UND vs. Notre Dame - Albany Regional - NCAA regional semis

[yzerman19]

Blue chippas make a big difference

[N of GF]

3 minutes ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

I feel as though there is a bit of a recency bias to this question. When Hak was running the show people would've rather won a natty once every five years and missed the tourney the other four, instead of always getting there and never winning.

Definitely. That's why there was a 'Fire Hak' thread for a lot of his time here. Everyone here wanted the natty's. 

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, rochsioux said:

2016: 34-6-4 National Champs

2017: 21-16-3  Lost to BU first round

2018: 17-13-10 Missed the tourney 

2019: 18-17-2  Missed the tourney

2020: 26-5-4  Covid

2021:  22-6-1  Lost to UMD in regional title

2022:  24-14-1  Lost to ND first round

Since the NC$$ title six years ago UND has won one tournament game beating the mighty AIC last year. Let that sink in a bit, ONE win in six years. Don’t know about anyone else but I expect a little more.  Conference titles are nice but lose a little significance for me when we can’t even get out of a regional. 

2018 and 2019 teams were painful to watch. This team is really just slightly north of those because they had way more heart and Driscoll was terrific in the 2nd half. 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

But we have culture which is do very important. 

[Oxbow6]

Worse part is UND can't even get the interlocking ND back in circulation now..........

[brianvf]

3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

2018 and 2019 teams were painful to watch. This team is really just slightly north of those because they had way more heart and Driscoll was terrific in the 2nd half. 

This season looked like it was headed in that direction after the Cornell/WMU series but to their credit this team really poured it on for a few weeks there and were really fun to watch. They haven’t played the same though since the 3rd period of the first UNO game. Lost the lead in a game that could have clinched the outright Penrose. Then not the same looking team since then. 

[SiouxperDave]

30 minutes ago, rochsioux said:

In 12 years under Hakstol UND won zero NC$$ championships.  They made the NC$$ tourney all 12 years and the Frozen Four eight times and only lost the opening regional game twice (went 18-4 in regionals, 1-7 in Frozen Fours).  If you had to chose, would you rather have Berry’s tournament record or Haks ? Berry is 3-3 in regionals, 2-0 in frozen fours with one frozen four appearance in six years (Covid year a non counter) and made the tourney in 4 of 6 years.

For me I think I would take Hakstol’s.  The seasons were more fun when they would get to the frozen four so often.  Not making the tourney or losing the first game is a real downer.  Granted, losing in the frozen four was no fun either but it was a lot of fun winning the regionals so often…the season lasted a lot longer.  Under Berry there was only one fun post season, and some years no post season. Not sure one title makes up enough for all the other quick exits. 

Tampa was awesome so I’ll take Berry.

[N of GF]

3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

2018 and 2019 teams were painful to watch. This team is really just slightly north of those because they had way more heart and Driscoll was terrific in the 2nd half. 

I'll agree with you here, but why do so many of you insist on forgetting that the '17 team was 'good enough' to win it all. If the BU game had gone our way, you never know. In the spring of '20 we were all looking forward to avenging our early season loss to Mankato in the national title game. That was canceled. Was last year a bad UND team? Yeah, obviously not, but another OT heartbreaker. 

I just don't understand why so many of you are so quick to be embarrassed by your favorite team.

[Benny Baker]

15 teams lose out in the NCAAs every year; 44 don’t even make it; 1 wins.

Get used to it already.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, Benny Baker said:

15 teams lose out in the NCAAs every year; 44 don’t even make it; 1 wins.

Get used to it already.

Are you Hak's agent??

[Big A HG]

6 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

But we have culture which is do very important. 

 

What culture is that?  3 sog in the first period of the biggest game of the season against a mediocre Notre Dame team?  24 shots on goal total with extra time?  Basically zero display of skill at any point in the game?  

 

The idea of recruiting a team of nail guns who will staple you to the boards all game while cycling the puck endlessly until you turn it over...then sometimes getting an outside shot while the opposing defense just packs it in because you have no skill isn't going to cut it in NCAA hockey anymore.  Our best scoring chance was a penalty shot and our best player couldn't even put in on net while doing absolutely nothing skill-wise to try and beat the goalie.  But hey, we have "culture"...it's won so many other titles for us.  It definitely wasn't because our 2016 title team was full of NHLers that Hak recruited.  

[N of GF]

4 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

15 teams lose out in the NCAAs every year; 44 don’t even make it; 1 wins.

Get used to it already.

Perspective? C'mon, man!

[Benny Baker]

5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Are you Hak's agent??

Yes.  Why do you ask—looking for volunteer video coach position??  I might be able to hook you up.

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

What culture is that?  3 sog in the first period of the biggest game of the season against a mediocre Notre Dame team?  24 shots on goal total with extra time?  Basically zero display of skill at any point in the game?  

 

The idea of recruiting a team of nail guns who will staple you to the boards all game while cycling the puck endlessly until you turn it over...then sometimes getting an outside shot while the opposing defense just packs it in because you have no skill isn't going to cut it in NCAA hockey anymore.  Our best scoring chance was a penalty shot and our best player couldn't even put in on net while doing absolutely nothing skill-wise to try and beat the goalie.  But hey, we have "culture"...it's one so many other titles for us.  It definitely wasn't because our 2016 title team was full of NHLers that Hak recruited.  

this^^^^^^^^^

[MafiaMan]

16 minutes ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

I feel as though there is a bit of a recency bias to this question. When Hak was running the show people would've rather won a natty once every five years and missed the tourney the other four, instead of always getting there and never winning.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

1 hour ago, crb1 said:

I do agree with this. IMO Berry has underperformed, and I do feel there is a real issue with recruiting.  Rizzo, Morrow and I am sure there are a couple more I am missing but that is worrisome. Berry got a contract extension but he should seriously look inward in his recruiting philosophy as I feel something is not working. 

Re Morrow and Rizzo, both were lost due to having them wait to come in. I respect Berry for being firm on that front. Same thing happened with Donovan, and he was correct there. Rizzo was coming off an injury and not performing. Just a theory but I think we lost him when we brought Jamernik in at the halfway mark last year. Should we have brought Rizzo instead?

Morrow clearly didn't need an extra year as we thought, but he also didn't want to be in Fargo; not a good sign of his desire to be an hour north.  

[SIOUXELEVENS]

Haks recruits, you may be on to something. 
 

[SIOUXFAN97]

6 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

What culture is that?  3 sog in the first period of the biggest game of the season against a mediocre Notre Dame team?  24 shots on goal total with extra time?  Basically zero display of skill at any point in the game?  

 

The idea of recruiting a team of nail guns who will staple you to the boards all game while cycling the puck endlessly until you turn it over...then sometimes getting an outside shot while the opposing defense just packs it in because you have no skill isn't going to cut it in NCAA hockey anymore.  Our best scoring chance was a penalty shot and our best player couldn't even put in on net while doing absolutely nothing skill-wise to try and beat the goalie.  But hey, we have "culture"...it's one so many other titles for us.  It definitely wasn't because our 2016 title team was full of NHLers that Hak recruited.  

don't forget coming out of the locker room after the goal was overturned and looking likethe bad news bears for 90 seconds.....

kinda reminds me of bubba using a to before running a play in the second half....how does that happen?

[Big A HG]

Just now, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

My grandma could get a hobey vote.

Could?  She did...at least I voted for her.  Scoring machine....no chance at a Richter though, she turns away nothing.

[N of GF]

1 minute ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Haks recruits, you may be pon to something. 
 

Again, I will remind everyone that when we wanted to FIRE HAK!!11! it was agreed upon that his assistant, Brad Berry, was doing all of the heavy lifting when it came to recruiting. That's why it would be okay to FIRE HAK!

[MafiaMan]

6 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

My grandma could get a hobey vote.

You’re grandma wouldn’t be a 4th liner for my Red Army broomball team! 

[brianvf]

12 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

What culture is that?  3 sog in the first period of the biggest game of the season against a mediocre Notre Dame team?  24 shots on goal total with extra time?  Basically zero display of skill at any point in the game? 

The idea of recruiting a team of nail guns who will staple you to the boards all game while cycling the puck endlessly until you turn it over...then sometimes getting an outside shot while the opposing defense just packs it in because you have no skill isn't going to cut it in NCAA hockey anymore.  Our best scoring chance was a penalty shot and our best player couldn't even put in on net while doing absolutely nothing skill-wise to try and beat the goalie.  But hey, we have "culture"...it's won so many other titles for us.  It definitely wasn't because our 2016 title team was full of NHLers that Hak recruited.  

This could be Schloss' game article for tomorrow's Herald.
Sums it up nicely on how today's game went.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, N of GF said:

Again, I will remind everyone that when we wanted to FIRE HAK!!11! it was agreed upon that his assistant, Brad Berry, was doing all of the heavy lifting when it came to recruiting. That's why it would be okay to FIRE HAK!

part of the "fire hak" was that the UND heach coaching job is not a lifetime job appointment....after that amount of time maybe it's time to try someone different?

[tnt]

The disappointing thing for me is that they regressed, rather than progressed.  If it wasn’t for a poor CC team we may have ended the season on a five game losing streak. That, and all the big games where UND fans traveled, Nashville, the Frozen Faceoff and the regional, UND laid an egg.  I was kind of surprised by the attendance at the Frozen Faceoff after UND was out. It appears Duluth’s fan base is expanding, let’s make sure ours doesn’t become jaded.

 

[brianvf]

9 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

My grandma could get a hobey vote.

What's your big beef with Gaber?
He's our best offensive threat (granted, not saying much with this team) as a sophomore.
IMO he has a tremendous upside and potential for his last two (or three) years at UND.  Especially if he gets paired with some players that can complement his speed and higher end skill.
But, hey, if you think he's horrible then that's your opinion.  No worries.