2024 UND Football

[Mama Sue]

44 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

Im quite surprised that an offensive or defensive coordinator position at a D1 school makes that little.. particularly in MVFC or Big Sky.  Anyone konw an easy way to look at what the averages are across those conferences?

That short time to apply means they have already selected someone, in my opinion.

[CMSioux]

Montana State lost their OC to Akron. Lateral move? How does Akron compare to SDSU?

[UND-FB-FAN]

https://careers.und.edu/jobs/offensive-coordinator-football-grand-forks-north-dakota-united-states

New OC job listing mentions salary as $80,000-110,000. They need to lean more towards the 110k if they want something worthwhile. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 hour ago, Wilbur said:

Unproven at QB this year, with a new coordinator......run the ball, field position, while playing good defense should work right?  

It could.  I am basing my assessment on the last 10 years body of work, this seasons schedule and the fact the offense will likely be less productive this season.  There is always a chance it is better, but that chance is remote IMO.  D could be better, but we will still have the head scratching in game calls, time management and a game or two where Bubba's pregame speech seems to demotivate.  The trend line for this program has been down since the 2021 loss to NDSU at home.  Yes we eat NDSU last season, but that looks now more of an aberration than anything else.

[SiouxFan100]

The sky is not falling 

[Devils]

I am surprised with Danny being at UND basically his whole adult life, but I can't blame him.  This is similar to someone on the Gophers staff jumping to Ohio State or Michigan, which is fairly common.  It's just a better situation (unfortunately) and a better path to move up which at his age is his clock was ticking.  Honestly a little surprised that SDSU didn't go for a little higher profile hire being we've won basically no playoff games under him, but I guess if this was just for a QB coach job it makes sense.

[nodak651]

3 hours ago, nodakgirl93 said:

I would like to know where all the negativity of the Ralph and Betty in this thread is coming from all of a sudden? 

Probably has something to do with Kris Engelstad trying to get Kennedy fired, for his efforts to negotiate a usage agreement that benefits UND Athletics as a whole.

[SiouxHawkGuy]

11 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

The sky is not falling 

No but Bubba should have retired with the NDSU win. 

[UND Fan]

2 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Probably has something to do with Kris Engelstad trying to get Kennedy fired, for his efforts to negotiate a usage agreement that benefits UND Athletics as a whole.

Someday you will learn all that Kris does for UND athletics and UND athletes!

[nodak651]

1 hour ago, UND Fan said:

Someday you will learn all that Kris does for UND athletics and UND athletes!

I don't know if you're being serious or sarcastic.  People have said that she pays summer tuition for FB.  It's been implied that she helps with other stuff as well.  Does the REA usage agreement, in effect, require UND to be dependent on her?  How nice.  

[RhettRingers]

2 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

Can someone send a link to the bubba interview?

My guess is it will be uploaded to their page on iHeart later today or tomorrow. Just search "Complete Utter Nonsense" They had Sather and Bernahrd on the other day that is their most recent ones available.

[forksandspoons]

Not sure blaming the biggest donor in the school's history is the answer when there are so many football alumni out there that could be called on to form a new group to support football only

[RhettRingers]

I heard from multiple people who happened to listen to it that he sounded desperate. I think he knows what to come April 16th.

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, UND Fan said:

Someday you will learn all that Kris does for UND athletics and UND athletes!

seems like since und "partnered" with the Engelstad foundation UND athletics have gone backwards?

[nodak651]

3 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Not sure blaming the biggest donor in the school's history is the answer when there are so many football alumni out there that could be called on to form a new group to support football only

I was answering a question.  SHE is not the biggest donor in the school's history.  However, it seems that she want's UND to be beholden to her, even if that takes getting the president fired.  Why else refuse to improve the usage agreement?

[forksandspoons]

4 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

I was answering a question.  SHE is not the biggest donor in the school's history.  However, it seems that she want's UND to be beholden to her, even if that takes getting the president fired.  Why else refuse to improve the usage agreement?

Guessing there are two sides to every story. I am just really doubting KEM is hurting the entire athletic department more than she's helping it. 

[gfhockey]

8 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

I heard from multiple people who happened to listen to it that he sounded desperate. I think he knows what to come April 16th.

I’ve never heard bubba like that. Let’s just put it that away

 

he seemed surprised. In shock. In awe. 

[nodak651]

3 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Guessing there are two sides to every story. I am just really doubting KEM is hurting the entire athletic department more than she's helping it. 

You're probably right.  But that doesn't mean she shouldn't be called out when merited.  Look at the basketball court design drama...   she's a great friend to have as long as UND does exactly what she wants.

[ND-fan]

Chaves since being here the athletic program is mirroring or very similar Eastern Washington where athletic program can’t support it sports and there has been proposals there shutting down its football program. Und may be heading for similar fate even though we put all resources into all infrastructure in the football program. They just forgot people running the program and now we’re faced with loss of people. Don’t forget last year we lost one of our coaches to Fargo because of pay. Danny move may be right for him looking at it because he going to get paid more to support his family, he still remains in Dakotas to raise his family, he’s at elite FCS school so if he wants to move on it will be much easier to get good position at FBS program. The problem here at UND until powers to be don’t want to come realization that when one program so dominates the funding of athletics like hockey has become there is know way any other sport is going to achieve success what people want on this forum. Bubba has moved football forward here at UND from when he took over by getting donors and powers to be to invest infrastructure but now things have changed where you need money to bring quality coaching plus money to attract top players and it isn’t here program is sliding backwards. This is true for other sports like basketball and volleyball. I wouldn’t be surprised at some point in the future the proposal will be to cut football to try to save other programs without touching hockey. Think about it last 20 years when hockey went big time how how we have ate up athletic program  to balance the budget. We have lost baseball, swimming men’s and women’s, women’s hockey, and go farther back wrestling, and then quality of other programs have fallen from being elite to bottom of the conference teams. So Danny just did what was best for himself and Bubba has fought battle received criticism of not moving program forward and by some here not dynamic enough to do this and you wonder why he is disgusted. He knows this is last chance he is getting to try national champion but he can see this slipping away because he not Superman and support is not here and I beginning to believe it may be gone. I wonder if we’re not going to head like western Illinois  just having difficult time putting respectable team on the field. I have been optimistic before but seeing actual funding for football and need for additional money for NIL I am beginning to wonder if we’re in no win game because we don’t have enough big time supporters for our athletic department.

[FSSD]

17 minutes ago, UND Fan said:

Someday you will learn all that Kris does for UND athletics and UND athletes!

I am not an insider, but I don't get the distain here at all for Kris, Hockey or/and the Ralph.  If anything, football leadership starting with RT and Lennon need to own much of the current state of the program.  They did it to themselves.  Hockey did not stop the transition, Hockey didn't tell RT to quit at critical point when starting the move,  Hockey tell Dale to leave,  Hockey didn't hire Bubba..  The football guys have been fumbling for several years now.

[Wilbur]

46 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

It could.  I am basing my assessment on the last 10 years body of work, this seasons schedule and the fact the offense will likely be less productive this season.  There is always a chance it is better, but that chance is remote IMO.  D could be better, but we will still have the head scratching in game calls, time management and a game or two where Bubba's pregame speech seems to demotivate.  The trend line for this program has been down since the 2021 loss to NDSU at home.  Yes we eat NDSU last season, but that looks now more of an aberration than anything else.

I was posting in jest.  We all have seen how Bubba ball has gone. 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

10 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

You're probably right.  But that doesn't mean she shouldn't be called out when merited.  Look at the basketball court design drama...   she's a great friend to have as long as UND does exactly what she wants.

It’s hilarious they sell this at the Sioux Shop

[USTBench]

36 minutes ago, Devils said:

I am surprised with Danny being at UND basically his whole adult life, but I can't blame him.  This is similar to someone on the Gophers staff jumping to Ohio State or Michigan, which is fairly common.  It's just a better situation (unfortunately) and a better path to move up which at his age is his clock was ticking.  Honestly a little surprised that SDSU didn't go for a little higher profile hire being we've won basically no playoff games under him, but I guess if this was just for a QB coach job it makes sense.

I don't see the gulf between SDSU and UND being as wide as it is between Minnesota and Ohio State/Michigan. UND seems to be stifled by the antiquated thinking of the old guard and a reluctance to court the Gen Xers/Millennials as alums/potential donors/coaches/fans, etc. I believe I even read a few pages back someone intimate UND should have never left DII. WHAT??? 

UND has the facilities, the donors, and as I drive down Columbia, I can't think of too many mid-majors that have anything broaching what UND will have for football. There's a little brother/loser mentality here that Grand Forks and UND needs to shake, but believe me, you've got a sleeping giant at the FCS level. One guy in the big chair can make that happen inside of 2 years. 

[forksandspoons]

Bubba's salary is $255K is 2024 and $265K in 2025. Maybe he could have barely made it by on $200K a year and spread out that extra $55K and $65K a bit.. 

[gfhockey]

1 minute ago, forksandspoons said:

Bubba's salary is $255K is 2024 and $265K in 2025. Maybe he could have barely made it by on $200K a year and spread out that extra $55K and $65K a bit.. 

I was thinking this too

 

we are gunna have $265k in dead money as no coach goes in to final year of contract without extension or they plans to be fired