FCS Playoff Selection Show Thread

[BigGame]

They have so many good losses though, that's what matters.... this year. 

I thought our NDSU loss was bad but it was nothing compared to how NDSU dominated WIU.

[nd1sufan]

So the "7 DI wins" standard is now proven to be fallacy. 

Is this a first move by the FCS to move to a 32 team field? To do that you'd have to take some 6-5 schools. Precedent set.

How about a 9-2 NC A&T or an 8-3 North Carolina Central? Or a 9-2 San Diego or Jacksonville if it all about the number of wins. Have you ever seen an 18-12 major ACC school gat an at large bid over a 26-4 mid major? WIU over UND is the same thing. WIU plays in the toughest FCS conference in the country and was 5-3 in it. They deserve to be in. You may have a case over EIU, but not WIU. They put all 5 MVFC teams on the same side of the bracket because they knew that was the only way to avoid another all MVFC final. They don't want that to happen again.

[SiouxVolley]

How about a 9-2 NC A&T or an 8-3 North Carolina Central? Or a 9-2 San Diego or Jacksonville if it all about the number of wins. Have you ever seen an 18-12 major ACC school gat an at large bid over a 26-4 mid major? WIU over UND is the same thing. WIU plays in the toughest FCS conference in the country and was 5-3 in it. They deserve to be in. You may have a case over EIU, but not WIU. They put all 5 MVFC teams on the same side of the bracket because they knew that was the only way to avoid another all MVFC final. They don't want that to happen again.

Waah!  The MVFC got so shafted that it's criminal. 

[CMSioux]

One benefit of going on a three game win streak was the absence of SU drivel. 

[ClassB]

There are a few teams that are damn glad we are out of it.

Just for the record, this is one of my least favorite statements of all time. Aj Mazzolini is parroting some UM fans saying "no one wants to see us in the post season," and I know SU fans are huge into the "no one wants to be in the fargodome" (which is true). I'd like our defense to develop the mentality that they look forward to the big dogs.

[bison73]

Anybody else feel there are about 8 to many teams in this tournament.An additional or possible 5 games is way to much to ask.

I did not favor the expansion .

[dlsiouxfan]

How about a 9-2 NC A&T or an 8-3 North Carolina Central? Or a 9-2 San Diego or Jacksonville if it all about the number of wins. Have you ever seen an 18-12 major ACC school gat an at large bid over a 26-4 mid major? WIU over UND is the same thing. WIU plays in the toughest FCS conference in the country and was 5-3 in it. They deserve to be in. You may have a case over EIU, but not WIU. They put all 5 MVFC teams on the same side of the bracket because they knew that was the only way to avoid another all MVFC final. They don't want that to happen again.

This post cannot be downgraded enough.  It's obvious you're a total idiot.   So WIU gets a playoff spot for playing in the toughest FCS conference even though they weren't even remotely competitive against NDSU or ISU.  Only a moron NDSU fan and apparently the morons at NCAA headquarter could come up with something so idiotic.

[UNDBIZ]

After it's all said and done, WIU had more "good" losses than we had losses. It stinks, but we never had a chance against a team with that many losses.

[The Sicatoka]

How about a 9-2 NC A&T or an 8-3 North Carolina Central? Or a 9-2 San Diego or Jacksonville if it all about the number of wins. Have you ever seen an 18-12 major ACC school gat an at large bid over a 26-4 mid major? WIU over UND is the same thing. WIU plays in the toughest FCS conference in the country and was 5-3 in it. They deserve to be in. You may have a case over EIU, but not WIU. They put all 5 MVFC teams on the same side of the bracket because they knew that was the only way to avoid another all MVFC final. They don't want that to happen again.

OK then, given the FCS said UND was first out, why'd EIU make the cut? 

[nd1sufan]

And UND with their 61 total yards was competive against NDSU? You are dumb and dumber and dumbest if you think the Fighting Hawks were competive against NDSU. 

[Siouxperman8]

How about a 9-2 NC A&T or an 8-3 North Carolina Central? Or a 9-2 San Diego or Jacksonville if it all about the number of wins. Have you ever seen an 18-12 major ACC school gat an at large bid over a 26-4 mid major? WIU over UND is the same thing. WIU plays in the toughest FCS conference in the country and was 5-3 in it. They deserve to be in. You may have a case over EIU, but not WIU. They put all 5 MVFC teams on the same side of the bracket because they knew that was the only way to avoid another all MVFC final. They don't want that to happen again.

WIU is first team to make playoffs without 7 wins since forever.  Definitely a case to be made that they didn't deserve to be in.

 

Edited November 23, 2015 by Siouxperman8

[Siouxperman8]

And UND with their 61 total yards was competive against NDSU? You are dumb and dumber and dumbest if you think the Fighting Hawks were competive against NDSU. 

you are right. we weren't competitive against NDSU at that time of the year.  

Do you feel WIU was competitive when they gave up a mere 59 in their 59-7 loss to NDSU? 

[nd1sufan]

OK then, given the FCS said UND was first out, why'd EIU make the cut? 

I don't know. You may have a case over EIU, but everybody seems to be talking about a 6 win WIU team getting in as a travesty when it is not. If you aren't going to take strength of schedule and stength of conference into consideration, then you take a 9 win MEAC team or a 9 win Patriot Team over any 7 or 8 win team from another conference.

[The Sicatoka]

you are right. we weren't competitive against NDSU at that time of the year.  

Do you feel WIU was competitive when they gave up a mere 59 in their 59-7 loss to NDSU? 

Easton Stick put the 59 onto WIU. I recall this Wentz fellow playing against UND. 

[UNDBIZ]

WIU got slaughtered by 52 points with ndsu starting a freshman piece of hockey equipment at qb? Ouch. 

[Longtime fan]

 

Edited November 23, 2015 by Longtime fan

[The Sicatoka]

I don't know. You may have a case over EIU, but everybody seems to be talking about a 6 win WIU team getting in as a travesty when it is not. If you aren't going to take strength of schedule and stength of conference into consideration, then you take a 9 win MEAC team or a 9 win Patriot Team over any 7 or 8 win team from another conference.

Your answer, "I don't know," is what I have the hard spot with. Maybe I'm spoiled by the analytic approach of NCAA ice hockey (PWR); maybe I don't like an undefined process because it gives too many openings for back room graft. 

[Westside]

And UND with their 61 total yards was competive against NDSU? You are dumb and dumber and dumbest if you think the Fighting Hawks were competive against NDSU. 

Ok, most on here will admit UND sh*t the bed against ndsu... We took an extremely young team (I believe we started 5 SRs, 1 Jr & 16 FR or Soph's that game) into a extremely hostile environment in the 3rd game of the year & lost by 25... Night & day difference from the UND team in September to November.  The "playoff-ready" Leathernecks came into the fargodome on November 7th (2 weeks ago) & got thumped by 52 points... Were down 38-0 at halftime... So, UND didn't pass your eye test, but WIU did?  Got it.

[UNDBIZ]

34-9

"UND is the worst team we've ever played in the D1 era"

59-7

"WIU is a really good team tho"

Edited November 23, 2015 by UNDBIZ

[The Sicatoka]

WIU got slaughtered by 52 points with ndsu starting a freshman piece of hockey equipment at qb? Ouch. 

I've wondered if his backup is Jacque Straap. 

[nd1sufan]

WIU got slaughtered by 52 points with ndsu starting a freshman piece of hockey equipment at qb? Ouch. 

That piece of hockey equipment is pretty good. Maybe Bubba should have recruited him. He has a hell of an arm and runs pretty good too. 

[choyt3]

I've wondered if his backup is Jacque Straap. 

Third stringer is L. Beau Padz. 

[ClassB]

SFI stated on twitter today something to the effect of 'leave it the NCAA to do something so stupid that it unites both halves of North Dakota.' And that was a nice thought. And it was true.

To say that UND got hosed, but then defend the interpretation of criteria that the NCAA used in picking WIU over them, is contradictory. Period. Definitely the language on here has been:

UND fans: look at who we beat, versus who they beat

NDSU fans: but, look at who WIU played.

There is no room for debate on these facts. It definitely seems that the committee, along with the SU fans on this site, feel losses to good teams are more important than actually defeating good teams in tough situations (which fits the MVFC superiority narrative, which is why i suspect SU fans parrot that point). Though WIU's loss to NDSU is confusing to everyone.

Edited November 23, 2015 by ClassB

[nd1sufan]

SFI stated on twitter today something to the effect of 'leave it the NCAA to do something so stupid that it unites both halves of North Dakota.' And that was a nice thought. And it was true.

To say that UND got hosed, but then defend the interpretation of criteria that the NCAA used in picking WIU over them, is contradictory. Period. Definitely the language on here has been:

UND fans: look at who we beat, versus who they beat

NDSU fans: but, look at who WIU played

There is no room for debate on these facts.

WIU beat 3 playoff teams, UND beat one. Where is your case?

[ClassB]

WIU beat 3 playoff teams, UND beat one. Where is your case?

WIU beat 6 teams, while UND beat 7 teams. My point is that you can't at the same time say 'I thought UND should have made it,' while crying SOS of a 6-win team. Its not cohesive.