Jerseys

[SiouxHawkGuy]

5 minutes ago, Green Banner said:

Can we just accept that the hawk is here to stay. I don't like it either but what you going to do

Sarcasm. Looks nice above the last name. Would be cool to see on the helmets. 

[The Sicatoka]

I'd just like to be consistent on "base" helmets (all sports, save for SB batting helmets) across the board: 

- green
- ND hawk logo on both sides
- UND at top middle of mask
- number at back middle

[FightingSU]

31 minutes ago, SiouxForever said:

To be a fly on the wall closing/tracking sales at the Sioux Shop today…

Got one ordered. 

Right! Got mine ordered too!

[FightingSU]

35 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

I'm asking a trademark question. If you don't own it and protect it ... 

that’s a good point, something to consider. Maybe we should trademark it. 

[Siouxperfan7]

55 minutes ago, tnt said:

And Zags isn't Gonzaga's nickname.  Get over it!

That's dumb too.  

Fighting Hawks is our nickname.  Get over it!  (See, it goes both ways )

[FightingSU]

49 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Sarcasm. Looks nice above the last name. Would be cool to see on the helmets. 

I don’t mind the way it looks on the back. Sometimes it grows on me, sometimes I just hate it. Idk. I will never like it as much as the Sioux logo and I will stubbornly old onto the Sioux name. But I will go on record saying that on the back on these jerseys. It looks kinda sharp. I also bought one of these. But I don’t own a hawks jersey 

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

A few reasons Zags works:

1. Monosyllabic, fun, rolls easily off the tongue. 

2. Plural; singular sounding nicknames tend to suck, or at least be hard to modify for casual use. 

3. People (fans and media) actually use it. 

Nodak is more of a placeholder, something that desperately wants to be a fun alt-identity, but isn't. 

Try it with North Carolina. Everybody loves "Carolina" and the "Heels," but has anyone ever used "Nocar"? 

"Daks" would be closer, but still doesn't flow because people say "Duh-Kota" and not "Daa-kota." 

Great monikers happen, but cannot be forced. 

[Frozen4sioux]

5 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:

A few reasons Zags works:

1. Monosyllabic, fun, rolls easily off the tongue. 

2. Plural; singular sounding nicknames tend to suck, or at least be hard to modify for casual use. 

3. People (fans and media) actually use it. 

Nodak is more of a placeholder, something that desperately wants to be a fun alt-identity, but isn't. 

Try it with North Carolina. Everybody loves "Carolina" and the "Heels," but has anyone ever used "Nocar"? 

"Daks" would be closer, but still doesn't flow because people say "Duh-Kota" and not "Daa-kota." 

Great monikers happen, but cannot be forced. 

Well that just happened sweetheart

[streetsahead]

1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Nodak is not our nickname. 

I don't understand this. It's a  relatively common nickname for the state of North Dakota (see Nodak Electric or Nodak Mutual Insurance Company)

Related - The University of California, Berkeley Golden Bears are often referred to (including on uniforms) as Cal. Cal isn't their nickname and I also don't think it's an attempt to do an end-around on the Golden Bears. I understand the issues at play here but personally I think it's reading too much into this to assume it's an attempt to get around Fighting Hawks. The logo is on the jerseys just like it is now. However instead of North Dakota it says Nodak (short for North Dakota).

[Frozen4sioux]

2 minutes ago, streetsahead said:

I don't understand this. It's a  relatively common nickname for the state of North Dakota (see Nodak Electric or Nodak Mutual Insurance Company) f

Related - The University of California, Berkeley Golden Bears are often referred to (including on uniforms) as Cal. Cal isn't their nickname and I also don't think it's an attempt to do an end-around on the Golden Bears. I understand the issues at play here but personally I think it's reading too much into this to assume it's an attempt to get around Fighting Hawks. The logo is on the jerseys just like it is now. However instead of North Dakota it says Nodak (short for North Dakota).

Nodak is part of UND legacy, has been for 100 years.

[SIOUXFAN97]

if REA cared they could create a black "nodak" uniform for each team...male and female...or just do hockey only...again.

[streetsahead]

6 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Nodak is part of UND legacy, has been for 100 years.

Right, which is why I don't find it odd at all to have it on a jersey.

[The Sicatoka]

2 hours ago, FightingSU said:

that’s a good point, something to consider. Maybe we should trademark it. 

A simple search of the USPTO(.gov) office says someone already has ... and it's not explicitly UND. And the lists of items they use it on reads like what UND lists for where it uses its trademarks. Very interesting. 

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:598odx.3.1  

EDIT: Stable link -> https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=90202844&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch 

 

PS - Can neither confirm nor deny this is footage of The Sicatoka celebrating the first time ever that he beat @nodak651on a public info search.  

[FightingSU]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

A simple search of the USPTO(.gov) office says someone already has ... and it's not explicitly UND. 

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:598odx.3.1 

Need to do some research into who owns NODAK LLC, interesting...

 

the time frame is also interesting being it was only a little over a year ago...

 

What about NODAKS? Would that be to similar?

[tnt]

22 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:

A few reasons Zags works:

1. Monosyllabic, fun, rolls easily off the tongue. 

2. Plural; singular sounding nicknames tend to suck, or at least be hard to modify for casual use. 

3. People (fans and media) actually use it. 

Nodak is more of a placeholder, something that desperately wants to be a fun alt-identity, but isn't. 

Try it with North Carolina. Everybody loves "Carolina" and the "Heels," but has anyone ever used "Nocar"? 

"Daks" would be closer, but still doesn't flow because people say "Duh-Kota" and not "Daa-kota." 

Great monikers happen, but cannot be forced. 

Plenty of announcers in the past have called us Nodak.  

[FightingSU]

8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if REA cared they could create a black "nodak" uniform for each team...male and female...or just do hockey only...again.

That would be cool, I think part of doing it for hockey is that they know they will sell almost instantly.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, FightingSU said:

That would be cool, I think part of doing it for hockey is that they know they will sell almost instantly.

have 2 people from every sport we have unveil the new black "nodak" jerseys at the union one day and announce the series they will be wearing them....

but hockey.............

[tnt]

30 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:

A few reasons Zags works:

1. Monosyllabic, fun, rolls easily off the tongue. 

2. Plural; singular sounding nicknames tend to suck, or at least be hard to modify for casual use. 

3. People (fans and media) actually use it. 

Nodak is more of a placeholder, something that desperately wants to be a fun alt-identity, but isn't. 

Try it with North Carolina. Everybody loves "Carolina" and the "Heels," but has anyone ever used "Nocar"? 

"Daks" would be closer, but still doesn't flow because people say "Duh-Kota" and not "Daa-kota." 

Great monikers happen, but cannot be forced. 

Just curious if UND is having problems selling out of other merchandise and having to restock despite a big price tag.   

[KSSioux]

13 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

A simple search of the USPTO(.gov) office says someone already has ... and it's not explicitly UND. 

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:598odx.3.1 

I have numerous patents and have trademarked a product name under a name that existed in the past.  Trademarking a name like Nodak's would be pretty simple for the university, and it should be done.  Even if there is a business that uses the name, this is a unique and different use of the name and likely would not be challenged.  To those that are opposed to the use of Nodak as an alternative, please look at who the performance center is named after and how he wore a "NODAK" track uniform.  It has been used in the past and is a good alternate in my opinion.

[The Sicatoka]

14 minutes ago, FightingSU said:

What about NODAKS? Would that be to similar?

I believe you "own" plurals with the singular. (Lawyers will correct me.) 

[The Sicatoka]

23 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if REA cared they could create a black "nodak" uniform for each team...male and female...or just do hockey only...again.

Not close enoug for ya? 

Note where the Hawk is even ... 

 

[The Sicatoka]

21 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

A simple search of the USPTO(.gov) office says someone already has ... and it's not explicitly UND. And the lists of items they use it on reads like what UND lists for where it uses its trademarks. Very interesting. 

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:598odx.3.1  

 

PS - Can neither confirm nor deny this is footage of The Sicatoka celebrating the first time ever that he beat @nodak651on a public info search.  

Pondering this more ... would UND so sly, devious, and cunning as to hire a firm to trademark the name quietly under an agreement to later transfer the ownership ... 

[FightingSU]

2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Not close enoug for ya? 

Note where the Hawk is even ... 

 

These are better than the previous jerseys, and if we can start using the hockey NODAK jerseys more in the rotation, then there would be more uniformity in all programs.

[Green Banner]

So are last years Nashville jerseys still on a ship somewhere off the coast of California?

[The Sicatoka]

3 minutes ago, Green Banner said:

So are last years Nashville jerseys still on a ship somewhere off the coast of California?

Penn State torpedoed that boat.