Conference Realignments - Take 2

[The Sicatoka]

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[The Sicatoka]

Everything gets better when Congress gets involved. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4119412-manchin-and-tuberville-unveil-bill-making-sweeping-changes-to-college-sports/ 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Everything gets better when Congress gets involved. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4119412-manchin-and-tuberville-unveil-bill-making-sweeping-changes-to-college-sports/ 

Well, if the NCAA won't do it, this is the next logical step.

[The Sicatoka]

Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

Well, if the NCAA won't do it, this is the next logical step.

You're not wrong; I'm just sad it came to this (in so many ways). 

[fightingsioux4life]

6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

You're not wrong; I'm just sad it came to this (in so many ways). 

Agreed.

[nodakvindy]

3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

You're not wrong; I'm just sad it came to this (in so many ways). 

Blame SCOTUS for opening this pandora's box.  And California to a lesser extent.

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

Blame SCOTUS for opening this pandora's box.  And California to a lesser extent.

It's even more fundamental. 

I refer you to 1 Timothy 6, verse 10. 

[SiouxScore]

Seems like Colorado to the Big 12 is pretty well done, wonder who else the Big 12 will target?

[SWSiouxMN]

1 hour ago, SiouxScore said:

Seems like Colorado to the Big 12 is pretty well done, wonder who else the Big 12 will target?

Would guess Arizona will be not too far behind.

[The Sicatoka]

I’m staying with my 4-4-2 final outcome prediction. 

[zonadub]

So now that Colorado to the Big 12 has been announced, and since I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night…

What is the real benefit of mid-major FBS over FCS?

[SiouxHawkGuy]

33 minutes ago, zonadub said:

So now that Colorado to the Big 12 has been announced, and since I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night…

What is the real benefit of mid-major FBS over FCS?

People watch bowl games not FCS playoffs

[fightingsioux4life]

2 hours ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

People watch bowl games not FCS playoffs

The only bowl games I watch are the CFP games. And the games UND or NDSU would qualify for are played in mid-December on a weeknight in front of half-filled stadiums.

[nodak651]

4 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The only bowl games I watch are the CFP games. And the games UND or NDSU would qualify for are played in mid-December on a weeknight in front of half-filled stadiums.

Pretty funny that boise played in an empty Frisco Bowl last year.  G5 post season is pointless.

[The Sicatoka]

Colorado Regents to PAC: CU later.

[AJS]

Pac-12 currently at 9 schools. What's the general consensus out there? If UConn gets the 14th Big-12 spot than the Pac-12 could be ok? Hypothetical change SDSU for Colorado wouldn't be bad. If Arizona gets that 14th spot, how in trouble in the Pac-12? Would Boise State be the next up? That would seem disastrous for the Pac-12. Essentially adding another Wazzu or Oregon State.  

[SiouxHawkGuy]

6 hours ago, nodak651 said:

Pretty funny that boise played in an empty Frisco Bowl last year.  G5 post season is pointless.

Nationally televised on ESPN. You don’t see many FBS teams dropping down to FCS to compete for a national championship. 

[The Sicatoka]

On 7/26/2023 at 8:07 PM, The Sicatoka said:

I’m staying with my 4-4-2 final outcome prediction. 

@AJS ... This. I'm holding to it. 

4 to BXII (CU, UA, ASU, UU)
4 swallow pride, take a smaller share, and go B1G (UW/UO/Cali-Stan)
2 end up with MWC under some name

[nodak651]

40 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Nationally televised on ESPN. You don’t see many FBS teams dropping down to FCS to compete for a national championship. 

Of course not.  That doesn't mean the bowl system is a good format.  Could care less about TV.  Besides, FCS teams are on ESPN once or twice in addition to ABC, so not sure I get your point about ESPN.

[AJS]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

@AJS ... This. I'm holding to it. 

4 to BXII (CU, UA, ASU, UU)
4 swallow pride, take a smaller share, and go B1G (UW/UO/Cali-Stan)
2 end up with MWC under some name

Having two of your nine schools being Wash / Oregon State is an issue. How you laid it out makes the most sense to me. It's a brutal business. If you're making decisions on what's best for you (i.e. your conference / schools), is to essentially eliminate one of the P5 conferences.  

[The Sicatoka]

Interesting take from our DU thorn ...

https://letsgodu.com/2023/07/27/colorados-pac-12-exit-dominoes-could-hit-university-of-denver-summit-league/ 

[AJS]

47 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Interesting take from our DU thorn ...

https://letsgodu.com/2023/07/27/colorados-pac-12-exit-dominoes-could-hit-university-of-denver-summit-league/ 

Seems to be the conventional wisdom. As I have recently, let’s take NDSU out the conversation. One thing that is rarely brought up is the Summit League BBall tournament. If an all sport MW invite came, not only the simple question of how would SDSU afford it, but why would they give up what they have for M/W BBall? 

[Yote 53]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

@AJS ... This. I'm holding to it. 

4 to BXII (CU, UA, ASU, UU)
4 swallow pride, take a smaller share, and go B1G (UW/UO/Cali-Stan)
2 end up with MWC under some name

I don't see the BIG doing partial shares.  I can see them doing reduced payouts as a buy-in to becoming a full equal partner.  I believe that is how Maryland/Rutgers was done, plus the BIG floated Maryland's exit fee, so there was a lot going on with the finances.  

If conference members aren't equals that creates problems, look at the Big 12 and Texas/OU.  How many years before Washington and a few other schools look around the room and wonder why they aren't getting the same share that Purdue gets?

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, Yote 53 said:

I don't see the BIG doing partial shares.  I can see them doing reduced payouts as a buy-in to becoming a full equal partner.  I believe that is how Maryland/Rutgers was done, plus the BIG floated Maryland's exit fee, so there was a lot going on with the finances.  

If conference members aren't equals that creates problems, look at the Big 12 and Texas/OU.  How many years before Washington and a few other schools look around the room and wonder why they aren't getting the same share that Purdue gets?

I should be clearer: Smaller share for a period of time, not ad infinitum. 

[AJS]

23 minutes ago, Yote 53 said:

I don't see the BIG doing partial shares.  I can see them doing reduced payouts as a buy-in to becoming a full equal partner.  I believe that is how Maryland/Rutgers was done, plus the BIG floated Maryland's exit fee, so there was a lot going on with the finances.  

If conference members aren't equals that creates problems, look at the Big 12 and Texas/OU.  How many years before Washington and a few other schools look around the room and wonder why they aren't getting the same share that Purdue gets?

USD / UND seem to be in similar spots when it comes to conference realignment and at least public perception. They aren't discussed at all. In relation to SDSU, what's Coyote Nations general feeling on this? Nervous? I'm interested in it.