Oxbow6 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Some people don't like it that the WMU guy has been there too long. Others complain that Elliot hasn't been at one job long enough. Obviously, you can't have it both ways. So do we look for someone in the middle of the spectrum? I'd take someone who has stayed the course (WMU guy) vs. someone who is looking for greener pastures at every turn (Elliot) any day of the week. Elliot will be a train wreck and a short termer if she's the one chosen. There's a reason she is at UTSA and got bypassed for the AD spot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 The new UTSA AD is formerly the AD at NAU. Talk about embarrassing for Elliot. She almost has to get a new job now. NAU doesn t have fan support or an endowment, yet has double the enrollment of UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: She still isn't my top candidate but she has plenty of experience in the budget portion of her previous jobs along with overseeing quite a few people in her previous jobs. I get (one of) the reasons people don't like her is the amount of jobs she's had. She addressed that by pointing out a handful were term jobs (2 Olympic appointments and some fundraising projects). Frankly, her experience is easily the most impressive of the 3 who have interviewed so far, which by no means makes her the best candidate but is probably the main difference she has. I guess you've made a reasonable argument for her. Now if she can commit to being at the Alerus for FB games and do push-ups like one of her predecessors I'm sold! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 This guy is really quite impressive. Appears to bring so many qualities to the table (if not just energy and critical thought) that the UND AD chair has been missing the past 10 years: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: This guy is really quite impressive. Appears to bring so many qualities to the table (if not just energy and critical thought) that the UND AD chair has been missing the past 10 years: I think it comes down to either this guy or the WMU guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: She still isn't my top candidate but she has plenty of experience in the budget portion of her previous jobs along with overseeing quite a few people in her previous jobs. I get (one of) the reasons people don't like her is the amount of jobs she's had. She addressed that by pointing out a handful were term jobs (2 Olympic appointments and some fundraising projects). Frankly, her experience is easily the most impressive of the 3 who have interviewed so far, which by no means makes her the best candidate but is probably the main difference she has. Also, she admits to being the type of person that if someone said she should take this or that job she would say "Sure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: Idc how the new ad is but as much o want jones gone too the new ad is going to do any knee jerk reactions in first year to risky for him to do that. He gives jones and brew one more year to prove them selves Thanks for the headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: The new UTSA AD is formerly the AD at NAU. Talk about embarrassing for Elliot. She almost has to get a new job now. NAU doesn t have fan support or an endowment, yet has double the enrollment of UND. With that on record, who has the better track record as an AD: the former NAU guy (now at UTSA) or the guy at EWU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: With that on record, who has the better track record as an AD: the former NAU guy (now at UTSA) or the guy at EWU? EWU guy, and it's not close. BTW, the article states that Chaves is making $120,000 and that amount has been quoted here. That was in 2013. He is making $178k now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Only way Chaves is not the AD is if he turns it down. And if that happens, they should go back into the pool of candidates and interview others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: With that on record, who has the better track record as an AD: the former NAU guy (now at UTSA) or the guy at EWU? Your so called “former NAU guy” is actually a dame. Or at least identifies as such. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: With that on record, who has the better track record as an AD: the former NAU guy gal (now at UTSA) or the guy at EWU? Fyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Technically Chaves may be a lame duck as well. His contract expires in May of 2018 and has not been offered an extension, at least publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk said: Technically Chaves may be a lame duck as well. His contract expires in May of 2018 and has not been offered an extension, at least publicly. From the EWU message board they would like to keep Chaves and let their President go. I listened to the first few minutes of the video above and it sounds like Chaves and Kennedy had much the same views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: Your so called “former NAU guy” is actually a dame. Or at least identifies as such. This I did not know and wrongly assumed. My apologies to Madam AD @ UTSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: This I did not know and wrongly assumed. My apologies to Madam AD @ UTSA. No worries. I saw her interviewed once during halftime of an NAU football game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk said: EWU guy, and it's not close. BTW, the article states that Chaves is making $120,000 and that amount has been quoted here. That was in 2013. He is making $178k now. Thanks for doing your homework on this. I didn't think it was possible that he could only be making $120K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: This guy is really quite impressive. Appears to bring so many qualities to the table (if not just energy and critical thought) that the UND AD chair has been missing the past 10 years: Thanks for posting this. He was my preference. At watching this, he is absolutely my preference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SiouxFallsSioux/Hawk said: EWU guy, and it's not close. BTW, the article states that Chaves is making $120,000 and that amount has been quoted here. That was in 2013. He is making $178k now. If the salary difference isn't that big, it is more of a plus in my mind, meaning it is more about the opportunity and not necessarily just a pay raise. The more I read his bio, the more encouraged I am about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: If the salary difference isn't that big, it is more of a plus in my mind, meaning it is more about the opportunity and not necessarily just a pay raise. The more I read his bio, the more encouraged I am about him. He looks impressive....ready to roll up his sleeves, had to follow after some B.B. mess so that is good experience.... jumped around a little bit the last stint is 7 or 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Northeastern hired there new ad. They poached Oakland’s ad away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Anyone make the Chaves hearing? Great weather for his visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 4 hours ago, UND Fan said: Thanks for posting this. He was my preference. At watching this, he is absolutely my preference! I am not understanding the man crush on Chaves. I listened to about half, seems good with a slight bit of heard it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 All the candidates were good and had strengths. The one today is the front runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: I'd take someone who has stayed the course (WMU guy) vs. someone who is looking for greener pastures at every turn (Elliot) any day of the week. Elliot will be a train wreck and a short termer if she's the one chosen. There's a reason she is at UTSA and got bypassed for the AD spot. If she secured $30 million for a football stadium before she left, like she did at Stanford, would it be all that bad? Not sayin she should be hired, but there is such a Chaves vs Mannausau discussion going on, there are reasons for each of these candidates to be finalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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