Cratter Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Fighting Hawks. Cause it has the word Fighting. Cause its better than Sundogs. Cause it has safety in numbers (8th most popular nickname among NCAA). Cause its unique to North Dakota. Cause it'll make us have a sense of pride. Cause it'll instill fear in the opposition. Cause it can peck a Bison to death. Cause Eagles are overrated. Hear me roar. 1 Quote
dagies Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 How about the Fighting Roughriders! the Fightin' Riders? Quote
rochsioux Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 UND was forced to give up the Fighting Sioux nickname because Standing Rock would not allow the tribe to vote on the issue. Most intelligent people believed that a vote by the tribal members would have been in favor of keeping the name. In today's society the majority no longer matter. What do they know ? The fact that a small minority can dictate what happens just rubs a lot of people the wrong way. A similar thing is now happening in deciding what to do about a new nickname. Arguably a majority of UND fans would like to continue without a nickname but a small group thinks it knows what is best for all and will not allow that option to be put to a vote. What are they afraid of ? The same thing that Standing Rock was afraid would happen, that the vote would not go the way they wanted. 4 Quote
Sioux-cia Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 IMO, the decision as to what the new name will be has already been decided by the committee majority and Kelley. Asking the public to vote on a name is a smoke screen invented to appease students, alumni, and fans. I hope I'm wrong. Quote
willythekid Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 UND was forced to give up the Fighting Sioux nickname because Standing Rock would not allow the tribe to vote on the issue. Most intelligent people believed that a vote by the tribal members would have been in favor of keeping the name. In today's society the majority no longer matter. What do they know ? The fact that a small minority can dictate what happens just rubs a lot of people the wrong way. A similar thing is now happening in deciding what to do about a new nickname. Arguably a majority of UND fans would like to continue without a nickname but a small group thinks it knows what is best for all and will not allow that option to be put to a vote. What are they afraid of ? The same thing that Standing Rock was afraid would happen, that the vote would not go the way they wanted. You hit the nail on the head... another case of a very small minority making decisions for the majority. I lost a lot of respect for UND today. 1 Quote
yababy8 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Passion for a logo, not for UND. What ever buddy.. We all get it. Just a logo... And a name you forgot to mention that. Ooops!!! Inadvertent oversight I'm sure.. And if you want to be honest it's an identity too right? But who in the 'move on' group has really ever been honest about anything... Quote
yababy8 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 UND was forced to give up the Fighting Sioux nickname because Standing Rock would not allow the tribe to vote on the issue. Most intelligent people believed that a vote by the tribal members would have been in favor of keeping the name. In today's society the majority no longer matter. What do they know ? The fact that a small minority can dictate what happens just rubs a lot of people the wrong way. A similar thing is now happening in deciding what to do about a new nickname. Arguably a majority of UND fans would like to continue without a nickname but a small group thinks it knows what is best for all and will not allow that option to be put to a vote. What are they afraid of ? The same thing that Standing Rock was afraid would happen, that the vote would not go the way they wanted. Bingo!! Maybe the missed opportunity for courage was circa de here... But who is asking irrational logo loving ex athletes. Well except Phil Jackson or any other 'move on' former athlete. Then it's all about how they get it why don't you? Just laughable. All of this... Laughable!! Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 IMO, the decision as to what the new name will be has already been decided by the committee majority and Kelley. Asking the public to vote on a name is a smoke screen invented to appease students, alumni, and fans. I hope I'm wrong. Unfortunately I completely agree with you. After last night I am going to guess that it will be fighting hawks. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 You hit the nail on the head... another case of a very small minority making decisions for the majority. I lost a lot of respect for UND today. Could have said it any better. I'm disgusted by the process...disgusted by the Kelley driven PC chest thumping...disgusted by the gutless majority of committee members. Another meeting and just North Dakota is eliminated? I'm scheduled to meet at 715 am with a UND Foundation member again informing me I'm always welcome to give (more) financially..... conversation might not be about what this person thinks it's going to be about! 2 Quote
MafiaMan Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 IMO, the decision as to what the new name will be has already been decided by the committee majority and Kelley. Asking the public to vote on a name is a smoke screen invented to appease students, alumni, and fans. I hope I'm wrong. What nickname do you think is the final choice? Quote
Oxbow6 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Unfortunately I completely agree with you. After last night I am going to guess that it will be fighting hawks.Now we agree........a sad, sad day for my alma mater is forthcoming. Fighting Hawks is exactly what the consulting firm was brought into do........under the direction and guidance of our pathetic outgoing President. Sundogs would be worse......but happiness and gayness would abound on campus for years to come! Quote
UND1983 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 I guess they were right. Most just "North Dakota" fans did indeed want that so they could be the de facto Sioux Forever. Now they're struggling to grasp reality. This ^^^^. Twitter proved that. 3 Quote
Popular Post MafiaMan Posted July 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 22, 2015 This ^^^^. Twitter proved that. Now that this has been decided, can the "get over it, we're changing nicknames and logos" crowd and the "Fighting Sioux forever" bunch unite to defeat an enemy-in-common? That enemy's name is Sundogs. 14 Quote
UND1983 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Now that this has been decided, can the "get over it, we're changing nicknames and logos" crowd and the "Fighting Sioux forever" bunch unite to defeat an enemy-in-common? That enemy's name is Sundogs. I am all-in. Quote
George M. Bluth Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 It's just depressing that of the 1,000s of submissions, these are the final five. 2 Quote
Blackheart Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Well it probably isn't anymore or less scientific than any polls by the papers or this site but judging by around 4or 5 hundred responses to 7 different news stories on the issue on facebook, it seems that remaining North Dakota was favored by about 95%.yeah, it would be interesting to see the results of the final vote if they allowed a Write-In option. Quote
Shawn-O Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Abdominal Snowmen ain't looking so bad right now... Quote
Maddogg1971 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 It's just depressing that of the 1,000s of submissions, these are the final five. Absolute train-wreck. Quote
petey23 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 From the GF Herald article.UND Professor John Bridewell, on the other hand, was one of seven committee members who ranked it as their least favorite option and said faculty didn't want to move forward with that."President Kelley, if we send him North Dakota, no nickname, I think he could just disband the committee or just say we could start over or he could just veto it," Bridewell said.This would be the best option right now.We are left withRoughriders....borderline top 100 from original listNodaks....seriously?Sundogs....should have been one of first casualties, not in top 1000Fighting Hawks.....safe generic choice, doesn't meet ANY of the supposed criteria. Nice logo opportunities though.North Stars.....great name, cool logo opportunities which is probably why our neighbors use it for their state motto. Quote
DamStrait Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 They discussed it. And no nickname is still off the list. One of these five will be UND new nickname.And correction. No nickname isn't a fan favorite. Your opinion - absolutely nothing more. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 So..................after a conversation with someone kind if in the know this morning the betting line on "Fighting Hawks" just went to even money. Maybe the consultants did earn their keep. Quote
DamStrait Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 It still baffles me how Roughriders can easily be the favorite among people on this site, at the Herald, and the people of Grand Forks, but ranks below Sundogs with this committee... Yes - it should have given pause to those that were quick to laud these very same people that eliminated the no nickname option. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 From the GF Herald article. UND Professor John Bridewell, on the other hand, was one of seven committee members who ranked it as their least favorite option and said faculty didn't want to move forward with that. "President Kelley, if we send him North Dakota, no nickname, I think he could just disband the committee or just say we could start over or he could just veto it," Bridewell said. This would be the best option right now. We are left with Roughriders....borderline top 100 from original list Nodaks....seriously? Sundogs....should have been one of first casualties, not in top 1000 Fighting Hawks.....safe generic choice, doesn't meet ANY of the supposed criteria. Nice logo opportunities though.North Stars.....great name, cool logo opportunities which is probably why our neighbors use it for their state motto. "Real artists don't copy, they steal" - Bill Gates However, NS isn't getting chosen. It will be Fight'n Hawks. Quote
jdub27 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Couple reactions I've seen on Twitter not happy about no nickname being eliminated Mike Commodore @commie22 36m36 minutes ago @SchlossmanGF if it can't be Fighting Sioux I don't see what's wrong with keeping University of North Dakota. I liked that. Mike Commodore @commie22 34m34 minutes ago @SchlossmanGF and who is this guy talking about "its time to show courage"? Is he serious? That time passed awhile ago. Sad day, looks like a lot of current and former players are noting their displeasure with this decision. Dillon Simpson's tweets are pretty intense and caggulias seemed pretty intense too. I believe the backlash is warranted. It's all over twitter right now. The fact that there are people, including former and current student athletes, calling out the comment about "courage" and making a mockery of it tells you everything you need to know about their complete lack of knowledge of the whole situation. Lowell Schweigert bleeds a deeper green and has done more for UND than any of them will ever even dream of doing. I guess they were right. Most just "North Dakota" fans did indeed want that so they could be the de facto Sioux Forever. Now they're struggling to grasp reality. Ding ding ding. Might be the least shocking revelation of the whole thing outside of the consultants pushing for <insert adjective> Hawks. 2 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 So..................after a conversation with someone kind if in the know this morning the betting line on "Fighting Hawks" just went to even money. Maybe the consultants did earn their keep. Huh? Please clarify, I don't care about sources I'm simply trying to understand what you mean. Quote
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