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siouxforce19
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This Thome obsession on this board is downright comical.   

Wilbur
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Show of hands for fans who would've taken two ties with Denver before the games this weekend? (Raises hand)

petey23
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Or have refs call obstruction and interference beyond the first 2 weekends.

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  On 1/28/2018 at 5:49 PM, siouxweet said:

The goalie that started before Cam also had a tendency to let in awful goals from time to time.

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Time to time? Each series is more like it. He let in his softy, then usually shut it down. Except with .6 seconds to go. :glare:

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  On 1/28/2018 at 8:08 AM, SiouxFanatic said:

Exactly same thing last season except it is Tomek instead of Thome.

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The difference was the third string goalie/walkon was starting over a drafted goalie last year.

....and there was cries of "What is going on with Tomek?"

And apparently something was as his time with UND was short lived.

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  On 1/29/2018 at 8:27 AM, Cratter said:

The difference was the third string goalie/walkon was starting over a drafted goalie last year.

....and there was cries of "What is going on with Tomek?"

And apparently something was as his time with UND was short lived.

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More of an attitude/never playing thing.  Had nothing to do with talent 

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  On 1/28/2018 at 5:32 PM, GDPritch said:

This Cam obsession (with defending him) on this board is downright comical. 

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Yeah, it's comical to defend a guy who just gave up 4 goals all weekend to DU. Sheesh. He's the better goalie, right now. Is Thome the better talent? Probably. But, right now, Cam is the best goaltender on our team.

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  On 1/29/2018 at 6:16 PM, stoneySIOUX said:

Yeah, it's comical to defend a guy who just gave up 4 goals all weekend to DU. Sheesh. He's the better goalie, right now. Is Thome the better talent? Probably. But, right now, Cam is the best goaltender on our team.

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By what metric?

I'm not saying Thome should play from here on out, or that he's a huge upgrade from Johnson, but I also don't think that Johnson with his play this year (the guy has a .906 SV%) should automatically be the guy. Johnson played well this weekend and I'm all for starting him Friday against CC, but if he has a bad game and Thome plays well the next night, just don't automatically start Johnson after that.

 

Edit: Play the best goalie, regardless of class, I'm just not convinced Johnson is better.

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I haven't seen Schlossman advocating for a longer suspension for Cole Smith, or that the NCHC isn't doing their job protecting players.  Does he believe that it is only in the NHL that it is a problem, or is it he doesn't want to bite the hands that feed him?   

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  On 1/29/2018 at 7:22 PM, AJS said:

By what metric?

I'm not saying Thome should play from here on out, or that he's a huge upgrade from Johnson, but I also don't think that Johnson with his play this year (the guy has a .906 SV%) should automatically be the guy. Johnson played well this weekend and I'm all for starting him Friday against CC, but if he has a bad game and Thome plays well the next night, just don't automatically start Johnson after that.

 

Edit: Play the best goalie, regardless of class, I'm just not convinced Johnson is better.

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Definitely a good post.  If all the boys are healthy, I’d give Thome a game in CC.  Friday night.

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  On 1/29/2018 at 7:29 PM, tnt said:

I haven't seen Schlossman advocating for a longer suspension for Cole Smith, or that the NCHC isn't doing their job protecting players.  Does he believe that it is only in the NHL that it is a problem, or is it he doesn't want to bite the hands that feed him?   

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Haha I was waiting for something like this.

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  On 1/29/2018 at 7:22 PM, AJS said:

By what metric?

I'm not saying Thome should play from here on out, or that he's a huge upgrade from Johnson, but I also don't think that Johnson with his play this year (the guy has a .906 SV%) should automatically be the guy. Johnson played well this weekend and I'm all for starting him Friday against CC, but if he has a bad game and Thome plays well the next night, just don't automatically start Johnson after that.

 

Edit: Play the best goalie, regardless of class, I'm just not convinced Johnson is better.

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Their numbers are incredibly similar. My basis of opinion is on his experience and what I've seen of Thome. I like Thome, but he gets out of position a little bit too much for my liking.

I'm absolutely 100% on board with the idea of not HAVING to start Cam. I think his play hasn't been fantastic and that earns Thome some starts. But, I do think Cam is better at the moment and I do think his experience is an important piece. Bubbs trusts Cam.

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  On 1/29/2018 at 8:48 PM, stoneySIOUX said:

Their numbers are incredibly similar. My basis of opinion is on his experience and what I've seen of Thome. I like Thome, but he gets out of position a little bit too much for my liking.

I'm absolutely 100% on board with the idea of not HAVING to start Cam. I think his play hasn't been fantastic and that earns Thome some starts. But, I do think Cam is better at the moment and I do think his experience is an important piece. Bubbs trusts Cam.

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Agreed, unless Cam has a clunker of a game I think you keep starting him. He recovered nicely after that bad goal against, I was sure that would destroy his confidence but he was resilient and was solid for the remainder of the game.  Thome will continue to get better as he has a lot of natural talent but he got exposed @ Denver, overplaying passes and leaving the net 100% open a few times. If it's a player getting a straight up shot on net I'd give Thome they edge right now but any sort of cross ice pass or fake shot Cam is a much better goalie right now. 

DISCLAIMER: This opinion is based on 5+ years of being a shutdown knee hockey goalie in my former years as well as 20+ years of coaching college and NHL goalies...from my couch

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  On 1/29/2018 at 6:16 PM, stoneySIOUX said:

Yeah, it's comical to defend a guy who just gave up 4 goals all weekend to DU. Sheesh. He's the better goalie, right now. Is Thome the better talent? Probably. But, right now, Cam is the best goaltender on our team.

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Cam gave up FOUR GOALS ALL WEEKEND against a brutal team that returned basically everyone from a national championship team?  He's lucky to be the goalie for the Delta Tau Delta intramural team let alone the Fighting Hawks!

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