Green Banner Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Random takes perusing the new roster: Somebody get Owen McLaughlin a sandwich ... stat! Between grad students and fifth years, six roster slots; throw in traditional fourth year seniors, nine slots 16 of 27 are under six feet tall I track a stat that @PCMalways enjoyed: Linear Density (wt in lb divided by ht in inches). If you can skate better than average and your LD is ~2.7 or better it's really hard to knock you down. There are 7F, 4D, and a G at 2.68 or better. I suspect that's coming with an older squad this year (testosterone kicking in on age 20+ males). Jackson Kunz is mucho-grande hombra (LD is 228/75 or 3.04!) Only 3 dmen over 6ft, alot of 5'9s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Green Banner said: Only 3 dmen over 6ft, alot of 5'9s I'm not buying that Ethan Frisch is 5'10". I'm that, and last time I stood by him he had me by a couple inches. But I get your point. That said ... The game has and is changing. "Forest" defensemen are giving way to shorter, stouter, mobile defenders. See: 6'0", 192, Cale Makar when he was a UMass sophomore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Random takes perusing the new roster: Somebody get Owen McLaughlin a sandwich ... stat! Between grad students and fifth years, six roster slots; throw in traditional fourth year seniors, nine slots 16 of 27 are under six feet tall I track a stat that @PCMalways enjoyed: Linear Density (wt in lb divided by ht in inches). If you can skate better than average and your LD is ~2.7 or better it's really hard to knock you down. There are 7F, 4D, and a G at 2.68 or better. I suspect that's coming with an older squad this year (testosterone kicking in on age 20+ males). Jackson Kunz is mucho-grande hombra (LD is 228/75 or 3.04!) I saw Owen McLaughlin at USA Arena during a World Juniors practice evaluation. He was the second best player on the ice that day behind Isaac Howard. He will be an excellent player for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Given the mix of sizes, speed, skating skills, puck skills, PK ability, PP ability, and experience, UND just might have the best defensive group in toto in college hockey this season. And that's without a guy named Jake Sanderson who would be a junior. That'll surely draw the Faber-lovin' Goophies out of the woodwork. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Given the mix of sizes, speed, skating skills, puck skills, PK ability, PP ability, and experience, UND just might have the best defensive group in toto in college hockey this season. And that's without a guy named Jake Sanderson who would be a junior. That'll surely draw the Faber-lovin' Goophies out of the woodwork. Ha, before I saw your small font text, I was gonna say that Gopher faithful are gonna take offense to that. They're convinced that they have the best d-corps and first line in college hockey. They will have a great D group for sure, but their forward depth is lacking IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Defense? It takes six on game day, and eight (injuries) over a year. UND's Eight are plug-and-play ready -- no freshmen: Three fifth-year guys, an alternate captain senior, a U20s junior plus another junior, and two sophomores, all with significant game experience (even, PP, PK). Can any other team say that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Forwards? Balance. UND's key at forward will be ... Roll Four. Depth through the group is the strength*. Don't be taking penalties. And if the other team does, make them pay. *Quite literally, last season's second half checking line (Ness, Albrecht, Portz) could be in the press box some nights. Maybe not Portz ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 If I have a concern this fall, it's in the net. Hellsten has talent but the net was not his last season; will he step up. DeRidder has resume but can he adjust from seeing almost 35 shots per game at MSU to seeing just 25? He won't be as "involved"; can he make the transition. *That's what UND goalies saw on average last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: If I have a concern this fall, it's in the net. Hellsten has talent but the net was not his last season; will he step up. DeRidder has resume but can he adjust from seeing almost 35 shots per game at MSU to seeing just 25? He won't be as "involved"; can he make the transition. *That's what UND goalies saw on average last season. I would say another concern would be someone to be the big draw guy Connor Ford was. Hoping Jamernik can fulfill that role, as it would be nice to have that whole line for big situations should they put him back with Senden and Hain. Another concern for me is did they put in as much time connecting and working with each other like they did last year knowing that would make or break the season with so many new guys last year? Hopefully they aren’t taking for granted with so many pieces back on a league champion that they will be one of the top teams again. We saw how that played out for St. Cloud. Still need guys to take a step forward and a few freshmen to make an impact. Hopefully the competition for playing time has been a motivating factor to prevent complacency. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeytherapy13 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Given the mix of sizes, speed, skating skills, puck skills, PK ability, PP ability, and experience, UND just might have the best defensive group in toto in college hockey this season. And that's without a guy named Jake Sanderson who would be a junior. That'll surely draw the Faber-lovin' Goophies out of the woodwork. Fully Agree. I think we may have the best defensive depth in all the land. Maybe we don't have a high end offensive D unless Moore or Johnson blossom, but we are well-rounded. If we can keep Gaber going, have him on a line with other offensive threats with some actual top-6 scoring talent (which ended up lacking at the end of the season last year), this team is going to be hard to play against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSSioux Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 19 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: ROSTERS! Got your fresh hot UND 2022-23 Men's Hockey roster, he-ah! Get ya rosters! https://fightinghawks.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster If you compare their height/weight from last year on the guys returning, it is amazing to see how most of the returnees are 1-2 inches shorter than last year's measurements. What in the world is Pooly doing to have these guys shrink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 hours ago, tnt said: I would say another concern would be someone to be the big draw guy Connor Ford was. Hoping Jamernik can fulfill that role, ... Jam and Schmaltz each need to put about 5% onto their faceoff win percentages of 2021-22. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, KSSioux said: If you compare their height/weight from last year on the guys returning, it is amazing to see how most of the returnees are 1-2 inches shorter than last year's measurements. What in the world is Pooly doing to have these guys shrink? OK, I broke into REA and got the tailor's cloth tape Pooly uses. I stretched it out about 2 inches so 6 foot reads 5 foot 10. It was so Kleven stays 6'4" and not 6'6" and gets stolen by MBB. Riese Gaber is really upset with me for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSSioux Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: OK, I broke into REA and got the tailor's cloth tape Pooly uses. I stretched it out about 2 inches so 6 foot reads 5 foot 10. It was so Kleven stays 6'4" and not 6'6" and gets stolen by MBB. Riese Gaber is really upset with me for that. I just think it is pretty funny to look at some of the height/weight numbers and there are obvious games that are being played by teams on how they represent that information. I doubt other teams look at this info too closely, and I just wait to see how the players actually perform and have progressed season to season. Pooly no doubt does a great job with these kids, and I am not sure he is the one that actually does the data gathering, but I had to reference someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 All joking aside, I compared last year's roster (from 2021-22 prospectus) to 2022-23 roster web page. Of the 20 guys on both lists, the average went from 6' 186 to 5'11" 189. Eight guys "shrunk" two inches: both Johnsons, Ness, Albrecht, Senden, Portz, Bast, Jamernik. Montgomery, Jandric, Frisch, Gaber, Hellsten all "shrunk" one inch. No one "grew" taller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 12 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: All joking aside, I compared last year's roster (from 2021-22 prospectus) to 2022-23 roster web page. Of the 20 guys on both lists, the average went from 6' 186 to 5'11" 189. Eight guys "shrunk" two inches: both Johnsons, Ness, Albrecht, Senden, Portz, Bast, Jamernik. Montgomery, Jandric, Frisch, Gaber, Hellsten all "shrunk" one inch. No one "grew" taller. Inflation... dollars just don't buy as much tape anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 13 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: All joking aside, I compared last year's roster (from 2021-22 prospectus) to 2022-23 roster web page. Of the 20 guys on both lists, the average went from 6' 186 to 5'11" 189. Eight guys "shrunk" two inches: both Johnsons, Ness, Albrecht, Senden, Portz, Bast, Jamernik. Montgomery, Jandric, Frisch, Gaber, Hellsten all "shrunk" one inch. No one "grew" taller. So the measurements went from skates on to skates off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Was told today that we'll get captains next week. They haven't voted yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadR Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: Was told today that we'll get captains next week. They haven't voted yet. Stoney - what are the early lines in practice so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, ChadR said: Stoney - what are the early lines in practice so far? I know they just got their whole team there this week. Well, about 10 days ago, so it's still a lot of juggling. I'll see what I can find out. EDIT: Apparently not a lot of on ice this week as they are doing off-ice testing, Ironman stuff this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Is it an elite group? If not, wtf we gonna do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, burd said: Is it an elite group? If not, wtf we gonna do? Not enough; too many? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: Not enough; too many? Well done, Sic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoneySIOUX Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, burd said: Is it an elite group? If not, wtf we gonna do? Bitch about it on the internet and feel sorry for ourselves because our lives have not turned out the way we expected and UND hockey is the only thing in the world we base our happiness on?????? 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Bitch about it on the internet and feel sorry for ourselves because our lives have not turned out the way we expected and UND hockey is the only thing in the world we base our happiness on?????? LOL...I also base my happiness on living vicariously through my children, and if they lose and UND loses...there's always alcohol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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