2024 UND Football

[Oxbow6]

9 minutes ago, DL Sioux said:

Todd Hoffner would be an interesting choice but I’m guessing he makes more at Mankato as Head Coach. 

OC for a year then HC. I'm in.

[FSSD]

2 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I don't have any disdain for hockey or the REA, and I mostly agree with you.  And Bubba never should have be extended when he was (I think his initial hire was fine but Danny should have been promoted when Bubbas last contract expired). However, it's concerning that Kennedy wasn't able to get her to budge at all when it came to the split in ticket revenue.  The REA has something like 15 million in cash (I get that they need a few million for general operations, etc), and there isn't any transparency in what they plan to do with it.  In addition to that, the usage agreement changed from it spelling out exactly how net income would be distributed, to saying that a portion of net income will be distributed to UND as determined by the UAS board of directors, and it doesn't say how that determination will be made.  So if they are keeping millions in cash on hand, I think it would be reasonable to expect them to be more transparent as to their reasoning and plans.  UND has had an addition to the Betty on it's master plan for years - is the REA on board with that?  Who the hell knows!  Going to the press with the goal of ousting the president has caused me to question a certain person's motives, and THAT isn't UND's fault.

As far as, Kris and Kennedy.  Things can get personal in negotiations.  In the end many times both parties regret their actions.  I can see your point about public airing of differences.  It was in bad form.  But I certainly don't think anyone has the full story that led to that action.  Dealing with political creatures can be exhausting.   

[CMSioux]

45 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

No Pawlak?

It's a newspaper columnist with a quick list, not an official list. Anyone can apply. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, DL Sioux said:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/5-names-to-consider-for-und-offensive-coordinator

Interesting ommission on this list.

Yeah. Uninspiring list.

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

Maybe we could get saban 

 

lot less pressure up here 

 

he’s retiring

On the day of his retirement announcement, I read this quote of his. 
 

"Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people. So if everybody doesn’t buy-in to the same principles and values of the organization at the same high standard, you’re never going to be successful."

- Nick Saban

This especially resonates with me because it actually highlights UND football’s issues right now.

[jdub27]

14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Yeah. Uninspiring list.

Let's hear yours, realistic options. 

[nodakvindy]

7 hours ago, jdub27 said:

Why are we comparing an AD to a President?
I know its an unpopular opinion, but UND's AD is one of the more highly respected one's at UND's level and in peer groups. There's a reason he's on multiple committees for different sports.  However, there is no argument that the W&L's need to get back to following the rest of the positive things going on though. A lot of sports were left in some pretty bad spots and turning things around isn't always as simple as we all wish it was.

Just out of curiosity, when's the last time UND has an AD that everyone universally loved? I can think of a issues going back quite a few decades.
Faison?
Buning?
RT?
Wanless?
Gino?

He might not have been loved, but virtually every program was a big winner during Wanless' tenure.  Sports Info department was also well run, and marketing was light years better.

[gfhockey]

1 minute ago, nodakvindy said:

He might not have been loved, but virtually every program was a big winner during Wanless' tenure.  Sports Info department was also well run, and marketing was light years better.

What ever happend to the sports info department?

 

we used to have guys who thought they are on the team

 

nkw what do we have?

[Midwestern Hawk]

4 hours ago, USTBench said:

I don't see the gulf between SDSU and UND being as wide as it is between Minnesota and Ohio State/Michigan. UND seems to be stifled by the antiquated thinking of the old guard and a reluctance to court the Gen Xers/Millennials as alums/potential donors/coaches/fans, etc. I believe I even read a few pages back someone intimate UND should have never left DII. WHAT??? 

UND has the facilities, the donors, and as I drive down Columbia, I can't think of too many mid-majors that have anything broaching what UND will have for football. There's a little brother/loser mentality here that Grand Forks and UND needs to shake, but believe me, you've got a sleeping giant at the FCS level. One guy in the big chair can make that happen inside of 2 years. 

Great post.  We are very close and for that the credit goes to Bubba.  The problem is the culture and for that the credit also goes to Bubba, one guy in the big chair could make it happen fast. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

58 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Let's hear yours, realistic options. 

Do you wanna help bolster the salary pool? I’d be happy to help with it if Bubba wasn’t the head coach. Bottom line, I don’t expect the list to be very exquisite, and that’s disappointing but it’s the current state of UND Football. Who would want to hitch their coaching career to Bubba at this stage?

[UND-FB-FAN]

27 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Great post.  We are very close and for that the credit goes to Bubba.  The problem is the culture and for that the credit also goes to Bubba, one guy in the big chair could make it happen fast. 

That big guy in the chair ain’t gonna be Bubba. Bubba has done some good things, yes, but he should’ve stepped down or been terminated a few years ago.

[90siouxfan]

Replace Chaves with Bubba?

[Longtime fan]

Great move for Danny.  I was very  neutral on Danny.  Didn’t really care if he had stayed or left.  He brought some good things early on followed with a bubba like last couple years.   Definitely an upgrade from Rudy however.  The great thing for Danny is now he will be surrounded by competent personal that give a damn about football and how to win.  He has a passion for football and sdsu has a passion for football.   Great combination.  
 

 

I would have to think Danny’s thought was he’s “stuck” here.  I am pretty sure he thinks the same as us naysayers see it.  Blah, old school and frustrating.   No way a guy leaves that has bled Kelly green for as long as he has to take a lesser job at the same level.  Money is king for everyone buying pretty sure he was sick of bubba ball. I have been for 6 years. Bland and boring.   
 

If Bubba truly loves this university and FB team as much as he claims to…he would have stepped aside last year and let Danny have his shot. Instead….UND is stuck with oh gosh oh golly blah master. Bubba has had this train on derail mode for half a decade.  Bubba can’t coach! Period !  His record and stats cannot lie.   He knows how to stop a veer offense.   Whoopie.   The FCS is a very weak league.  Outside the top 10ish the rest are really D2 material. 

 

With the ever changing college athletics bubba is a lost soul. UND needs a change immediately 

 

[shep]

In other news, DeBoer is listed as the favorite for Saban’s job.

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Do you wanna help bolster the salary pool? I’d be happy to help with it if Bubba wasn’t the head coach. Bottom line, I don’t expect the list to be very exquisite, and that’s disappointing but it’s the current state of UND Football. Who would want to hitch their coaching career to Bubba at this stage?

Figured you wouldn't actually put a name out there. Must easier to keep up the constant complaining when you won't take a stand on anything. They're is also a significant difference between "uninspiring" and "exquisite". There are very few "splashy" hires, especially given the overall circumstances. 

As to your other question, I've increased my donations to help the program, regardless of who the coach is. I remember where we were 10 years ago and the program is in a hell of a lot better spot and I don't want to see it end up back there. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

12 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Figured you wouldn't actually put a name out there. Must easier to keep up the constant complaining when you won't take a stand on anything. They're is also a significant difference between "uninspiring" and "exquisite". There are very few "splashy" hires, especially given the overall circumstances. 

As to your other question, I've increased my donations to help the program, regardless of who the coach is. I remember where we were 10 years ago and the program is in a hell of a lot better spot and I don't want to see it end up back there. 

Oh I’ve definitely taken a stand (along with many others) and that is this program is heading no where great with Bubba. OC for 2024 will be an internal hire (promotion essentially) as per usual with Bubba. No one from outside the program is jumping onboard this sinking ship. I’ll stick my neck out and say probably Sam King or Joe Pawlak but I don’t know for sure. 
 

As for donations, mine are stagnant at this point with Bubba at the helm. 2021 extension after a losing season was the final straw. When (if) Chaves and the UND admin show they actually want to fund football like a top FCS program, and also demonstrate they have a top-tier vision, then I’d be happy to jump back onboard. In the meantime, simply watching this team in-person consistently lose big games - both at home and on the road - will have to do. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

What ever happend to the sports info department?

 

we used to have guys who thought they are on the team

 

nkw what do we have?

hadju@gmail.com

[SIOUXFAN97]

my money is on landry.

worth the risk for him imo........

 

[Siouxperman8]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

my money is on landry.

worth the risk for him imo........

 

I have to believe he is safer long term at St.Thomas vs coming to UND.

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I have to believe he is safer long term at St.Thomas vs coming to UND.

agreed but...depending on who we lose in april. (or gain/add).......the cupboard isn't totally bare. if he comes here and we do well maybe he gets what danny didn't want to wait for

[SiouxFan100]

I hope a few players come with our new coach

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Oh I’ve definitely taken a stand (along with many others) and that is this program is heading no where great with Bubba. OC for 2024 will be an internal hire (promotion essentially) as per usual with Bubba. No one from outside the program is jumping onboard this sinking ship. I’ll stick my neck out and say probably Sam King or Joe Pawlak but I don’t know for sure. 
 

As for donations, mine are stagnant at this point with Bubba at the helm. 2021 extension after a losing season was the final straw. When (if) Chaves and the UND admin show they actually want to fund football like a top FCS program, and also demonstrate they have a top-tier vision, then I’d be happy to jump back onboard. In the meantime, simply watching this team in-person consistently lose big games - both at home and on the road - will have to do. 

I will continue my Champions Club donations and keep my football and hockey tickets. I will continue supporting UND in every way I can. But there is no questioning that the athletic department is as low as its ever been in my lifetime (I turn 50 in May). And pretending that things "aren't that bad" will only make the hole deeper and more difficult to get out of.

[homer]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

agreed but...depending on who we lose in april. (or gain/add).......the cupboard isn't totally bare. if he comes here and we do well maybe he gets what danny didn't want to wait for

This^^^^
 

An up and coming coach with some balls and confidence will take this job.  Three weeks ago this board was on board with the offense being the strength of this team. Nothing changed but the coach.  Two really good QBs, really good young RBs, one of the best WRs in FCS and a well above average OL.  Not a bad start for someone with a pair to prove it and the desire to move up. 

[nodakvindy]

3 hours ago, shep said:

In other news, DeBoer is listed as the favorite for Saban’s job.

Never wanna be the guy that replaces THE GUY. He can build something special at Washington,  and I'd assume they will pony up to keep him. 

[nodakvindy]

4 hours ago, gfhockey said:

What ever happend to the sports info department?

 

we used to have guys who thought they are on the team

 

nkw what do we have?

Sports info still seems pretty solid, just meant that it was also strong during the Wanless tenure, which showed he cared about all facets of department including elements not as visible to the average fan.