So Bresciani has a goal to make NDSU AAU ....

[CMSioux]

"Laws we don't need no stinking laws"

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/region/3932262-ndsu-foundation-broke-law-refusing-release-names-ceo-applicants

Just the next step towards AAU. So the penalty is they have to release the names 5 months after the request - sounds like a great work around for future job searches at all Universities. 

[SiouxVolley]

Chancellor Hagerott said Bresciani's travel arrangements, though legal, are an embarrassment.

[tnt]

On 1/21/2016 at 1:04 PM, FargoBison said:

This story is embarrassing. He flew business class to India, big deal. I'm sure this stupidity will help UND's president search, nice that they all get a first hand look at how backwards this state is. 

Brescian's time is worth something, he needs to get work done while traveling and when he hits the ground, not going to happen in coach. 

Backwards huh?  Hagerott checked and found that the other Presidents fly coach.  But don't let facts get in your way. 

[Oxbow6]

My sources in Fargo confirmed Whiskey Joe is Bresciani's travel agent...........

[FargoBison]

50 minutes ago, tnt said:

Backwards huh?  Hagerott checked and found that the other Presidents fly coach.  But don't let facts get in your way. 

Other ND university presidents I guess might but nationally not so much. Many colleges and universities(especially the size of NDSU) have policy that states for international travel business class is allowable. So yeah, that is backwards and it embarrassing that he is getting called out for it. 

 

[petey23]

1 minute ago, FargoBison said:

Other ND university presidents I guess might but nationally not so much. Many colleges and universities(especially the size of NDSU) have policy that states for international travel business class is allowable. So yeah, that is backwards and it embarrassing that he is getting called out for it. 

 

I just feel sorry for all the rest of the people on the plane who had to fly coach....but I am guessing most of them were vacationing and not traveling for business.

I honestly don't think it is a big deal if he had cleared things first or reimbursed the difference or some of the difference.(our state officials are allowed to spend some of their salaries....not everything is an expense). The biggest issue with Bresciani is that he is completely tone deaf and aloof to the world and environment around him.

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, FargoBison said:

Other ND university presidents I guess might but nationally not so much. Many colleges and universities(especially the size of NDSU) have policy that states for international travel business class is allowable. So yeah, that is backwards and it embarrassing that he is getting called out for it. 

 

The speed limit on the interstates in ND is 75 mph.
The speed limit on the interstates in SD is 80 mph.

That does not mean that Bresciani can drive 80 mph on ND interstates just because it's different elsewhere. 

Don't like the law/policy? Fix it, but don't be surprised when you're called out for breaking it. 

[UND1983]

Everyone is out to get NDSU, again.  

[tnt]

8 minutes ago, petey23 said:

I just feel sorry for all the rest of the people on the plane who had to fly coach....but I am guessing most of them were vacationing and not traveling for business.

I honestly don't think it is a big deal if he had cleared things first or reimbursed the difference or some of the difference.(our state officials are allowed to spend some of their salaries....not everything is an expense). The biggest issue with Bresciani is that he is completely tone deaf and aloof to the world and environment around him.

... and with the knowledge of what happened with the previous President at his disposal, he still chose to "treat" himself.

[FargoBison]

11 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

The speed limit on the interstates in ND is 75 mph.
The speed limit on the interstates in SD is 80 mph.

That does not mean that Bresciani can drive 80 mph on ND interstates just because it's different elsewhere. 

Don't like the law/policy? Fix it, but don't be surprised when you're called out for breaking it. 

According to the chancellor he didn't really break the policy. Our backwards legislators don't like the policy and the chancellor is going to change it for them. 

If I wrote the policy it would say presidents can fly business class for long flights(that seems to be standard for our peer universities).  

[UND1983]

Just now, FargoBison said:

According to the chancellor he didn't really break the policy. Our backwards legislators don't like the policy and the chancellor is going to change it for them. 

If I wrote the policy it would say presidents can fly business class for long flights(that seems to be standard for our peer universities).  

Like Harvard, Cornell and such?

[homer]

Just now, FargoBison said:

According to the chancellor he didn't really break the policy. Our backwards legislators don't like the policy and the chancellor is going to change it for them. 

If I wrote the policy it would say presidents can fly business class for long flights(that seems to be standard for our peer universities).  

Define "long flight".  

[FargoBison]

1 minute ago, homer said:

Define "long flight".  

Five hours or longer. 

[jdub27]

12 minutes ago, FargoBison said:

If I wrote the policy it would say presidents can fly business class for long flights(that seems to be standard for our peer universities).  

What peer universities are you referring to? Glancing at the policies for SDSU, USD, Wyoming, UNI, Montana, Montana State*, Iowa State, UofM**, Nebraska just to name a few, I don't see any of these exceptions you are talking about laid out. Can you point out what schools have this policy and where it is stated?

*Any variation must include a written explanation
**Any variation must be approved by someone at least one level senior

[petey23]

22 minutes ago, FargoBison said:

According to the chancellor he didn't really break the policy. Our backwards legislators don't like the policy and the chancellor is going to change it for them. 

If I wrote the policy it would say presidents can fly business class for long flights(that seems to be standard for our peer universities).  

I don't disagree. Maybe put a 50/50 policy in place for upgrades or some other policy.

As far as our legislators...I used to always side with higher ed when it came to battles with the legislature. I worked a legislative session when I was fresh out of college and saw the western legislators in action.(didn't matter if they were republican or democrat....they were socialists on some issues and far right on others). But I will say the arrogance and disregard for budgets by those in higher ed over the last 10-12 years has at least made me give pause when looking at these issues.

[FargoBison]

1. For international travel:  If flight time approximates five or more consecutive hours from the United States port to the overseas port, a "less-than-first class" (e.g. business class) ticket may be purchased.

https://www.ohio.edu/policy/41-121.html

I am not going to look up a ton of schools, I don't have time for it. But glancing at google Kent State has a similar policy, some like the U of MN you need approval from somebody higher up and of course multiple schools are like NDSU where the president approves it. That said, it is an "embarrassment" according to the chancellor to travel in this manner, so I kind of doubt the new policy will allow it all.  

[Siouxperman8]

1 hour ago, FargoBison said:

1. For international travel:  If flight time approximates five or more consecutive hours from the United States port to the overseas port, a "less-than-first class" (e.g. business class) ticket may be purchased.

https://www.ohio.edu/policy/41-121.html

I am not going to look up a ton of schools, I don't have time for it. But glancing at google Kent State has a similar policy, some like the U of MN you need approval from somebody higher up and of course multiple schools are like NDSU where the president approves it. That said, it is an "embarrassment" according to the chancellor to travel in this manner, so I kind of doubt the new policy will allow it all.  

My company sends a lot of people to Europe and Asia every week.($2B in sales/year)  Essentially our policy is domestic is coach,  Europe is Economy Comfort (coach +), anything to Asia (over 8 hours) is OK'd for business class.

[Risky]

I see where Bresciani  said he had found donors to pay his extras on the  airline ticket.   Those donors should give their money to NDSU to cover tuition  cost hikes  and Bresciani should pay for his own excesses on the trip.  He just doesn't get it.  He is definitely one arrogant self absorbed person.    He found donors.   WOW.

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

1 hour ago, Risky said:

I see where Bresciani  said he had found donors to pay his extras on the  airline ticket.   Those donors should give their money to NDSU to cover tuition  cost hikes  and Bresciani should pay for his own excesses on the trip.  He just doesn't get it.  He is definitely one arrogant self absorbed person.    He found donors.   WOW.

Someone beat me to it? Damn! I guess I'll have to go donate $7k to Planned Parenthood in Rob Port's name instead.

[The Hawk]

1 hour ago, Risky said:

I see where Bresciani  said he had found donors to pay his extras on the  airline ticket.   Those donors should give their money to NDSU to cover tuition  cost hikes  and Bresciani should pay for his own excesses on the trip.  He just doesn't get it.  He is definitely one arrogant self absorbed person.    He found donors.   WOW.

Nowhere did he say that. He said he was informed private donors volunteered to pay difference. Big difference. 

[JohnboyND7]

1 hour ago, Risky said:

I see where Bresciani  said he had found donors to pay his extras on the  airline ticket.   Those donors should give their money to NDSU to cover tuition  cost hikes  and Bresciani should pay for his own excesses on the trip.  He just doesn't get it.  He is definitely one arrogant self absorbed person.    He found donors.   WOW.

Why should they listen to you?

[Risky]

32 minutes ago, The Hawk said:

Nowhere did he say that. He said he was informed private donors volunteered to pay difference. Big difference. 

No difference.    You don't get it either.    He should pay for his own excesses.    He should reimburse those donors  and ask those donors to put  that money to better use.    WOW. 

[FargoBison]

People can spend their money however they want, it's not Dean's job to tell them what to do with it. This is a tab the state should be picking up but fortunately business leaders come to NDSU's aid once again. They get and appreciate the work that Bresciani is doing, too bad legislative leaders like Skarpohl can't grasp it. 

[UND1983]

I see Rob Port found an email to Hagerott that says Brescani basically forced (asked) the NDSU Foundation to cover the difference.  Not a bunch of random volunteers from the local business world like he portrayed.  That guy is a piece of work.  

[Milford torgerson]

7 hours ago, Risky said:

No difference.    You don't get it either.    He should pay for his own excesses.    He should reimburse those donors  and ask those donors to put  that money to better use.    WOW. 

I hear what you're saying, but those people can spend their money as they wish.  They don't need your permission to go to las vegas and gamble or drive a cadillac or buy a plane ticket.  It is their money and you have no business telling them how they should spend it any more than them telling you what you can spend your money on.  Just listen to yourself once.