Time to Boo Berry?

[Oxbow6]

11 hours ago, gfhockey said:

As in chaves words

 

sit back and watch things happen and hold steady about the philosophical approach

That's code for....."Don't bother me. I am going to Walmart to shop for more khakis and oversized hoodies".

 

[Sweethockey]

At what point will Chaves review Berry? There must be some type of an MBO for the highest paid state employee. I know there are incentives for certain achievements, but there’s got to be some minimum benchmarks too. The team’s stock  for entertainment is dropping as fast as crypto!

[siouxweet]

On 2/11/2023 at 1:09 PM, Oldguy said:

If this team does indeed miss the playoffs for a third time under Berry, having been ranked top 5 preseason, then I say get Berry out of here.  Good guy, but I would expect to be fired if I underperformed like that.  The Natty is starting to look like an anomaly, and the norm seems to be missing the playoffs now.

Brad Berry=Mike Eaves

[siouxweet]

1 hour ago, Sweethockey said:

At what point will Chaves review Berry? There must be some type of an MBO for the highest paid state employee. I know there are incentives for certain achievements, but there’s got to be some minimum benchmarks too. The team’s stock  for entertainment is dropping as fast as crypto!

Chaves doesn't have the balls otherwise Bubba would have been gone years ago.  

[fightingsioux4life]

16 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Brad Berry=Mike Eaves

That rings true if this putrid trend continues.

[siouxkid12]

On 1/6/2019 at 6:57 PM, Siouxphan27 said:

Don’t take this constructive criticism the wrong way, but, you guys suck at running things. 

Let's be honest, they don't run anything. He just talks to talk. 

[nodak651]

All I know is I don't want Chaves hiring the next coach. 

[siouxkid12]

Berry has a good relationship with Kris (kisses the ground she walks on) and we all know she runs the hockey program. Berry is safe...

Edited February 15, 2023 by siouxkid12
name was wrong

[nodak651]

31 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

Berry has a good relationship with Kerry (kisses the ground she walks on) and we all know she runs the hockey program. Berry is safe...

This is a good point.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

Maybe she should start the NLI and have players promote her casinos. 

[nodak651]

14 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Maybe she should start the NLI and have players promote her casinos. 

I don't think she has any anymore does she?  If not, they could still promote the Engelstad Foundation though.  I'd like to see Chaves put together a legit NIL deal though - sell jerseys with player names.  Fill the ugly gap in the replica jerseys and players benefit... kill two birds with one stone.  Completely legal and tons of schools are already doing this stuff.  Most schools that UND competes against already have legit NIL deals in place (not collectives) with at least one company.

[tnt]

On 2/11/2023 at 1:32 PM, scpa0305 said:

We need to beef our recruiting, I understand times have changed and the Big10 sure seems to be winning a bulk of the battles but Denver is still pulling in kids. I also think the focus on 5th year guys is hurting us bad too.

I know a guy who sent his kid to Denver and he basically said if you play a skill game go to DU. 

I would argue that the reason we aren't successful is because we seem to be a little softer than we used to be.  When we keep talking "no swagger" on the years we are down, there is a problem in the guys we are recruiting.  We would always have some skill guys and a complement of players that just had an edge and would go through a brick wall for the team.  Everyone would always say that we would be the hardest working team and were just plain hard to play against.  When I look at our roster, there aren't that many players I look at and think their distinguishing characteristic is being tough to play against.   Some of the defensive lapses are due to being mentally lazy, and some from being physically lazy, and those aren't thing usually associated with UND hockey.  Need to find a way to right the ship and truly be a team of "culture"!

[AJS]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

All I know is I don't want Chaves hiring the next coach. 

This times 100. It's frightening how bad he is at his job. 

[Irish]

59 minutes ago, tnt said:

I would argue that the reason we aren't successful is because we seem to be a little softer than we used to be.  When we keep talking "no swagger" on the years we are down, there is a problem in the guys we are recruiting.  We would always have some skill guys and a complement of players that just had an edge and would go through a brick wall for the team.  Everyone would always say that we would be the hardest working team and were just plain hard to play against.  When I look at our roster, there aren't that many players I look at and think their distinguishing characteristic is being tough to play against.   Some of the defensive lapses are due to being mentally lazy, and some from being physically lazy, and those aren't thing usually associated with UND hockey.  Need to find a way to right the ship and truly be a team of "culture"!

Nailed it - And the lapses on defense have not gotten better during the season which frustrates me to no end.  Add in total lack of discipline for stupid penalties and you have this season in a nutshell.  The question is will Berry have enough insight and flexibility to look at what is happening and make changes or will we just more of the same?  

[petey23]

49 minutes ago, tnt said:

I would argue that the reason we aren't successful is because we seem to be a little softer than we used to be.  When we keep talking "no swagger" on the years we are down, there is a problem in the guys we are recruiting.  We would always have some skill guys and a complement of players that just had an edge and would go through a brick wall for the team.  Everyone would always say that we would be the hardest working team and were just plain hard to play against.  When I look at our roster, there aren't that many players I look at and think their distinguishing characteristic is being tough to play against.   Some of the defensive lapses are due to being mentally lazy, and some from being physically lazy, and those aren't thing usually associated with UND hockey.  Need to find a way to right the ship and truly be a team of "culture"!

Pattyn, Prpich, Hextall, Mario, C. Genoway, Radke, Kaip, D. Zajac,  Gaarder, Gardner. Guys other teams hated to play against. They all had enough skill to keep you honest, chirped and agitated a bit and got guys off their game. We have not had that type of player in awhile. 

[The Sicatoka]

2 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Berry has a good relationship with Kerry (kisses the ground she walks on) and we all know she runs the hockey program. Berry is safe...

If you're going to refer to someone ... at least get Kris' name correct. 

And Kris is a CEO trained by her father. Berry's teams/coaching start costing money at the turnstiles ... see ya. 

[Sweethockey]

12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If you're going to refer to someone ... at least get Kris' name correct. 

And Kris is a CEO trained by her father. Berry's teams/coaching start costing money at the turnstiles ... see ya. 

I believe we will see empty seats in the Ralph this weekend.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

We have had lots of empty seats all year already, but tickets are sold so they use sales not butts in seats. 

[1966guy]

He has won the last three league titles has he not?  Is this what have you done for me lately or what?

 

Who would people prefer be hired for this position?

[stoneySIOUX]

26 minutes ago, 1966guy said:

He has won the last three league titles has he not?  Is this what have you done for me lately or what?

 

Who would people prefer be hired for this position?

This is what I'm talking about in the idea of lack of perspective that I talked about in the other thread. We're not all on the same page of what our standard should be. National Championships are the ultimate goal, but it's ignoring the other things. Winning league title shows consistency and the ability to get the team into positions to make runs at winning the big prize.

This season has been a major disappointment with the expectations we all had coming into the year. To me, this whole season reeks of the snowball effect. Our team started to struggle early on causing our players to doubt themselves and overplay the game (consistently bad turnovers, blowing leads, missing assignments), leading to more mistakes and losses, and we haven't been able to right the ship. This season hasn't reflected others, IMO. Unlike the others when we missed the playoffs the two times Bubbs was head coach, this season doesn't reflect a lack of talent, but an inability to overcome challenges. If this continues next year, I'd be concerned about it more. 

I've asked that "who's next" question several times without a response from anyone who's upset about Bubbs and staff. What would that do to guys currently in our pipeline that we're excited about - Perron, Strathmann, Livanavage, Emerson, McInnis, etc.? How about guys like Blake, McLaughlin, Strinden, etc.? Without these questions answered in how they'd make an immediate change, it makes no sense to move on this.

Would we hire Jax? What would that change? How about Karl? I think Karl could be a change of style, but is it a massive change? Who should we be considering? I have yet to hear a constructive discussion about any of this. 

[siouxweet]

36 minutes ago, 1966guy said:

He has won the last three league titles has he not?  Is this what have you done for me lately or what?

 

Who would people prefer be hired for this position?

Since 2016 3 league titles 0 NCAA titles and soon to be 3 non playoff appearances. 

Duluth in that same span 0 league and 2 NCAA and hasn't missed a tournament.

Denver 2 league titles, 2 NCAA and has missed 1 tournament.

It's the green banners that really matter and this will be the third time in his tenure they won't even get to play for one.  

[SIOUXELEVENS]

6 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Since 2016 3 league titles 0 NCAA titles and soon to be 3 non playoff appearances. 

Duluth in that same span 0 league and 2 NCAA and hasn't missed a tournament.

Denver 2 league titles, 2 NCAA and has missed 1 tournament.

It's the green banners that really matter and this will be the third time in his tenure they won't even get to play for one.  

THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stoneySIOUX]

6 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Since 2016 3 league titles 0 NCAA titles and soon to be 3 non playoff appearances. 

Duluth in that same span 0 league and 2 NCAA and hasn't missed a tournament.

Denver 2 league titles, 2 NCAA and has missed 1 tournament.

It's the green banners that really matter and this will be the third time in his tenure they won't even get to play for one.  

Ok, so what about the second part of the post? Who is truly going to make UND better, in your eyes? Is it worth risking everything in our pipeline and the players we are looking for immediate growth just for the sake of change? Does this season mean we're not right back in contention next year if we keep Bubbs? If we make the change, what does that mean for the short term AND long term?

[The Sicatoka]

Did Berry's team win in 2016 ... or did Hakstol's team with Berry behind the bench? 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

We all know Berry is not going anywhere but has to at least make some changes to his coaching cause it’s not working and the last six years proves that, yes he has league titles but what does that do for you , no auto bid for regular season on playoffs and maybe if that’s what they focus on they don’t have much left for the NCAA tourney.