LkvlleUNDFan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Using player names when passing on rumors is a tough call, even when the information sparking the rumor is pretty solid. Like others, I had heard some things about a player departing, but wasn't about to disclose the source or the name of the player. It just didn't seem like the right thing to do. These guys are young adults - emphasis on the young. Minds and circumstances change, so even though it sounded like a done deal it just didn't seem right to attach a name to the rumor. Putting a name out there could easily hurt the situation and almost certainly wouldn't help, so why do it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFMSGT Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Then, why share 50% of the info in the first place? What good does that do anybody other than to make you feel like you know stuff others don't. Again, whether a poster shares 10% or 90%, that's up to them. If the rest of are unable to glean enough info from that, too bad. If we learn want we think we need to learn, then, good for us. But, if I or you take from it that someone is trying to grand stand and act as if they know something that others don't, who cares? Its not that big a deal. I don't. Its an entertainment and info share board. I don't feel dejected if the sun sets and I haven't gotten smarter about UND football and neither should anyone else. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFMSGT Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: GFhockey didn't reveal anything. Ozzie82 did. GFhockey jumped on an assertion that someone else made and acted like he knew it the whole time -- just like he usually does. In the grand scheme of things it all really amounts to a hill of beans. You might not be aware of GFHockey's past history on this site. Quite simply, the apology he's trolling for is not his to ask for. I don't know GFhockey or his post long-term post history, but I also read where Ozzie82 was also unfairly taken to task for posting on this subject. So, if you are saying Ozzie82 is due an apology, I agree 100% with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Why would I want to share the playas name? I thought maybe a chance bubs could get him to stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: Haven't got an apologies yet Are you going to apologize for all the times you were wrong and whatever it was you threw at the wall didn't stick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Are you going to apologize for all the times you were wrong and whatever it was you threw at the wall didn't stick? Of course he isn't. He doesn't need to. Reverse psychology is a powerful tool and he used it to land us Bubba! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Still cant figure out who needs to apologize to gfhockey and why. If anything, apologies should be made to Demon Taylor, Bryce Blair, John Santiago, Keaton Studsrud, et al or any other name that was speculated about in this thread that never had any intention of leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFMSGT Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Still cant figure out who needs to apologize to gfhockey and why. If anything, apologies should be made to Demon Taylor, Bryce Blair, John Santiago, Keaton Studsrud, et al or any other name that was speculated about in this thread that never had any intention of leaving. I can get onboard with this too. If we as adults are going to discuss and post, let's agree to do it responsibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I never named any of those kids leaving. I knew all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, gfhockey said: I never named any of those kids leaving. I knew all along Ok fine, I'm not saying you did specifically. But what is it that you want the apology for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford torgerson Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 This is terrible news on so many fronts. This young man would have grown tremendously over the next three years here and opportunities would have opened for him no matter where he decided to go and what to persue. A huge loss for the team also. I couldn't help but think of Chappel when I heard this news. I don't know what all entered into this defection but it is, i'll call it a lack of a victory, for Bubba to not have solved this one for a better outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 4 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: The defections title was my fault. The thread title is now changed. Thank you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 4 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: This level of attrition is not sustainable if we are going to compete regionally and nationally. What is making players hang it up after one season like this? Or is it just bad luck? Is the ratio of players leaving the team any different than the ratio of the general student population who leave college for whatever their personal reasons may be? My guess, and it's only a guess is that the retention of players for 4 or 5 years is much better than the dropout rate of the average student. Courses can be difficult and college is not for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, dakota said: Is the ratio of players leaving the team any different than the ratio of the general student population who leave college for whatever their personal reasons may be? My guess, and it's only a guess is that the retention of players for 4 or 5 years is much better than the dropout rate of the average student. Courses can be difficult and college is not for everyone. It seems like it is happening more this offseason. Or maybe that is just perception overtaking reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, dakota said: Is the ratio of players leaving the team any different than the ratio of the general student population who leave college for whatever their personal reasons may be? My guess, and it's only a guess is that the retention of players for 4 or 5 years is much better than the dropout rate of the average student. Courses can be difficult and college is not for everyone. The latest 6-year graduation rate I could find for UND is 52%, so I would think the retention of players on the football must be considerably greater than that. All teams have attrition, you guys will survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDL Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Have been following UND football since late 70's and have long thought that the offensive line has been the hardest position to retain recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxfan512 Posted January 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: I never named any of those kids leaving. I knew all along 1 hour ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Ok fine, I'm not saying you did specifically. But what is it that you want the apology for? He did what he always does ... claims he knows something big, but never shares what it is. Then when some big fact comes out he can claim that was what he was talking about. Can't even count how many times we have heard this in this past. Hey gfhockey, you want people to take you seriously and not give you crap ... if you are going to make a big deal about knowing something, then share your "fact" in a clear statement and make your point. Accept when your wrong and others will accept when you're right. What people hate, is making vague statement that could be taken 10 different ways, then being asked for apologies weeks or months after the fact because you now have a basis for how those statements should have been interpreted. Maybe you did know something about who was and was not leaving, but you shared nothing that would ever warrant an apology on this message board. As I mentioned earlier, we need to also keep any and all departures in perspective. This is a team sport and UND will be fine. We have a QB who is making strides, a group of receivers that are improving, and has even more talent coming in, an all american running back, a great defense. Excited to see what this team will do next year. Go Sioux! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 When does the coaching staff usually confirm departures? I'm just surprised that we haven't heard anything concrete on this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I've admitted when I was wrong or didn't have the scoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said: When does the coaching staff usually confirm departures? I'm just surprised that we haven't heard anything concrete on this yet. There still time to enroll. It's not too late to change his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFMSGT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20160112140359528299004 I know this is on another thread, but this is why losing Grady is so important and any other kid from 2015. We need talent, depth and experience to make a serious run; and according to the unofficial projections, we are in position to do damage in the Big Sky and FCS as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford torgerson Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: I've admitted when I was wrong or didn't have the scoop Since you are on the inside on this stuff can you tell us if there is anything to a rumor I heard that some students who are angry about the nickname fiasco would shout racist remarks at Grady on campus? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford torgerson Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: There still time to enroll. It's not too late to change his mind. Excellent point> I'll keep my fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Hartness brothers transferring to MSUM per Izzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Hartness brothers transferring to MSUM per Izzo. Did they finish the season still on the team? I thought I remembered hearing they had quit early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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