Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: I'm confident. Our OL was very young and we had to rely on true fr at CB. Next year those two will be better and the starter who got injured will be back. The two tr fr WRs will also be better. We lost a couple really good LBs but that is where our depth is best. It should be UNDs most complete team of the D1 era by far. Maybe still a year away from the kind of depth Bubba wants to build but he's close. I trust your football knowledge, you always seem pretty level headed on these things. QB play for you guys is a big reason I have a hard time thinking you'll take a huge leap forward. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I just think his inaccuracy makes it hard for UND to consistently move the ball on good teams. its all speculation of course and infinite variables can change between today and next august, bubba does seem to have the team on the right track, but the big sky in the playoffs really made me take a hard look at UND's schedule and question how far UND really came this year. Not sure any of us have a conclusive answer to that question. UND laying an egg in the playoffs against a team that got absolutely destroyed by the team that you claimed a co championship with certainly made me question how UND would have matched up against EWU. I don't like the transitive game logic, but when one team loses and another team destroys that team it makes you pause a bit. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: I trust your football knowledge, you always seem pretty level headed on these things. QB play for you guys is a big reason I have a hard time thinking you'll take a huge leap forward. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I just think his inaccuracy makes it hard for UND to consistently move the ball on good teams. its all speculation of course and infinite variables can change between today and next august, bubba does seem to have the team on the right track, but the big sky in the playoffs really made me take a hard look at UND's schedule and question how far UND really came this year. Not sure any of us have a conclusive answer to that question. UND laying an egg in the playoffs against a team that got absolutely destroyed by the team that you claimed a co championship with certainly made me question how UND would have matched up against EWU. I don't like the transitive game logic, but when one team loses and another team destroys that team it makes you pause a bit. I don't put much weight in Richmond beating us and getting thrashed at EWU. Richmond quit in the EWU. I think QB play UND comes down to depth. If the new transfer can push Studsrud that will be a great thing for us. At the very least he can be a competent backup and allow the coaches to use the full playbook with Studsrud running instead of just trying to avoid any contact for him. The OL was atrocious to start the year. I believe that's why Studs struggled to start the year. If the OL is as improved as we are expecting it to be that should translate to a better year for Studsrud. Quote
Hardcore Hawk Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I trust your football knowledge, you always seem pretty level headed on these things. QB play for you guys is a big reason I have a hard time thinking you'll take a huge leap forward. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I just think his inaccuracy makes it hard for UND to consistently move the ball on good teams. its all speculation of course and infinite variables can change between today and next august, bubba does seem to have the team on the right track, but the big sky in the playoffs really made me take a hard look at UND's schedule and question how far UND really came this year. Not sure any of us have a conclusive answer to that question. UND laying an egg in the playoffs against a team that got absolutely destroyed by the team that you claimed a co championship with certainly made me question how UND would have matched up against EWU. I don't like the transitive game logic, but when one team loses and another team destroys that team it makes you pause a bit. Although, if you remember, UND dominated the first half of the Richmond game. The second half was reversed. I think if UND could have made some on-the-fly adjustments, it'd be a vastly different result. UND could have very easily dominated Richmond the same way EWU did 1 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: I don't put much weight in Richmond beating us and getting thrashed at EWU. Richmond quit in the EWU. I think QB play UND comes down to depth. If the new transfer can push Studsrud that will be a great thing for us. At the very least he can be a competent backup and allow the coaches to use the full playbook with Studsrud running instead of just trying to avoid any contact for him. The OL was atrocious to start the year. I believe that's why Studs struggled to start the year. If the OL is as improved as we are expecting it to be that should translate to a better year for Studsrud. I'll trust you, as I said, you'll call a spade a spade and if you believe they'll be competing for the conference title and then some next year, I'll defer to your knowledge of the program. Because I believe you will be honest I'll ask you: how did the big sky's performance in the playoffs change(if at all) how you felt about UND's season? Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hardcore Hawk said: Although, if you remember, UND dominated the first half of the Richmond game. The second half was reversed. I think if UND could have made some on-the-fly adjustments, it'd be a vastly different result. UND could have very easily dominated Richmond the same way EWU did I hear you, but I've also been on the other side of that conversation and Richmond was probably thinking if they had shown up in the first half they would have blown UND out. The result of a game stands as it's own evidence IMO, anything else is usually observer bias, in my experience. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I'll trust you, as I said, you'll call a spade a spade and if you believe they'll be competing for the conference title and then some next year, I'll defer to your knowledge of the program. Because I believe you will be honest I'll ask you: how did the big sky's performance in the playoffs change(if at all) how you felt about UND's season? Weber wasn't that good and played a vastly superior team. Poly ran into weather that killed their style of play. They wouldn't have made a deep run because of their defense though. EWU was doing their typical EWU thing and it took a miracle catch to beat them against a very good team. Can't blame the weather here. UND was beating the piss out of Richmond and then suffered a fate as embarrassing as erotic asphyxiation. I think SUU would have been a better rep of the Big Sky in the playoffs but still wouldn't have beaten Chatty. It didn't change how I feel about UND's season. We got on a roll. We were missing a couple key pieces. Our fast WR. Our other starting CB. Our stud fr OL who went back to the rez. Our schedule was supposed to be soft as Charmin based on pre season rankings but turned out to be one of the hardest in the conference. Who knows what the schedule strength will be next year? We can guess, but there's no way to predict it. You could probably say that we overachieved. Even still, I expect the team to take another step or two forward next season. 1 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Weber wasn't that good and played a vastly superior team. Poly ran into weather that killed their style of play. They wouldn't have made a deep run because of their defense though. EWU was doing their typical EWU thing and it took a miracle catch to beat them against a very good team. Can't blame the weather here. UND was beating the piss out of Richmond and then suffered a fate as embarrassing as erotic asphyxiation. I think SUU would have been a better rep of the Big Sky in the playoffs but still wouldn't have beaten Chatty. It didn't change how I feel about UND's season. We got on a roll. We were missing a couple key pieces. Our fast WR. Our other starting CB. Our stud fr OL who went back to the rez. Our schedule was supposed to be soft as Charmin based on pre season rankings but turned out to be one of the hardest in the conference. Who knows what the schedule strength will be next year? We can guess, but there's no way to predict it. You could probably say that we overachieved. Even still, I expect the team to take another step or two forward next season. Most people looked to the Weber game as a signature win for UND in 2016. I agree with you they weren't very good. But if that's true, doesnt the take away some of the cache' of beating a playoff team in your mind? In my world a win is a win and you can only beat the teams they put on your schedule, but if those teams end up not being as good as you'd once thought, it has to make you wonder if your record isn't accurately reflecting how great your season was. This isn't a shot at UND either, it's just why I love the playoffs. You don't have to wonder if you are better or worse than your record, you just let the playoffs do the talking. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Most people looked to the Weber game as a signature win for UND in 2016. I agree with you they weren't very good. But if that's true, doesnt the take away some of the cache' of beating a playoff team in your mind? In my world a win is a win and you can only beat the teams they put on your schedule, but if those teams end up not being as good as you'd once thought, it has to make you wonder if your record isn't accurately reflecting how great your season was. This isn't a shot at UND either, it's just why I love the playoffs. You don't have to wonder if you are better or worse than your record, you just let the playoffs do the talking. Comparing this season to the first few in the Big Sky I'll take a win against anyone and be happy. 1 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Just now, geaux_sioux said: Comparing this season to the first few in the Big Sky I'll take a win against anyone and be happy. Fair enough. UND definitely looked better this year than years past. Quote
Dagger Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Is Bison 06 lost or just obsessed with UND? 1 1 Quote
bison73 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dagger said: Is Bison 06 lost or just obsessed with UND? Havent you heard? Anyone posting here that isnt a UND fan is obsessed. Thought you would have gotten the memo. 5 2 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 37 minutes ago, Dagger said: Is Bison 06 lost or just obsessed with UND? Can we just dispense with this juvenile idea that it somehow takes effort to click to a different webpage? Like somehow I'm going out of my way to travel by UNDs house so I can see if you're home. I have a smart phone, I know it's new technology, but maybe by chance you've heard of it? It allows for multiple browsers to be open at any given time. There is a discussion on this website that I'm interested in, I couldn't care less what this site is called or what college affiliation the owner of the site has. You have a thread dedicated to discussion about NDSU and yet don't expect NDSU fans to comment? This has been going on for years, I find it odd how many on this board seem to find it hard to reconcile these facts. 5 2 Quote
Dagger Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 I think it is fair to say that you have a rather abnormally large interest in what goes on at UND. You write on here more than UND fans do. Sometimes you seem to be carrying on a conversation with yourself. Go ahead, continue talking to yourself. 2 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 59 minutes ago, Dagger said: I think it is fair to say that you have a rather abnormally large interest in what goes on at UND. You write on here more than UND fans do. Sometimes you seem to be carrying on a conversation with yourself. Go ahead, continue talking to yourself. Or he doesn't want to be on bisonville with all of the obnoxious group think 1 1 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Dagger said: I think it is fair to say that you have a rather abnormally large interest in what goes on at UND. You write on here more than UND fans do. Sometimes you seem to be carrying on a conversation with yourself. Go ahead, continue talking to yourself. Dont think of it as an interest in UND, it's just an interest in football and this is a good place to have good discussion. Logistically, this site is mobile optimized well and has a great landing page to view the latest discussions. Bisonville, among other reasons that site had fallen out of favor for me, requires a download of an app called tapatalk to post normally, not my style. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Again, this is the internet, don't think of it as an interest in UND, it's just an interest in football and this is a good place to have good discussion. If you look back at my posting history, I think you'll find that the vast majority of my posts revolve around my knowledge and passion for football, not of UND specifically. Bang your arms on your chest. bury your head in the snow. 2 Quote
Bison06 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Bang your arms on your chest. bury your head in the snow. Played a lot of football and follow the game very closely. Many on this board have "knowledge" of the game, this word is being singled out...why? Quote
SiouxVolley Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Like how bozoville and AGS were stating that there was no way the Frisco game would be sold out without SU fans. How did that work? Maybe booze sales were down, but the stadium was far from empty. Yeah, it the end zones weren't full because of construction, but they couldn't have been filled with SU fans anyway. Quote
Gothmog Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 12 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Like how bozoville and AGS were stating that there was no way the Frisco game would be sold out without SU fans. How did that work? Maybe booze sales were down, but the stadium was far from empty. Yeah, it the end zones weren't full because of construction, but they couldn't have been filled with SU fans anyway. Attendance was down ~7,000 compared to last year. My understanding is that construction reduced capacity by about 4,000. Of course there's no way to know how many JMU and YSU fans would attended had seating not been limited by construction. Nevertheless, the stadium was not sold out yesterday, and there's no reason to assume that more people would have attended had the stadium not been under construction. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 17 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Weber wasn't that good and played a vastly superior team. Poly ran into weather that killed their style of play. They wouldn't have made a deep run because of their defense though. EWU was doing their typical EWU thing and it took a miracle catch to beat them against a very good team. Can't blame the weather here. UND was beating the piss out of Richmond and then suffered a fate as embarrassing as erotic asphyxiation. I think SUU would have been a better rep of the Big Sky in the playoffs but still wouldn't have beaten Chatty. It didn't change how I feel about UND's season. We got on a roll. We were missing a couple key pieces. Our fast WR. Our other starting CB. Our stud fr OL who went back to the rez. Our schedule was supposed to be soft as Charmin based on pre season rankings but turned out to be one of the hardest in the conference. Who knows what the schedule strength will be next year? We can guess, but there's no way to predict it. You could probably say that we overachieved. Even still, I expect the team to take another step or two forward next season. Regarding the OL - I can't help but wonder how we would have been with Grady all year and Stockwell healthy for the playoffs. Anchor those tackle spots and the rest of the OL would have filled in really nicely. Our run game for the playoffs could have been special. Quote
Popular Post Siouxphan27 Posted January 8, 2017 Popular Post Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothmog said: Attendance was down ~7,000 compared to last year. My understanding is that construction reduced capacity by about 4,000. Of course there's no way to know how many JMU and YSU fans would attended had seating not been limited by construction. Nevertheless, the stadium was not sold out yesterday, and there's no reason to assume that more people would have attended had the stadium not been under construction. I heard there were just as many people there; they just took up less room. 12 Quote
CMSioux Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Hate feeding the trolls but ...the reason the teams "were down" is because they lost games and UND won theirs. UNI was not a quality win in 2016 for example. A nine game winning streak says something but haters are always haters. 1 Quote
Hayduke Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 16 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Or he doesn't want to be on bisonville with all of the obnoxious group think I believe that to be the case. I enjoy reading our FU fans that come on this site. They usually give good perspective. I said usually. Quote
Bison06 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Hate feeding the trolls but ...the reason the teams "were down" is because they lost games and UND won theirs. UNI was not a quality win in 2016 for example. A nine game winning streak says something but haters are always haters. If that logic held true, with the Bison beating up on pretty much everyone in the MVFC the last 6 years, wouldn't the MVFC have "been down" during those years? Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 20 hours ago, Bison06 said: Again, this is the internet, don't think of it as an interest in UND, it's just an interest in football and this is a good place to have good discussion. If you look back at my posting history, I think you'll find that the vast majority of my posts revolve around my knowledge and passion for football, not of UND specifically. 20 hours ago, Bison06 said: Played a lot of football and follow the game very closely. Many on this board have "knowledge" of the game, this word is being singled out...why? First of all it was two words, and being we’re talking about your knowledge, you don’t have too good a start there. Then follow game closely? You must have good seats. I had season tickets at The Ralph for the first few years right on the glass. I had football tickets up 14 rows, those were much better (not following the game so closely). Therefore, I moved my seats up in hockey, now follow both games very well. You’re obsessed with coming on this site, you troll. And by the way, regarding your first 5 words of your first post above, this is not the internet, it’s Siouxsports.com on the internet, which has rules. Now here you bragged about your knowledge and that you follow closely, like that’s gives you an exemption for trolling??? Give me a break. You may think you don’t troll because you don’t every time, but you do troll and in many instances you put a small trolling smear in your comments, that’s also trolling. I’ve been on Bznvil, they branded me as red. What a gathering and what is that place going to be like when the FB team falters? Want to have a knowledgeable exchange of comments, you’re on the right site. But, if you troll someone will most likely let you know. 2 1 Quote
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