2024 UND Football

[F'n Hawks]

33 minutes ago, Kab said:

Would like to know the real locker room talk from players

i can’t believe they are happy with bubba and OTHER COACHES,

‘going to be a huge transfer portal and some de commits after the season either way if bubba stays or bubba is done . 

Bubba is a great guy and loves UND, but I can’t imagine there is much respect for him anymore.

[nodakvindy]

40 minutes ago, UND08 said:

I agree that this isn't a "snap your fingers and everything is fine situation"...it's going to take awhile to get things going the right direction...likely multiple seasons.

That said...the question is WHO do we want to lead the charge of getting things going in the right direction.

Bubba's had eons of time...Chaves too...I'd prefer to roll the dice on someone else in both roles.

It doesn't have to.  See Indiana, and to a lesser extent Colorado.  UND isn't nearly as bottomed out as those programs were.

[UND08]

25 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

It doesn't have to.  See Indiana, and to a lesser extent Colorado.  UND isn't nearly as bottomed out as those programs were.

You're right...it absolutely doesn't have to!

But we are not FBS...transfer portal can make a huge difference...I'm not sure we can do it that quickly here.

One thing I do know...is if Bubba is the one leading the correction...it absolutely WON'T be overnight (and likely very little will change)!

[NDRA]

I'm sure the ability, of the 2 schools you mentioned, to pay for quicker results through paying coaches and players, is much greater than UND can afford.

[nodakvindy]

21 hours ago, NDRA said:

I'm sure the ability, of the 2 schools you mentioned, to pay for quicker results through paying coaches and players, is much greater than UND can afford.

It's not about money, it's about finding someone hungry and innovative.  It's been beaten to death, but Kalen DeBoer applied for this job.  Break out of the conservative shell that UND seems to be cocooned in, and find the next Kalen DeBoer.  That coach is out there.  We need to be willing to go for the high ceiling and not accept the high floor.

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, Hawkster said:

So, if Bubba is fired, do all the assistants get fired too and the new guy hires who he wants?   I would think so.

New coaches typically hire their own staff. They tend to bring the key guys on their present staff. Some clean house, others keep one or two to try to hold team together until new guys are situated. 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 hours ago, jdub27 said:

Which part of I didn't agree with the timing of the extension and I definitely was against the buy-out language that was in it are you struggling to understand?
What time frame are you considering "a mess"? The program is clearly in a better spot than when he took it over. There have been ups and downs, but the baseline is a much better spot. Does that mean it is where I want it to be? No. The baseline and results should be more than they are.

I don't know how to help you understand that explaining that communicating with decision makers is more effective than anonymously posting the same things over and over (and over and over) again, even if you don't get the results you want every time. And frankly, that's a good thing. You want to see "a mess"? Listening to every person with an opinion and going with their whims would have any athletic department millions in the hole in buyouts and a minimal pool to replace the person everyone wants fired the second there is any adversity. There is a happy medium to that though.
Again, just so you understand, I'm not remotely OK with how this season has progressed, but it isn't a snap your fingers and everything is fine situation. And it was compounded with an extension with, at the moment, a prohibitive buyout. That's where we are right now. Can't undo it, so figuring out how to proceed from here, whether its raise funds or figure out a way to improve, is what needs to be solved.

You are right, you did disagree with the latest extension.

The concern people have is that Chaves will simply continue extending Bubba just because it's the most convenient and cheapest thing to do. He has a record of doing that.

[homer]

39 minutes ago, NDRA said:

I'm sure the ability, of the 2 schools you mentioned, to pay for quicker results through paying coaches and players, is much greater than UND can afford.

But the talent levels of schools they are competing against isn’t as high as FBS either.  
 

I don’t see the mass exodus in the transfer portal others do just because where are they going to transfer?? D2

[SiouxFan100]

I always really look forward to UND football every year. This year has been challenging. Hopefully there will a decent team to look forward to next year.

[Longtime fan]

The best outcome would be if Und wouldn’t have to fire bubba …just transfer him over to the alumni center.  They have the money to his salary. There is nobody on planet earth that loves und more.  Perfect salesman for und. Create a new position and roll his pay,or portion of what he currently makes to that position. ????  He just can’t remain head coach.  
 

Bubba has und fb so far from removed from football relevancy. When looking at a map it’s very noticeable where the fcs power teams are….SD, ND and Montana.  Und is in that circle of power.  So then why is und never in the talk for a championship when every other single team that surrounds GF absolutely owns the fcs.  Why?  Constantly watching these “regional “ teams winning it all is beyond frustrating.  If they can we can too.   
 

How that last extension was approved is mind boggling. The one before that was very questionable as well.  Yet, here we are stuck with ….”well we can’t change it now …it is what it is ….only way to make change is pony up”.    Most every person on this site, at work, family and neighbors were adamant of their displeasure for bubba ball.  Been that way for years. So what is it that we saw for years that Chavez couldn’t see?  Now we as fans have to pony up because of a decision made internally that has und fb falling way behind all the other surrounding fcs schools??  Please make it make sense 

 

A move needs to happen immediately. Losing the fans and players interest is not the best way to a winning ingredient.  Winning cures a lot of problems. Namely recruiting and monetary issues.  Recruiting is obvious. Players want to win and winning gets the attention of better recruits.  Winning gives you national exposure….TV exposure….etc.   For UND and GF ….winning brings in more fans and more fans means more ticket sales, merch, hotels , food...etc.   Und CANNOT afford to keep falling behind. We are by far the little brother in the Dakotas and Montana.  Und is on the bottom rung locally when it comes to recruiting prospects.  

 

 

[geaux_sioux]

12 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Honestly, the priority should be discussion on the entire defensive depth chart, not the quarterback depth chart. Fruechte has done a good job considering where Romfo is now compared to one year ago. 

I can’t name one guy we can’t afford to lose on defense. We used to at least have a couple to a few studs on d every year but not anymore.

[iramurphy]

I don’t see Bubba moving to the Alumni office. I don’t see their fundraisers making $250,000 per year and they aren’t going to pay an untested fundraiser more than the people who have been doing a great job fundraising for a number of years. Those people need to be high energy, dynamic personalities that know when and how to “close the deal”.  I don’t see that as one of his strengths. Having said that there are some where his personality might be perfect. 
Lastly, if you have an employee you need to let go, it’s not wise to keep them around. Just my opinion. 

[geaux_sioux]

7 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Jett Sutton is going to be a stud 

Maybe so but he ain’t done !@#$ yet. The entire roster is replaceable for next year. 

[SiouxFan100]

14 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Maybe so but he ain’t done !@#$ yet. The entire roster is replaceable for next year. 

Well that’s encouraging 

[Hawkster]

45 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Maybe so but he ain’t done !@#$ yet. The entire roster is replaceable for next year. 

But the thought of 50 portal transfers doesn't excite me either.   If they bailed on their last team, well....................

[MinnDak]

Other than Montana, the wins this year made the Hawks look way better than they are. I cannot say I saw one change or adjustment that made any coaches look good. A few passes to Bo and some of the big runs were the highlights of the year. The defense should have been shelved a long time ago.  This 4 game skid is going to be hard to overcome the next year or two without big changes. 

[MinnDak]

55 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Maybe so but he ain’t done !@#$ yet. The entire roster is replaceable for next year. 

A 6’4” QB with a cannon arm and two Ben McNaboes were the real off season need. Maybe one other guy too but he’s under contract. 

[Sioux94]

Saw this on FB today in a comment on the North Dakota football threads. According to this there were football alumni that highly recommended  Chaves not extend Bubba and made their feelings pretty clear. 

[Oxbow6]

21 hours ago, UND08 said:

I mean...I'm with you on the defense...but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Simon Romfo will ever be anything more than a middle of the pack MVFC QB that lags behind the upper echelon.

Great story...no doubt...but he's had one game all year where I really felt like he was in command (YSU), and his coach trusted him so much that he took him OFF the field for the biggest play of the game.

But to your point...there's 348 other deficiencies with this team...Simon doesn't rank in the top 40 of them.

So if I'm reading this correctly this team by your estimation has 350 deficiencies and this team's QB play doesn't crack the top 40 in its deficiencies??

#greatstory

[Oxbow6]

When UND loses on the road...again...to drop 5 straight to end the season to finish 5-7 and misses the playoffs in a watered down FCS where does the UND FB hype/spin machine...and a few too many here on this site...go to get any build up interest/excitement prior to the first kickoff of the 2025 season?

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

When UND loses on the road...again...to drop 5 straight to end the season to finish 5-7 and misses the playoffs in a watered down FCS where does the UND FB hype/spin machine...and a few too many here on this site...go to get any build up interest/excitement prior to the first kickoff of the 2025 season?

Well the team GPA is solid, so there's that.......

[Big Green]

One of the most frustrating things this year is the schedule set up well to have a good season.  7 of the 12 games at home.  Host 2 of the 3 other Dakota teams at home.  Front load the schedule with Home games to build confidence and play 2 of the toughest home games at the end of the year when we should have been on a roll.  We should have been 8-3 going into this weekend with a chance to get a first round bye with a win.

 

[geaux_sioux]

11 hours ago, Hawkster said:

But the thought of 50 portal transfers doesn't excite me either.   If they bailed on their last team, well....................

Get with the times. It’s not always like that. Sometimes things just don’t work out at the first stop and that’s not necessarily an indictment on the player or program. 

[geaux_sioux]

10 hours ago, Sioux94 said:

Saw this on FB today in a comment on the North Dakota football threads. According to this there were football alumni that highly recommended  Chaves not extend Bubba and made their feelings pretty clear. 

The grammatical travesty of that post is all you need to know. It’s not something I would site.

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

The grammatical travesty of that post is all you need to know. It’s not something I would site.

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