Sioux94 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: it was more the angle of the route AND hoos.....weird angle running to the sideline...q had a ton of time.....easier to has hoos turn it hard to the sideline and pickup the first down or cut to the middle of the field and go for the big hitter AND may use red or isaiah who i'm assuming have more catches than hoos has this year...it's the down the chimney throw your asking a cold qb to make that aint that easy. I thought that afterwards too...maybe use Smith in that scenario. That said, what is supposed to sell it is that Hoos is a short yard type of back. Also Hoos has has decent hands from what I've seen. Hoos can't change his route in the middle of the play though, that would have really F'd everything up. Remember how Weber had their slow TE WIDE open on 4th and short and took it to the end zone? That is how that play could have gone.....but credit Weber for great defense and their defender being all over Hoos forcing an absolute perfect throw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 The offense in the first half was just as bad as the defense.. we were running the ball well and we kept trying to throw it. the defense might play a bit better if the offense didn’t keep giving the ball right back. We know the offense has been the better unit this year but they kept throwing the defense right back out on the field. A couple of nice long drives by the offense on the first half would have helped those guys out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Feel free to change to a new thread if you feel this is off topic ( or should be its own topic), but who would be in the running for a DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: I thought that afterwards too...maybe use Smith in that scenario. That said, what is supposed to sell it is that Hoos is a short yard type of back. Also Hoos has has decent hands from what I've seen. Hoos can't change his route in the middle of the play though, that would have really F'd everything up. Remember how Weber had their slow TE WIDE open on 4th and short and took it to the end zone? That is how that play could have gone.....but credit Weber for great defense and their defender being all over Hoos forcing an absolute perfect throw. yeah kinda seems like we couldn't decide if we just wanted the first down or the home run hitter....even if he catches that throw he's probably tackled with a ten or 15 yard gain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNHawk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dustin said: Feel free to change to a new thread if you feel this is off topic ( or should be its own topic), but who would be in the running for a DC? Rudy was pretty good at stopping offenses IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, wheelsup said: The offense in the first half was just as bad as the defense I can accept a clunker half/game if it’s the exception rather than the rule. Defense was consistently missing tackles and giving up chunk yards all season. I never had confidence to expect a 3 and out from the D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 minute ago, MNHawk said: Rudy was pretty good at stopping offenses IMO. Haha. That would be an interesting strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 still wondering what kk was thinking on that 4th down...he literally was just staring and not moving or reacting...just literally pulled yanked on the guy....easy call..first down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dustin said: I can accept a clunker half/game if it’s the exception rather than the rule. Defense was consistently missing tackles and giving up chunk yards all season. I never had confidence to expect a 3 and out from the D. I agree.. I also knew going into the game in order to win that the offense had to maintain possession and help out the defense.. clearly we didn’t do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going48 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Sioux94 said: Agree. I think Weber is the better team, but I think maybe we create a few more breaks at home and have a better chance. I will be cheering for Weber the rest of the way. They are one of the Big Sky teams that I've never really hated.....just respected. Disagree. We lost by 7, at home we win by 14. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNHawk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Going48 said: Disagree. We lost by 7, at home we win by 14. Even if that is the case, we still have to be able to win big games on the road. If we win this week, we are sent to Bozeman for an even harder road game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nodakvindy Posted November 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Dustin said: Last year it seemed Freund and Holinka were equally good choices for Bubba’s successor. It’s obviously not the case today. I’d like for Bubba to take the high road and resign before his contract is up. Hand the reins to Danny, and let him pick his DC. (Maybe it’s Holinka, but that choice wouldn’t get me excited for the defense to come on the field. I think I’d question Danny’s judgment in that scenario as well.) This kind of thinking is problematic. UND HC job can't be like grandma's China where someone just inherits it. Whenever Bubba leaves they need to look far and wide to find the best person to lead this program and hopefully inject some fresh ideas and vision. We've had the RT coaching tree for 35 years so next hire may be best coming from outside that, keeping some legacy guys as assistants. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I haven’t read anything since my very negative post before half time. I want to be consistent. Final score matters. It would be fake if I was overly upset having the ball with 2 minutes remaining with a chance to tie. Losing by 7 on the road. You can build off this. That being said there are absolute issues on defense that need to be addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Going48 said: Disagree. We lost by 7, at home we win by 14. Were you watching the game? We couldn't stop them on defense. They got conservative with their big lead. I think we maybe could have won at home.....but I definitely would not say we were a lock to win by 14 at home. Could it happen....yes. But if we were playing at home....woulda been a one score game either way IMO. Let's not let the 7 point score fool ourselves, they dominated us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Its time to take a full look at the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, nodakvindy said: This kind of thinking is problematic. UND HC job can't be like grandma's China where someone just inherits it. Whenever Bubba leaves they need to look far and wide to find the best person to lead this program and hopefully inject some fresh ideas and vision. We've had the RT coaching tree for 35 years so next hire may be best coming from outside that, keeping some legacy guys as assistants. I am equally ok with this approach. I think we have enough of a good thing going that some personnel stability from one HC to the next is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: Were you watching the game? We couldn't stop them on defense. They got conservative with their big lead. I think we maybe could have won at home.....but I definitely would not say we were a lock to win by 14 at home. Could it happen....yes. But if we were playing at home....woulda been a one score game either way IMO. Let's not let the 7 point score fool ourselves, they dominated us. But we dominate at home. Home field is huge. We need to win road battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNHawk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dustin said: I am equally ok with this approach. I think we have enough of a good thing going that some personnel stability from one HC to the next is good. The goal of every hire should be a program changing guy like Jay Hill or Troy Taylor. Eck is looking like one of those guys as well. I’m not sure that we have one of those within the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: But we dominate at home. Home field is huge. We need to win road battles. We do play MUCH better at home. But we literally only dominated Missouri State at home this year. We did not dominate UNI, USD, or ACU....all were down to the wire. None of those teams are as good as Weber. SDSU dominated us at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Football Fan Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Last 3 playoff losses gave up over 300 to Nicholls over 200 against James Madison over 300 against Weber Cannot go deeper without being better against run. Either scheme or recruit or position coach change. 3rd down defense was poor all year. Not sure if it was talent, scheme or position coach. I am certain or at least expect that there will be some type of changes for the next year. Offense controlling the ball was huge this year for helping our D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: We do play MUCH better at home. But we literally only dominated Missouri State at home this year. We did not dominate UNI, USD, or ACU....all were down to the wire. None of those teams are as good as Weber. SDSU dominated us at home. The difference was NAU. Best comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: We do play MUCH better at home. But we literally only dominated Missouri State at home this year. We did not dominate UNI, USD, or ACU....all were down to the wire. None of those teams are as good as Weber. SDSU dominated us at home. Frisco is SDSU vs NDSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangolou Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, nodakvindy said: This kind of thinking is problematic. UND HC job can't be like grandma's China where someone just inherits it. Whenever Bubba leaves they need to look far and wide to find the best person to lead this program and hopefully inject some fresh ideas and vision. We've had the RT coaching tree for 35 years so next hire may be best coming from outside that, keeping some legacy guys as assistants. Hiring the best coach available make sense but for reference, name me the the last NDSU coach that didn't come from their own coaching tree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going48 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: Were you watching the game? We couldn't stop them on defense. They got conservative with their big lead. I think we maybe could have won at home.....but I definitely would not say we were a lock to win by 14 at home. Could it happen....yes. But if we were playing at home....woulda been a one score game either way IMO. Let's not let the 7 point score fool ourselves, they dominated us. "We couldn't stop them on defense"? and I'm sure their "Webber94" was very satisfied with giving up 31 to a lowly MV team. We didn't quit and until the last drive, they weren't that impressive on D either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said: am certain or at least expect that there will be some type of changes for the next year If there isn’t, then I am going to start questioning Bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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