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33 minutes ago, cberkas said:

I'd no, but I've been thinking it needs to happen. 

Pat Micheletti said they should this season

Totally opposed. Let the best 16 teams in who played well all season to earn the bid. 24 teams gets you the undeserving five hundred records, who then have a chance to win it all. Not right, not right al all. 
 

And remind me, why would I give a flying F what Pat Micheletti thinks?

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1 hour ago, cberkas said:

I'd no, but I've been thinking it needs to happen. 

Pat Micheletti said they should this season

NCAA guidelines say a maximum of 25% of participating schools may qualify for NCAA championship in their sport.  I think its a good way to prevent things from getting too watered down.  And too expensive.

You'll have a lot of people at NCAA HQ to convince, and they are going to be thinking of all the other sports that want to water down their championships, and the cost of all those invited teams.  

If you can get D-1 mens hockey up to 96 teams, I think you can get 24 invites to the Tourney.

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okay, here’s my forecast:

Fargo
1. North Dakota vs. 4. Bemidji
2. Wisconsin vs. 3. Minnesota-Duluth

Loveland
1. Minnesota State vs. 4. Omaha
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Lake Superior State

Bridgeport
1. Boston College vs. 4. American Int’l
2. Quinnipiac vs. 3. Boston U. 

Albany
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Providence
2. Massachusetts vs. 3. Michigan

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4 minutes ago, ND_Texan said:


okay, here’s my forecast:

Fargo
1. North Dakota vs. 4. Bemidji
2. Wisconsin vs. 3. Minnesota-Duluth

Loveland
1. Minnesota State vs. 4. Omaha
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Lake Superior State

Bridgeport
1. Boston College vs. 4. American Int’l
2. Quinnipiac vs. 3. Boston U. 

Albany
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Providence
2. Massachusetts vs. 3. Michigan

Forgetting St Lawrence. They won ECAC. 

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4 minutes ago, ND_Texan said:


okay, here’s my forecast:

Fargo
1. North Dakota vs. 4. Bemidji
2. Wisconsin vs. 3. Minnesota-Duluth

Loveland
1. Minnesota State vs. 4. Omaha
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Lake Superior State

Bridgeport
1. Boston College vs. 4. American Int’l
2. Quinnipiac vs. 3. Boston U. 

Albany
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Providence
2. Massachusetts vs. 3. Michigan

St. Lawrence got an auto bid for ecac. 

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4 hours ago, cberkas said:

This is going to be the season that starts the talk to expand to 24 teams

There aren't technically even enough teams to require a 16 team tournament. 24 isn't happening for years, if ever. There would need to be close to 100 teams to make that a possibility.

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Tough to distribute the HEA teams to avoid first round matchups which I assume they still try to avoid.  This only has 6 teams flying which it sounds like ncaa is hellbent on. Fargo regional is brutal for bracket integrity.  In a perfect would I'd flip Lake St and St. Lawrence and Mankato and UMass. 

 

Fargo

UND/Lake St.

Minnesota St/Minnesota Duluth 

Loveland

Minnesota/Omaha

St. Cloud/Providence 

Bridgeport 

BC/AIC

Q'pac/BU

Albany

Wisconsin/St. Lawrence 

UMass/Michigan

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10 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

Tough to distribute the HEA teams to avoid first round matchups which I assume they still try to avoid.  This only has 6 teams flying which it sounds like ncaa is hellbent on. Fargo regional is brutal for bracket integrity.  In a perfect would I'd flip Lake St and St. Lawrence and Mankato and UMass. 

 

Fargo

UND/Lake St.

Minnesota St/Minnesota Duluth 

Loveland

Minnesota/Omaha

St. Cloud/Providence 

Bridgeport 

BC/AIC

Q'pac/BU

Albany

Wisconsin/St. Lawrence 

UMass/Michigan

You have Wisconsin hopping Mankato into a 1 seed?

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2 hours ago, ND_Texan said:


okay, here’s my forecast:

Fargo
1. North Dakota vs. 4. Bemidji
2. Wisconsin vs. 3. Minnesota-Duluth

Loveland
1. Minnesota State vs. 4. Omaha
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Lake Superior State

Bridgeport
1. Boston College vs. 4. American Int’l
2. Quinnipiac vs. 3. Boston U. 

Albany
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Providence
2. Massachusetts vs. 3. Michigan

If St Lawrence is #16 seed then UND vs St Lawrence if integrity is observed and you still have no interconference match ups in first round.

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How I think it will be

UND vs. Bemidji St.  and Mankato St. vs. UMD

BC vs. St. Lawrence an Michigan vs. Quinnipiac

Minnesota vs. UNO and SCSU vs. LSSU

Massachusetts vs. AIC and Wisconsin vs. BU

 

How it should be

UND vs. St. Lawrence and Michigan vs. Quinnipiac

BC vs. UNO and Mankato vs. UMD

Minnesota vs. Bemidji St. and SCSU vs. BU

Massachusetts vs. AIC and Wisconsin vs. LSSU

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2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Gonna cheat and just say Omaha, St L and Bemidji are the three X's.

#13 is Lake Sup St, #16 St Lawrence, #12 AIC.  I am putting Bemidji State in as at large and Putting Providence as my other at large pick getting in solely on eastern bias.  Everything else I ditto Brad Schlossman's pics on.

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https://www.uscho.com/2021/03/21/final-bracketology-inching-closer-to-finding-out-which-16-teams-will-play-for-the-2021-national-college-hockey-championship/

 

Fargo Regional:
Connecticut vs. North Dakota
Bemidji State vs. Minnesota Duluth

Loveland Regional:
Lake Superior vs. Minnesota
St. Cloud State vs. Michigan

Albany Regional:
AIC vs. Massachusetts
Boston University vs. Minnesota State

Bridgeport Regional:
St. Lawrence vs. Boston College
Quinnipiac vs. Wisconsin

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Autobids:  UND, MN, Lake St, U Mass, St Lawrence, AIC.

Easy to Say in  / Locks:  SCSU, UMD, WI, MI, MSU-M, BC, BU, Q

Leaves two spots for what I see as a bubble, with 5 teams I think the Committee will consider:  UNO, BGSU, Bemidji, Providence, Army.   I believe UNO and Providence will be in.

I believe the Committee will adhere to traditional "band integrity" (top 4 teams get #1 seeds, next 4 get #2 etc).  They've said that.   As it turns out, I think they will decide to fly teams - a couple extra - to maintain band integrity.  (3 of my 4 #4 seeds are Eastern, and 3 of my four #1 are Western).

West / Loveland:  

1. MSU-Mankato vs 4. UNO   

2. Wisconsin vs 3. UMD

Midwest / Fargo

1. UND vs 4. AIC

2. SCSU vs. 3. Michigan

East / Bridgeport

1. MN vs 4. Providence

2. U Mass vs 3. Lake St

NE / Albany

1. BC vs 4. St Lawrence

2. Quinnipiac vs 3. BU

Geographic balance 9 West 7 East.

Conference balance 4 NCHC, 3 Big Ten, 2 WCHA.  4 Hockey East, 2 ECAC (ugh) and 1 Atlantic

Flights:  7 teams flying (assuming Omaha chooses to bus).   With the bands above, that's the minimum.  If they stop seeding regions by band then all bets are off.  

P.S.  I'm sure I will look at this tomorrow morning and chuckle at how far off I was.

 

 

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I did straight up bracket integrity based on my ranking of teams. Switched Providence and UNO for some East/West thing. 

Fargo

UND/St Lawrence 

Michigan/UMD

Bridgeport:

BC/AIC

SCSU/Quinnipiac

Loveland:

Minny/UNO

Wisco/Boston U

Albany

Mankato/Providence

UMass/Lake St

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