2023 Football Season

[geaux_sioux]

20 minutes ago, shep said:

The main critique I have of UND Football in general is that I can't recall the last time the D was better than the O.

It starts with recruiting. The OL has brought in quite a few 300+ guys while the D has the 2 transfers and not much else. 

It may be the 3-4 way, but how many tackles do the interior linemen make per game? 

The O put up over 500 yards yesterday. That's crazy.

The D gave up over 300. That's not good.

2014 the d was better I’d bet?

[Dustin]

17 minutes ago, shep said:

I can't recall the last time the D was better than the O.

I would say the Rudy years, like 2015 and 2016.  Defense seemed to get scores then much more regularly than now. 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

North Dakota - South Dakota

 

 

border battle baby!!!!

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 hours ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

North Dakota - South Dakota

 

 

border battle baby!!!!

has there ever been a trophy for this game?  

i said earlier that a traveling trophy for the bizon game needs to get done and it needs to go from fargo/gf to hillsboro by boat on the red if the red is open, feet if slushy, and snowmobile if it's frozen...

i saw that wyoming and csu walk / run the bronze shoe from laramie to fort collins each game...

[Sioux94]

3 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

 Another contract extension will likely give us that answer.

I think they have it set up for Bubba to retire when his current contract is up and have Danny take over, I'd be surprised and pissed if another extension happens. If prefer Danny take over this next season but I don't think it will happen until his contract expires. 

[dmksioux]

19 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

has there ever been a trophy for this game?  

i said earlier that a traveling trophy for the bizon game needs to get done and it needs to go from fargo/gf to hillsboro by boat on the red if the red is open, feet if slushy, and snowmobile if it's frozen...

i saw that wyoming and csu walk / run the bronze shoe from laramie to fort collins each game...

Yes, the Sitting Bull trophy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull_Trophy

[SIOUXFAN97]

20 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

Yes, the Sitting Bull trophy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull_Trophy

nice....where is it?

[petey23]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

nice....where is it?

Next to the nickel at the Heritage Center?

[Parkers Pros]

4 hours ago, shep said:

The main critique I have of UND Football in general is that I can't recall the last time the D was better than the O.

It starts with recruiting. The OL has brought in quite a few 300+ guys while the D has the 2 transfers and not much else. 

It may be the 3-4 way, but how many tackles do the interior linemen make per game? 

The O put up over 500 yards yesterday. That's crazy.

The D gave up over 300. That's not good.

I feel like we have been down on the linebacker side especially the outside linebackers the past 2yrs. The 3-4 can be crazy good. The key to this defense is the 3 down lineman especially the NG. He is the tip of the spear who determines the flow. Their job is to force as many double teams as possible and occupy lineman to keep your playmaking linebackers, clean to make whatever plays they need to make. Problem is we’ve been undersized on the line, and a little under athletic at the linebacker position since Turner. Pedigo has been the only linebacker that really is getting home for us. Mullin has made a few big plays, and Buckner flashes once in a while. But consistency is a problem. I feel like we have addressed the line. But we’re still looking for those outside backers to show up.
 

[shep]

1 minute ago, Parkers Pros said:

I feel like we have been down on the linebacker side especially the outside linebackers the past 2yrs. The 3-4 can be crazy good. The key to this defense is the 3 down lineman especially the NG. He is the tip of the spear who determines the flow. Their job is to force as many double teams as possible and occupy lineman to keep your playmaking linebackers, clean to make whatever plays they need to make. Problem is we’ve been undersized on the line, and a little under athletic at the linebacker position since Jackson. Pedigo has been the only linebacker that really is getting home for us. Mullin has made a few big plays, and Buckner flashes once in a while. But consistency is a problem. I feel like we have addressed the line. But we’re still looking for those outside backers to show up.
 

You have a good grasp of what it takes in the 3-4 but I'm just not seeing the big guys occupying 2 OL's consistently. I like Pedigo especially in the last two games and I I wish McNeal had 10 more pounds of meat on him, but he's been good. 

Still need to tackle better across the board.

[CMSioux]

Will it take a change in the head coach for us to move away from the 3-4 defense? Just seems difficult to recruit the personnel to make it dynamic. 

[The Sicatoka]

The story is it’s easier to recruit LB than DL in this region so the 3-4 is somewhat related to that. 

[geaux_sioux]

20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

The story is it’s easier to recruit LB than DL in this region so the 3-4 is somewhat related to that. 

For D2 in the 90s sure. Lots of good 4-3s in the region

[SiouxHawkGuy]

23 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

has there ever been a trophy for this game?  

i said earlier that a traveling trophy for the bizon game needs to get done and it needs to go from fargo/gf to hillsboro by boat on the red if the red is open, feet if slushy, and snowmobile if it's frozen...

i saw that wyoming and csu walk / run the bronze shoe from laramie to fort collins each game...

Should definitely be a trophy game

[SIOUXFAN97]

i volunteered at the red pepper at the ralph and they (red peps) aren't allowing customer to control the white sauce......they used to keep it at the counter and you could add as much as you want but now you have to ask "heavy on the white sauce...or light on the white sauce".....chaos!!

[CMSioux]

Prior to the start of the season 6-3 is right where most would have seen this team. FCS game does not count against us and our two losses are "quality losses" in the eyes of the committee. Even if we split, based on Montana hosting a first round last year, UND should be hosting first round. 

[GoHawks]

On 11/5/2023 at 12:54 PM, CMSioux said:

Will it take a change in the head coach for us to move away from the 3-4 defense? Just seems difficult to recruit the personnel to make it dynamic. 

Been saying for years they need to get rid of that terrible defense!

[tnt]

1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

Prior to the start of the season 6-3 is right where most would have seen this team. FCS game does not count against us and our two losses are "quality losses" in the eyes of the committee. Even if we split, based on Montana hosting a first round last year, UND should be hosting first round. 

Do they consider them quality losses regardless of the score of those games?   Of course everyone has been blown out by SDSU, but what will the UNI game do to the equation?

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, GoHawks said:

Been saying for years they need to get rid of that terrible defense!

It’s a fine defense with the proper body types. We don’t recruit them though. DL in general, regardless of scheme, is too small.

[Oxbow6]

UND has 2 games left vs teams currently ranked higher. Tell me now they go 1-1 and I'd say yes please.

 

[Goose15]

13 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

UND has 2 games left vs teams currently ranked higher. Tell me now they go 1-1 and I'd say yes please.

 

Only one team is ranked higher than us, USD. Illinois State is not above us. 

[shep]

3 minutes ago, Goose15 said:

Only one team is ranked higher than us, USD. Illinois State is not above us. 

If UND loses this week they will be.

[GDPritch]

3 hours ago, tnt said:

Do they consider them quality losses regardless of the score of those games?   Of course everyone has been blown out by SDSU, but what will the UNI game do to the equation?

I hear ya. IMO that was not a quality loss regardless how it’s defined.  The  UNI game was a bad loss (cus it was a blowout vs a decent but not great team) vice being a quality (close) loss.  

[GDPritch]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

UND has 2 games left vs teams currently ranked higher. Tell me now they go 1-1 and I'd say yes please.

 

Illinois St is ranked higher than UND? Quite sure they’re not.

[Oxbow6]

27 minutes ago, GDPritch said:

Illinois St is ranked higher than UND? Quite sure they’re not.

 

1 hour ago, Goose15 said:

Only one team is ranked higher than us, USD. Illinois State is not above us. 

I go with Sam Herder's poll. He has ISU ahead of UND. He knows the FCS.  The coaches poll is a bunch of clueless coffee getting office assistants filling out the poll.