UND to cut women's hockey

[jdub27]

56 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Unfortunately, we have invested big $$$$$ into a practice facility big enough for football. 

How is this unfortunate? Also, while a large amount of money was invested, it was private donations, not UND investing the money. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

Not anymore I guess.

my favorite is canadians telling us americans about schollies and opportunties!!! what kind of opportunities are there up in neepawa?

[tnt]

13 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

my favorite is canadians telling us americans about schollies and opportunties!!! what kind of opportunities are there up in neepawa?

Another thing is UND paid for her education which isn't cheap.  How often was she out of the lineup over her years here playing for the Canadian National team.  Would imagine some of those games missed hurt our chances for the NCAA tournament, but then again UND's program was around to get players on National teams.  

 

[cberkas]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

As for cutting football, that is something that would have had to happen around the time we moved up to Division I (after Dale Lennon left to go to Southern Illinois). That is what Omaha did. Unfortunately, we have invested big $$$$$ into a practice facility big enough for football. Also, the program is on the upswing thanks to Bubba and his staff. This is an option that is no longer open to us.

That has really hurt Omaha by making that deal with Nebraska.

[fightingsioux4life]

41 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

How is this unfortunate? Also, while a large amount of money was invested, it was private donations, not UND investing the money. 

It is unfortunate for people who think cutting football is a good idea. It destroys their argument.

[UND1983]

Listening to the women's players interviewed on MacTalk is mind blowing.  They are the single most delusional program in UND history.

Anybody who listened to that interview would probably think they are Minnesota or Wisconsin.  

They are currently waiting on a number to save their program.  They know the number, we all know the number.  But, they are apparently waiting to hear it confirmed.

[Siouxphan27]

12 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Listening to the women's players interviewed on MacTalk is mind blowing.  They are the single most delusional program in UND history.

Anybody who listened to that interview would probably think they are Minnesota or Wisconsin.  

They are currently waiting on a number to save their program.  They know the number, we all know the number.  But, they are apparently waiting to hear it confirmed.

Now, when you say number....  you're talking about number of Olympians....right? 

[UND1983]

3 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:

Now, when you say number....  you're talking about number of Olympians....right? 

No.  Not at all.  Was talking about number of athletes representing UND in the World Championships right now.  Worldwide exposure.  

[Shawn-O]

Kennedy has come back with a number.  

[MafiaMan]

28 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

No.  Not at all.  Was talking about number of athletes representing UND in the World Championships right now.  Worldwide exposure.  

In most years, we don't even know the World Championships are even going on - womens OR mens.  This year, apparently the womens tournament is drawing Super-Bowl like ratings and is the biggest tournament since the 1980 Olympics.  

[ArchyAlum11]

15 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

Lemme guess...another former North Dakotan who grew up in Grand Forks, Fargo, or Bismarck, who feels that anything west of New Salem Sue may as well be gifted to Montana.  Not all of us dumb country folk who grew up in the SW corner of the state were or would be thrilled with the idea of going to college more than 100+ miles away from home.  

The idea of closing entire universities and colleges so we can fund a floundering athletics program for roughly 30 athletes at the flagship school is so preposterous, it doesn't even merit discussion.

I mostly just looked at the student to facility ratio, and proximity to other schools. But you have really only a few choices in this option, either increase revanue (More taxes). Cut programs at all the insitutions, or cut one or more of the other institutions

[Cratter]

55 minutes ago, ArchyAlum11 said:

I mostly just looked at the student to facility ratio, and proximity to other schools. But you have really only a few choices in this option, either increase revanue (More taxes). Cut programs at all the insitutions, or cut one or more of the other institutions

5% of the state budget for all those colleges combined.

Where will that five percent go next time then. The revenue will go somewhere...Instead of supporting the small North Dakota town economy and educating people, it'll be used to help Fargo grow using more LSS (that's 4 U oxbow;)?

Mayville would probably immediately go into a recession. Less immediate quality of life for those residents who enjoy watching a local college football game outdoors in October. Count a business or four to close. 

Are you for the closing of the GFAFB also to save a few bucks?

 

[ArchyAlum11]

45 minutes ago, Cratter said:

5% of the state budget for all those colleges combined.

Where will that five percent go next time then. The revenue will go somewhere...Instead of supporting the small North Dakota town economy and educating people, it'll be used to help Fargo grow using more LSS (that's 4 U oxbow;)?

Mayville would probably immediately go into a recession. Less immediate quality of life for those residents who enjoy watching a local college football game outdoors in October. Count a business or four to close. 

Are you for the closing of the GFAFB also to save a few bucks?

 

 

 

A valid point to be sure. Personally, I would be all for a modest tax increase if it meant better funding all the institutions, even if the athletic programs in question still were cut. The sSmaller schools I'm sure could use the additional funding, but even UND and NDSU could use those funds to renovate various campus buildings and systems, to say nothing of funding more research. However, ND would likely never vote for this.

[SWSiouxMN]

16 hours ago, tnt said:

I still go back to the question of how some people on here were certain this was going to happen, but Idalski had no clue?. Yes, they were a top ten program every year, but people were becoming more and more disinterested. When you're not scoring many goals, and there is no physical play, it just isn't exciting to watch. 

I think he really did know that it was a strong possibility of this occurring.  I don't think he felt that with an administration that is only 15 months in and an AD who is hockey friendly (not saying that as a slight btw)  they would actually do it.   Kennedy and Faison called his bluff.

Looking back at the articles in the Herald over the past few months and decisions from the Pres and AD, they did tip their hand on what they were doing once you put it all together.

[gfhockey]

Idalski said he knew it was coming. Just didn't want to admit it

[jdub27]

19 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

Looking back at the articles in the Herald over the past few months and decisions from the Pres and AD, they did tip their hand on what they were doing once you put it all together.

The number that came out that was needed for the second round of cuts and the hiring of the Title IX consultants/lawyers was a dead giveaway. It just came down to whether they got sufficient answers and they had the guts to do what makes sense financially instead of trying to not rock the boat too much.

[geaux_sioux]

I'm quite certain they covered their asses and then some with these cuts. No straws left to grasp.

[SWSiouxMN]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4246201-und-says-womens-hockey-swimming-cuts-are-final#.WOVghKjzAqA.twitter

That's just mind-blowing, 60 million? 

 

[cberkas]

6 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4246201-und-says-womens-hockey-swimming-cuts-are-final#.WOVghKjzAqA.twitter

That's just mind-blowing, 60 million? 

 

Well at least there's a number and that number is $60 million.

That would cover women's hockey and swimming and diving. 

[geaux_sioux]

19 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4246201-und-says-womens-hockey-swimming-cuts-are-final#.WOVghKjzAqA.twitter

That's just mind-blowing, 60 million? 

 

It's less than $10 million/Olympian. What a deal

[geaux_sioux]

"We just want a number. All we want is a number"............................. "We just want a smaller number..."

[KoolGuy2K]

58 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4246201-und-says-womens-hockey-swimming-cuts-are-final#.WOVghKjzAqA.twitter

That's just mind-blowing, 60 million? 

 

Well that wraps up this thread. 

[The Sicatoka]

57 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Well at least there's a number and that number is $60 million.

That would cover women's hockey and swimming and diving. 

No. Read carefully what they said. 

$60 million: That's just women's hockey. 

[ChrisUND1]

6 minutes ago, KoolGuy2K said:

Well that wraps up this thread. 

 

[Bison101]

So Morehead needed 35 million to endow a men's and women's hockey program, but UND needs 60 million just for women's? Somebody is embellishing just a bit. UND made the right call, but throwing insane BS numbers around will only make things worse. #herecometheHeitkamps