 but one started out preseason at #10 and that same team started out not even ranked, if they played the exact same teams.....the team who started out ranked number 10 will undoubtedly be ranked higher after 6 weeks than the unranked team. That is why I continually say preseason rankings  do..... and do not matter. 

[gundy1124]

17 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

A couple of things.....

We lost in the first round last year at home. We had both important coaches and players leave. Other than our NDSU win we continually sh*t the bed in playoff games or big games. Many on this board think we will barely go 6-6 this year. So it's no surprise we are not rated on top 25, seems like should at least be getting some votes though.  As someone else mentioned....pollsters are figuring out who and what we are. Frustrating as hell we are not at least a lock to be in Top 25 to start every year, that should be the minimum.... especially when a few of the teams on there....I've barely heard of. 

Preseason polls don't matter, but they also do matter. It's a lot harder to climb up in the rankings when you don't even start being ranked. After 6 games....and if a team goes 4-2 but one started out preseason at #10 and that same team started out not even ranked, if they played the exact same teams.....the team who started out ranked number 10 will undoubtedly be ranked higher after 6 weeks than the unranked team. That is why I continually say preseason rankings not do..... and do not matter. 

A few categories to consider on the path to 6-6.

3 - Win or shoot yourself in the head games - Idaho St at Home, San Diego at Home, Murray St. at Home.

1 - Tossup game - Indiana State on the Road

4 - Not likely but need 2 games - Griz at Home, UNI at Home, Coyotes at Home, Ill St. on the Road.

4 - No past indicators of a Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Youngstown on the Road, Jacks at Home.

[Nodak78]

13 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

A few categories to consider on the path to 6-6.

3 - Win or shoot yourself in the head games - Idaho St at Home, San Diego at Home, Murray St. at Home.

1 - Tossup game - Indiana State on the Road

4 - Not likely but need 2 games - Griz at Home, UNI at Home, Coyotes at Home, Ill St. on the Road.

4 - No past indicators of a Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Youngstown on the Road, Jacks at Home.

Youngstown has a bad portal exit.  Might have a chance.

[AJS]

Here's what I got. There were a few teams that really were hit hard by graduation / portal (ISU-B, Youngstown, UNI). Some that weren't. 

• 4 - Win or season over - Idaho St at home, San Diego at home, Murray St. at home, at ISU-B
• 4 - Tossup games - UNI at home, at Youngstown, USD at home, at Illinois State
• 1 - Not Likely - Montana at Home
• 3 - No past indicators of Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Jacks at Home

 

[gundy1124]

3 minutes ago, AJS said:

Here's what I got. There were a few teams that really were hit hard by graduation / portal (ISU-B, Youngstown, UNI). Some that weren't. 

• 4 - Win or season over - Idaho St at home, San Diego at home, Murray St. at home, at ISU-B
• 4 - Tossup games - UNI at home, at Youngstown, USD at home, at Illinois State
• 1 - Not Likely - Montana at Home
• 3 - No past indicators of Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Jacks at Home

 

We are close!!

[forksandspoons]

Montana lost their stud QB and most of their defense, including the Big Sky defensive player of the year. I think they’ll take a step back this year. Unfortunately, I think UND will do the same. Montana’s returning WRs and RB scare me. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, forksandspoons said:

Montana lost their stud QB and most of their defense, including the Big Sky defensive player of the year. I think they’ll take a step back this year. Unfortunately, I think UND will do the same. Montana’s returning WRs and RB scare me. 

addition by subraction.......without KK our secondary is much much improved no matter what

 

[AJS]

8 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Montana lost their stud QB and most of their defense, including the Big Sky defensive player of the year. I think they’ll take a step back this year. Unfortunately, I think UND will do the same. Montana’s returning WRs and RB scare me. 

They seemed to have done really well in the Portal (both additions / not losing many), but you're right on, they seemed to have been hit pretty hard defensively to graduation. Over 50% of their tackles, two All-Americans. Agree, their offensive weapons are scary. 

[CMSioux]

5 hours ago, wheelsup said:

I love the optimism.  I can’t imagine us being in the range of 15 this year although there will be many opportunities to prove it.

i would like some of the same kool aid that you are drinking.. serious question.. what gives you optimism that we are a top 15 team this year? 

As we know the distance between 1-4 and the rest of the field is large. If D improves, I think our O will be fine. Some nice pedigrees on O.

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

A few categories to consider on the path to 6-6.

3 - Win or shoot yourself in the head games - Idaho St at Home, San Diego at Home, Murray St. at Home.

1 - Tossup game - Indiana State on the Road

4 - Not likely but need 2 games - Griz at Home, UNI at Home, Coyotes at Home, Ill St. on the Road.

4 - No past indicators of a Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Youngstown on the Road, Jacks at Home.

We did beat YSU on the road last time we played 

[shep]

To get to the meat of the equation.

Where will UND be better?

Where will UND be the same?

Where will UND be worse?

[SIOUXFAN97]

16 minutes ago, shep said:

To get to the meat of the equation.

Where will UND be better?

Where will UND be the same?

Where will UND be worse?

1. qb

2. coaches

3. defense 

[shep]

4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

1. qb

2. coaches

3. defense 

My concern is that you could be right about 3

[F'n Hawks]

I didn’t think the defense could be much worse, but now thinking it could be possible 

[sioux24/7]

Are there any guys on defense that are poised to breakout? I’m a big Pedigo guy but he’s already broke-out, imo. The two Moorhead kids, Teiken and Dixon, were highly touted. I have heard good things about Erkman. Rucker had flashes as a true freshman. McNeal finally got pretty consistent playing time. 

Feels like we are just really lacking on the line but there’s some decent prospects beyond that. Could be missing some. 

[Irish]

32 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

1. qb

2. coaches

3. defense 

Bubba's entire body of work shows he's not a winner. Yet here we are with another extension - and to salt the wound we have a "town hall meeting" where all questions are submitted but doesn't discuss his extensions or any expectations for the program.  We have a serious problem here and it starts at the top.

[Mama Sue]

“Top” as in AD

[Big Green]

15 hours ago, AJS said:

Here's what I got. There were a few teams that really were hit hard by graduation / portal (ISU-B, Youngstown, UNI). Some that weren't. 

• 4 - Win or season over - Idaho St at home, San Diego at home, Murray St. at home, at ISU-B
• 4 - Tossup games - UNI at home, at Youngstown, USD at home, at Illinois State
• 1 - Not Likely - Montana at Home
• 3 - No past indicators of Victory games - Iowa St on the Road, NDSU on the Road, Jacks at Home

 

Disagree with this one.  UND under Bubba is different at home.  See Spring of 2021 vs the Jacks, 2023 vs NDSU and the toss up game vs NDSU in Fall on 2021. As will as many others over the years.

Only 2 game with no chance of victory are at NDSU and at Iowa St.