2023 Football Season

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, Irish said:

You are 100% correct that this is the process every team (and organization) needs to do.  The main issue with us is that we have the same group doing the review that did it in 2021 (after a 5-6 season and the Bison game debacle) and concluded that even though Bubba's contract wasn't up that the best thing to do was give him an extension.  

Bubba has not earned a contract extension. I honestly hope Chaves isn't working on one as we speak.

[iramurphy]

2 hours ago, Irish said:

You are 100% correct that this is the process every team (and organization) needs to do.  The main issue with us is that we have the same group doing the review that did it in 2021 (after a 5-6 season and the Bison game debacle) and concluded that even though Bubba's contract wasn't up that the best thing to do was give him an extension.  

I understand your point. But that ship has sailed and we need to go from here. I don’t know what the future holds but my guess is if we win Sat and make the playoffs we won’t buyout the contract. If we lose Sat all bets are off and your guess is as good as mine. 

[Oxbow6]

44 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I understand your point. But that ship has sailed and we need to go from here. I don’t know what the future holds but my guess is if we win Sat and make the playoffs we won’t buyout the contract. If we lose Sat all bets are off and your guess is as good as mine. 

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Heck no!

[iramurphy]

35 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Duckies and bunnies?  I guess one could wonder where the pissants crowd fits into this if we want to get back to the middle school type crap. 

 In my opinion, and amongst the fans I usually interact with, the short answer is hell no they aren’t happy nor satisfied with this season.  At the bare minimum, most fans want to at least make the playoffs.  I think we have enough talent to have been at least 8-3 and hosting a first round playoff game and contending for a championship. Having said that, it’s just my opinion from the outside looking in. If we are 7-4 and don’t make the playoffs it’s our own fault. 

[UND1983]

if we don't make the playoffs this season will be a complete failure

[90siouxfan]

would everyone that is happy with the season raise your hand?  

 

NDSU win is a cherry on top of a turd sandwich.

[jdub27]

59 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Really curious who this "crowd" actually is? The casual fan that shows up to one game a year (NDSU or SDSU)?
Not sure I've talked to a single person who hasn't been frustrated or confused on the regression since the NDSU game. They show flashes of that on offense and defense at different times and then proceed to just find ways to do things that make no sense.

[Oxbow6]

Same Herder likes UND and UNI on Saturday. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

21 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Hunter Pinke's take on Kostich as special teams coach. 

https://x.com/hunter_pinke/status/1723402985328550200?s=20 

 

When is Shawn Kostich going to get the recognition he deserves? All his ST units do is help win games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he’s one of the best ST coaches in the country regardless of level!

get a grip hunter.

[iramurphy]

28 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

get a grip hunter.

Says not the man in the “arena” but from one of “those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat”.  

If you would stop these moronic comments and just state your opinion there can be reasonable discussion or debate. Hunter stated his opinion. State yours without the moronic comment. I would say Hunter has proven beyond a doubt he has a firm grip.  

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, iramurphy said:

Says not the man in the “arena” but from one of “those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat”.  

If you would stop these moronic comments and just state your opinion there can be reasonable discussion or debate. Hunter stated his opinion. State yours without the moronic comment. I would say Hunter has proven beyond a doubt he has a firm grip.  

his opinion is thru green colored lenses............1 playoff win* in 10 years tell you all you need to know. duckies and bunnies it is for some including hunter i guess.

*only about 9 teams left playing in the spring that year.

[iramurphy]

Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:

his opinion is thru green colored lenses............1 playoff win* in 10 years tell you all you need to know. duckies and bunnies it is for some including hunter i guess.

*only about 9 teams left playing in the spring that year.

His opinion has nothing to do with playoffs, or the program. He voiced his opinion and support for one coach.  I don’t think it’s Hunter who needs to get a grip. 

[Irish]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

I understand your point. But that ship has sailed and we need to go from here. I don’t know what the future holds but my guess is if we win Sat and make the playoffs we won’t buyout the contract. If we lose Sat all bets are off and your guess is as good as mine. 

Agreed that that ship has sailed.  But continuing with the seafaring analogy we have the exact same Admiral making the decision about the same Captain as in 2001.  I'm not sure that either has learned anything in the interim.  

[UND-FB-FAN]

43 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

his opinion is thru green colored lenses............1 playoff win* in 10 years tell you all you need to know. duckies and bunnies it is for some including hunter i guess.

*only about 9 teams left playing in the spring that year.

 

40 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

His opinion has nothing to do with playoffs, or the program. He voiced his opinion and support for one coach.  I don’t think it’s Hunter who needs to get a grip. 

Hunter has a valid opinion, and I agree Kostich as an individual is a good special teams coach. With that said, Hunter’s opinion does not change what @SIOUXFAN97 states about the program; the wins/losses and playoff performances have been underwhelming over the past 10 years.

Both Hunter’s opinion and the program not performing well-enough can be true (and in my opinion, are true).

[UND-FB-FAN]

10 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Every year they must evaluate and decide if we not only have the necessary resources but do we have the right people in place to manage those resources to move the program to the conference and national championship level we all want for UND. That will require the tough decisions regarding personnel. If and when changes are made that change must be managed to minimize disruption to the University, to staff, to players, to the program and to us as fans. It’s complicated and difficult. 

Yes, it’s complicated and difficult, but champions behave like champions well before they are champions. If the University of North Dakota football program is going to ascend to a championship level, then championship-level type of decisions need to be made. Let’s see how the next week or two plays out.

[iramurphy]

14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 

Hunter has a valid opinion, and I agree Kostich as an individual is a good special teams coach. With that said, Hunter’s opinion does not change what @SIOUXFAN97 states about the program; the wins/losses and playoff performances have been underwhelming over the past 10 years.

Both Hunter’s opinion and the program not performing well-enough can be true (and in my opinion, are true).

I get that but Hunter was quoted regarding a coach not the program. The comments regarding program struggles while valid were misdirected at Hunter.
I believe the “ Hunter get a grip” was a cheap shot.  I’m not aware Hunter posts here so no reason for it. 
I believe the majority of folks on this forum are well aware of the history of the programs struggles since the FCS move. The  same complaints don’t need to enter every thread though. 

[90siouxfan]

How much to buy out Bubba?  Where does that money come from?  Is there a go fund me?

[iramurphy]

45 minutes ago, Irish said:

Agreed that that ship has sailed.  But continuing with the seafaring analogy we have the exact same Admiral making the decision about the same Captain as in 2001.  I'm not sure that either has learned anything in the interim.  

I know you didn’t mean 2001 but I get your point. Regardless of how I feel, I think much depends on Saturday and whether or not this team moves on. 

[iramurphy]

11 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Yes, it’s complicated and difficult, but champions behave like champions well before they are champions. If the University of North Dakota football program is going to ascend to a championship level, then championship-level type of decisions need to be made. Let’s see how the next week or two plays out.

I believe you are correct in that it rests on what happens Saturday and hopefully beyond. 

[Wilbur]

1 hour ago, 90siouxfan said:

How much to buy out Bubba?  Where does that money come from?  Is there a go fund me?

Extremely interesting times if the team loses on Saturday and misses the playoffs.  Chaves will have to make some kind of comment to the media as the pitchforks will be out after a 6-5 season.

[90siouxfan]

If they lose I would hope Bubba would just retire....   

[shep]

1 minute ago, 90siouxfan said:

If they lose I would hope Bubba would just retire....   

I can't imagine any coach doing that in any sport. You want to go out on a high.

 

[sioux24/7]

1 minute ago, shep said:

I can't imagine any coach doing that in any sport. You want to go out on a high.

 

If he loves UND as much as he says he does….

[Sioux27]

On 11/13/2023 at 11:45 AM, UND-FB-FAN said:

you’re not privy 

Actually I am just a little bit.