skateshattrick Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: If he misses the NCCAs next year he has to go......too much at stake long term. Agree. I think it is fair to give Berry one more year, but if they miss again, he needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 19 hours ago, jdub27 said: I mean, that is nothing more than your opinion. Full stop. Considering this was year 1 of a 5 year extension worth over $2.1 million, any early change is going to require some deep pockets. That's what this forum is all about, isn't it? Or maybe it's where you get to tell everybody else the way it is and will be? I mean.......please stop the "Father Knows Best" routine. Full Stop. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Maybe Kris Englestad can help with a potential buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Can you imagine if a newer head coach missed the NCAA tournament three years in a row at Duke North Carolina or Kentucky? Oof Actually it's a trick question they would have been gone after two. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Maybe Kris Englestad can help with a potential buyout. She doesn't care enough about UND to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 hours ago, tnt said: I just don't think they would pull the trigger after next year. I think he has two years to right the ship. It feels like "righting the ship" only applies to taking over a team in a bad spot and then getting them back on track. Shouldn't the leash be shorter, when you're the captain who has steered the luxury cruise ship way off course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, franchise said: It feels like "righting the ship" only applies to taking over a team in a bad spot and then getting them back on track. Shouldn't the leash be shorter, when you're the captain who has steered the luxury cruise ship way off course? Wisconsin was way off course when Eaves. We're not that far off, IMO. I truly think the next two seasons are going to "reverse course" to continue with ship analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Can you imagine if a newer head coach missed the NCAA tournament three years in a row at Duke North Carolina or Kentucky? Oof Actually it's a trick question they would have been gone after two. Kentucky did that after missing the NCAA's once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Maybe the time for something new is here, but something new isn't exactly a coaching change per se..... a triumvirate Hak-Berry-Jackson #makesiouxgreatagain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said: Wisconsin was way off course when Eaves. We're not that far off, IMO. I truly think the next two seasons are going to "reverse course" to continue with ship analogy Wisconsin is still feeling the effects of Eaves, and Berry is UND's version of Eaves. Michigan State just made terrible coaching hires that has put them where they are at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, franchise said: It feels like "righting the ship" only applies to taking over a team in a bad spot and then getting them back on track. Shouldn't the leash be shorter, when you're the captain who has steered the luxury cruise ship way off course? Just waiting for the norovirus to kick in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, cberkas said: Wisconsin is still feeling the effects of Eaves, and Berry is UND's version of Eaves. Michigan State just made terrible coaching hires that has put them where they are at. I'm sorry, but I just don't think the two equate. Eaves last two seasons with Wisconsin: 4-26-5; 8-19-8.... I mean, we weren't good, but that doesn't feel like a proper comparison. I don't believe UND is that far off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Taz Boy Posted March 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2019 Decades ago, a little taz enjoyed Booberry cereal growing up. Made the milk all blue and tasted like sugar-soaked crunchy marshmallows, sugar injected blueberry's, and vanilla cookies coated with sugar. The previous two sentences contain about as much hockey coaching knowledge as the previous 260 posts. Berry stays and wins another title. He is a premier college hockey coach and a fantastic human being. The team this year was exciting to watch, worked extremely hard, and played the best teams in the nation extremely tough. Remove the weekend at Canisius, and y'all would be giddy with NCAA tourney excitement. Many of you need to stick to Fortnite or your robotics club. taz 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Taz Boy said: Many of you need to stick to Fortnite or your robotics club. Not that there's anything wrong with those things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Taz Boy said: Decades ago, a little taz enjoyed Booberry cereal growing up. Made the milk all blue and tasted like sugar-soaked crunchy marshmallows, sugar injected blueberry's, and vanilla cookies coated with sugar. The previous two sentences contain about as much hockey coaching knowledge as the previous 260 posts. Berry stays and wins another title. He is a premier college hockey coach and a fantastic human being. The team this year was exciting to watch, worked extremely hard, and played the best teams in the nation extremely tough. Remove the weekend at Canisius, and y'all would be giddy with NCAA tourney excitement. Many of you need to stick to Fortnite or your robotics club. taz We'd be really nervous at 14 in the pairwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Wisconsin was way off course when Eaves. We're not that far off, IMO. I truly think the next two seasons are going to "reverse course" to continue with ship analogy I sure hope you're right, because if you're not...and this team misses 4 yrs in a row, it's really going to get ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Taz Boy said: Many of you need to stick to Fortnite or your robotics club. taz Funny you bring that up, because watching this year's hockey team was about as exciting as watching a robotics competition......or watching someone else play a video game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, franchise said: I sure hope you're right, because if you're not...and this team misses 4 yrs in a row, it's really going to get ugly. I hope so, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: I'm sorry, but I just don't think the two equate. Eaves last two seasons with Wisconsin: 4-26-5; 8-19-8.... I mean, we weren't good, but that doesn't feel like a proper comparison. I don't believe UND is that far off. They absolutely equate. If Berry misses for a 3rd year he needs to be done. Wisconsin showed what happens when you ride a coach too long and you hit bottom. I don't think Eaves was a bad coach and I don't think Berry is a bad coach, but there comes a point where your record doesn't lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, TheFlop said: They absolutely equate. If Berry misses for a 3rd year he needs to be done. Wisconsin showed what happens when you ride a coach too long and you hit bottom. I don't think Eaves was a bad coach and I don't think Berry is a bad coach, but there comes a point where your record doesn't lie. if you're looking at the two records of those seasons, I'm not sure how you can think those equate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: if you're looking at the two records of those seasons, I'm not sure how you can think those equate. He doesn't want us to deteriorate to that point; I think that is the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: He doesn't want us to deteriorate to that point; I think that is the issue. My point is that I don't think the Eaves comparison helps prove that it's time to get rid of Bubbs. I don't think this team is off the rails. Eaves' program was off the rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said: My point is that I don't think the Eaves comparison helps prove that it's time to get rid of Bubbs. I don't think this team is off the rails. Eaves' program was off the rails. What would qualify as "off the rails" to you? Serious question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said: What would qualify as "off the rails" to you? Serious question. 4-26-5; 8-19-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said: 4-26-5; 8-19-8 And if that happens, some people on here will tell us that because we are flat broke we can't do anything about it anyway (sarcasm). Seriously though, we would need another Blais to come in and clean it up. And as Wisconsin shows us, that won't be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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