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Next man up is right. I think many were just waiting to see Iwarri find the position that best suits his skill-set and have an impact this year in Bubba's system. Coming in, he was considered to be an immediate difference maker, thus the disappointment that he left before we could see his full potential. But, his departure provides an opportunity for someone else to show what they can do. I'm sure there are guys eager to make an impact in 2016.

Is there a good news Grady update????

Some kids were considering other options before the holidays. I guess we are now seeing action be put to words for various reasons. I wish them be best at their next stop. But, not so sure Reed's production facilitated these recent moves, but I hope he continues to produce and stay healthy. I recall reading Smith flashing a NDSU championship ring on his way to his official visit to GF while on the plane. I personally had concerns about maturity after reading that. I am sure he is an overall good kid and his ability will be missed but your head has to be right also.

I agree wholeheartedly with you that losing players hurts in many ways. When I first commented on the topic of player departures ("defections"), I highlighted the need for the coaches to connect and re-connect with players that have already left it all on the field. That wasn't a slight against the coaches or players for that matter. But, just like in our personal lives it is good to cultivate and grow the relationship. Grady is a huge loss. Very huge. But, to me, losing any kid that strapped on a helmet last year, is a huge loss because, by the end of the season chemistry was formed and the team developed an identity and trust among one another. Some kids will leave and have left, but I wouldn't say that any of them have been a "cancer". "Cancerous" type players tend to stick around and cause chaos in the locker room/overstay their welcome and that doesn't appear to be the case with the kids that have departed so far. I also agree that you can't miss what you never had so, to lose a recruit that hasn't played a down, is not too big a deal. Coaches leave schools for better offers so, I don't fault a kid for de-committing to be closer to home, go FBS, potential for more playing time, more scholly money, etc. I'm not going to pay his bills so, he doesn't owe me anything.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20160112140359528299004 I know this is on another thread, but this is why losing Grady is so important and any other kid from 2015. We need talent, depth and experience to make a serious run; and according to the unofficial projections, we are in position to do damage in the Big Sky and FCS as a whole.

I can get onboard with this too. If we as adults are going to discuss and post, let's agree to do it responsibly.

I don't know GFhockey or his post long-term post history, but I also read where Ozzie82 was also unfairly taken to task for posting on this subject. So, if you are saying Ozzie82 is due an apology, I agree 100% with that.

Again, whether a poster shares 10% or 90%, that's up to them. If the rest of are unable to glean enough info from that, too bad. If we learn want we think we need to learn, then, good for us. But, if I or you take from it that someone is trying to grand stand and act as if they know something that others don't, who cares? Its not that big a deal. I don't. Its an entertainment and info share board. I don't feel dejected if the sun sets and I haven't gotten smarter about UND football and neither should anyone else. IMO

Yes, I am perfectly okay. Are you gonna be OK? Just because the guy didn't reveal his source or tell you all that you wanted to hear doesn't make him/her a bad person. I don't care how small GF is. No one that posts on here is obligated to share anything.

If you are waiting for posters to apologize for insinuating that you were maliciously starting rumors without facts or for basically calling you a liar. It's probably not going to happen. That would take people admitting they were wrong for either attacking your character, questioning your integrity or that you simply had accurate information. This is a message board where people say what they want, while at the same time feel they have the right to tell you what you should and should not say. Those are the rules.

When I first posted a remark regarding this topic, I indicated this would be considered a concensus huge loss, but the show must go on.

Next man up is right; however, after watching him play, I think he could play on Sunday. Hope UND lands a kid with his athleticism to play OL.

Bingo. It wasn't/isn't cool to drop names of players or sources; but I was hoping he'd come back.

I think Poole will be a good one before its all said and done. High motor impact player that loves to get after the QB but has speed to be highly effective in coverage.

Just for clarity, how you might feel about me and how I think you feel about me can be two different things. No one said Bubba or his coaches don't factually appreciate the players. I used "me" and "I" simply to illustrate a point. I/me am not one that Bubba should care about. I don't play for UND. Just want to make that perfectly clear.

I don't know if they will change their minds or not after the holidays (I personally hope they do) which I am entitled to my hopes. But to answer your question, the topic was already brought up; I simply commented, then chose to no longer comment. Period.

I'm not the one that brought it up. It was already on the board so I commented on, as is my free will same as is yours. But I also chose to no further comment. Get it?

I too will leave the topic alone for reasons previously mentioned. We will all know soon enough.

I didn't post the names because I am hoping the players have a change of heart and return after the holidays. That's my personal reason for not posting. Maybe that's why the staff hasn't made it public either, but I am just guessing on that one.

I know what you mean.

Yes, the NCAA as whole may disagree with me as they deposit multi-million dollar checks from TV revenue, ticket sales and merchandise. Ha ha

I too heard from reliable sources there are kids leaving or have left the program as of today. But, I, like others, are waiting for UND to acknowledge it. It's only proper, but I will say the names I am hearing are going to be missed. We just have to let the coaching staff take the lead on this. After a pretty good run in 2015, I was afraid this would happen. I will say this though, and its just my 2 cents that don't matter to anyone important; the staff should take the time to reconnect with its current roster and remind them they are appreciated for what they did in 2015. I am hearing some kids feel unappreciated while others just have other goals in life that are competing with football (and school). Getting a kid to commit is great, but building relationships with kids already in your program goes a long way toward recruiting other good kids. I get the sense from reading previous posts that the goal at UND is to keep getting better as a program by bringing in better talent, which from a business standpoint, makes perfect sense. But, I also think if you don't continue to build a relationship with those that have already let blood, sweat and tears for you...defections will continue to happen. And I think some of the kids are feeling that way according to the rumor mill. On the flip side, the kids need to know and understand that college football is a business.

We seem to have some knowledgeable fans on this site (I'm not being sarcastic). Does anyone know if an FCS school/team can petition the NCAA to participate in a bowl game against a FBS school? I just found out today that teams with 5 wins and 7 loses can play in a bowl game at the FBS level. Missouri released a press statement saying they would not accept or seek a bowl bid after going 5-7 this year. NCAA anticipates 2-5 FBS teams with 5 wins will play in a bowl game this year.

Hey Jacksfan29...curb stomping??? "SDSU will be UM, in Missoula."