2015-2016 College Hockey (non UND Hockey)

cberkas · November 24, 2015

I remember hearing Coach Schaffer speak at Sioux Boosters a few years ago-he said many "big power conference schools" are unwilling to sign agreements with Cornell to do a home and away series with them and that's why he appreciated schools like North Dakota who's willing to return the favor of traveling to other team's barns. As much as I dislike DU I give them props too for taking the Coach Schaffer approach of "anywhere, anytime, anyplace" with regards to scheduling. Seems schools like Minnesota are unwilling to travel to non-conference teams' barns. You'd think Lucia who's coaching roots go back to small schools (Fairbanks and CC) would show a little bit more concern for the greater good of college hockey rather than just what's best for his school.

Minnesota backed out of their deal with the team that isn't in the North Star Cup gets two game against Minnesota at home. Bemidji State so far is the only team to get two home games against Minnesota, while Duluth and St. Cloud got home and home series with Minnesota.

Next rule the B1G will come up with is, only B1G teams can have drafted players.

bale31 · November 24, 2015

Minnesota backed out of their deal with the team that isn't in the North Star Cup gets two game against Minnesota at home. Bemidji State so far is the only team to get two home games against Minnesota, while Duluth and St. Cloud got home and home series with Minnesota.

Next rule the B1G will come up with is, only B1G teams can have drafted players.

while mn is guilty of a lot of things, this isn't one of them. Those home and home series are agreed upon by the other schools. Instead of having a 2 game home series for one year, they have 2 home and home series for 2 years.

I personally hate the home and home concept, it is better for the schools because there is a level of stability from a revenue standpoint and there is a reduction in expenses.

bale31 · November 24, 2015

Minnesota backed out of their deal with the team that isn't in the North Star Cup gets two game against Minnesota at home. Bemidji State so far is the only team to get two home games against Minnesota, while Duluth and St. Cloud got home and home series with Minnesota.

Next rule the B1G will come up with is, only B1G teams can have drafted players.

while mn is guilty of a lot of things, this isn't one of them. Those home and home series are agreed upon by the other schools. Instead of having a 2 game home series for one year, they have 2 home and home series for 2 years.

I personally hate the home and home concept, it is better for the schools because there is a level of stability from a revenue standpoint and there is a reduction in expenses.

AlphaMikeFoxtrot · November 24, 2015

It's bogus, but in all likelihood UND is one of the teams that voted for it along with BC, BU, DU and the few others able to get blue chips. Big Ten really wasted their surprise ability to usurp the rest of college hockey on a non-issue. This alone doesn't help them, and now everyone will suspect them of having something else cooking. Personally, I was still wait and see on whether or not Big Ten was good or bad for college hockey as a whole (WCHA destruction not withstanding), but this seals the deal.

AlphaMikeFoxtrot · November 24, 2015

Also I'm on mobile so I can't cut and paste but Hammy has as idiotic of a rationalization as possible on GPL. "college hockey should be like other college sports bringing them them in at 18"...forgetting that hockey is the only sport competing with a league like major juniors. What a moron.

jdub27 · November 24, 2015

I personally hate the home and home concept, it is better for the schools because there is a level of stability from a revenue standpoint and there is a reduction in expenses.

I agree on the first point on revenue stabilization but wouldn't it increase expenses by having to make two one-night trips instead of one two-night trip? Though admittedly its two bus rides vs. one and I'm probably missing something, just not sure what it is.

bale31 · November 24, 2015

I agree on the first point on revenue stabilization but wouldn't it increase expenses by having to make two one-night trips instead of one two-night trip? Though admittedly its two bus rides vs. one and I'm probably missing something, just not sure what it is.

well, you also have to remember that there is no hotel, eliminate at least 3 meals and there is less cost for the bussing and countless other expenses that are incurred due to having to house kids overnight.

Edited November 24, 2015 by bale31

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · November 24, 2015

It's bogus, but in all likelihood UND is one of the teams that voted for it along with BC, BU, DU and the few others able to get blue chips. Big Ten really wasted their surprise ability to usurp the rest of college hockey on a non-issue. This alone doesn't help them, and now everyone will suspect them of having something else cooking. Personally, I was still wait and see on whether or not Big Ten was good or bad for college hockey as a whole (WCHA destruction not withstanding), but this seals the deal.

Nope, UND didn't vote for it nor did any team in the NCHC

cberkas · November 24, 2015

Nope, UND didn't vote for it nor did any team in the NCHC

I like this one.

Zach Schneider ‏@zschneiderNNC 49m49 minutes ago

Sandelin: "Maybe some of those teams [pushing new rule] aren't happy they're not winning."

jdub27 · November 24, 2015

well, you also have to remember that there is no hotel, eliminate at least 3 meals and there is less cost for the bussing and countless other expenses that are incurred due to having to house kids overnight.

I guess I assumed they stayed overnight at least one night but I guess it would make sense that they would bus up in the morning and then leave after the game. I see where you're coming from now.

Pump It Up · November 24, 2015

I guess I assumed they stayed overnight at least one night but I guess it would make sense that they would bus up in the morning and then leave after the game. I see where you're coming from now.

Not that anyone is really concerned, but I can confirm that this is the case. SCSU pushed to make it a home-and-home with Minnesota every other year instead of a home series with Minnesota once every four years.

Year One: Play Minnesota in first round of North Star Cup (No other series with Minnesota)
Year Two: No North Star Cup (Home-and-home with Minnesota)
Year Three: Play BSU/UMD/MSUM in first round of North Star Cup (Series at Minnesota)
Year Four: Play BSU/UMD/MSUM in first round of North Star Cup (Home-and-home with Minnesota)

AlphaMikeFoxtrot · November 25, 2015

Touché. Wonder who the other 5 schools were then.

bale31 · November 25, 2015

Touché. Wonder who the other 5 schools were then.

the articleaning said 8t was all full D1 large schools. That narrows it down to:

BC, Norte Dame, Providence, uconn?, and bu?

sioux rube · November 25, 2015

The University of Jamestown has been accepted in the ACHA D1 membership when they begin play next fall.

http://www.uj.edu/campus_clips_mobile/uj-gains-division-1-hockey-membership

NorthDakotaHockey · November 26, 2015

Just in. Donny and the Pig 10 want a new college hockey rule that would cap the maximum age of incoming student athletes at twenty. The NCHC and the WCHA both oppose the rule change. Last I checked, there are lots of young adults who wait more than a few years before going to college. A slightly older player makes for a much more exciting game. As I always have said, if I wanted to go to a high school hockey game like The Don apparently wants to play, I'd go to a high school hockey game.

Cripes almighty. The guy's squad, and the league in which they play, drop off of the college hockey radar and all they can do is cry, cry cry.

Edited November 26, 2015 by NorthDakotaHockey

runaroundsioux · November 26, 2015

http://danmyers.blogspot.com/2015/11/don-lucia-opines-on-all-things.html

Wow, old Lucia Pet is one arrogant douche.

dagies · November 27, 2015

http://danmyers.blogspot.com/2015/11/don-lucia-opines-on-all-things.html
Wow, old Lucia Pet is one arrogant douche.

Despite all of his arguments that he says are about what's best for the kids, this is what it all boils down to. Myers got him to admit it:

I continued, saying that in the eyes of some, this rule is self-serving because Minnesota is trying to eliminate recruiting advantages smaller schools have gained over the last two decades by getting these older players.
“So they are looking out for their program, and I am looking out for ours," he said.

Edited November 27, 2015 by dagies

90siouxfan · November 27, 2015

Out of curiosity, what UND players would this have effected in prior years?

MafiaMan · November 27, 2015

The B1G showing their true colors.
The B1G wants age restriction on players and then they are complaining that they have to recruit players younger and younger. Not surprised this was all started by Lucia after he lost to Union in the National Title game.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2015/11/24_big_ten_legislation_raises.php

When Union won the national championship two years ago against Minnesota, the seeds of this legislation may have been germinated. But Union only had two 24-year olds on the roster at the time (one who turned 24 at the Frozen Four), and no 25-year olds.

I loved this paragraph from the College Hockey News article. What CHN failed to mention is that Union's opponent that night also had two 24-year olds on its roster. In fact, they were the two oldest players on the ice (Jake Parenteau and Tom Serratore, both of whom turned 25 a couple of months after the championship game).

cberkas · November 27, 2015

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