UND1983 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 31 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: The more I think about it the more frustrated I get. Bubba has concreted himself into a very selfish human being. He has to realize he has set this program back many many years. His right hand man that had nearly two decades in GF leaves for a lesser position. If he looked into the mirror and asked what his accomplishments have been in 10 years while being head coach at UND …what would the true response be? “I’m just an above .500 coach I havent won a single playoff game I’m a defensive minded guy that has a horrible defense 90% of the my recruits only have D2 offers…which coincidentally works against most of the fcs (D2) not the top 10 tier I refuse to adjust to in game situations I can’t win on the road I simply cannot exude confidence I guess he can say he was better than mussman. Not a tough assignment. He hasn’t accomplished sh&t. He beat Ndsu this year then teared up??? Cmon man. It’s selfish for him to continue to collect a paycheck while this program sinks further. After the latest transgressions it's tough to rip on this review. Not sure what he thinks he will do for the program over the next year other than collect his money 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, UND1983 said: After the latest transgressions it's tough to rip on this review. Not sure what he thinks he will do for the program over the next year other than collect his money It’s all about collecting money at this point, thus Bubba has dissolved his reputation to rubble. Simply put, he didn’t deserve to be head coach for more than 5 seasons; 2018 should’ve been his last. He’s been in over his head for a while. 1 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Nodak78 said: Jake Landry - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks - Football Coaches - The University of St. Thomas (tommiesports.com) "Under Landry's guidance, the Purple offense took a leap forward during its 2022 Pioneer Football League championship run. The Tommies led the PFL scoring 32.6 points per game and was fourth with 378.0 yards per game. Offensive lineman Matt Weimann earned a selection to the Phil Steele Magazine All-America Fourth Team after helping the offense rank tied for fifth in the FCS with 45 tackles for loss allowed and tied for 10th with 12 sacks allowed. Landry also led the Tommie offense to rank tied for 11th in FCS with a 48.2 percent third-down conversion rate and 21st with 200.2 rushing yards per game." Yeah I read that and then this year he averaged 24.9ppg and 300ypg and 38% on 3rd down. Quote
Nodak78 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 22 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Yeah I read that and then this year he averaged 24.9ppg and 300ypg and 38% on 3rd down. Did they win the conference? Quote
sioux24/7 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Did they win the conference? Nope, Drake did. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 19 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It’s all about collecting money at this point, thus Bubba has dissolved his reputation to rubble. Simply put, he didn’t deserve to be head coach for more than 5 seasons; 2018 should’ve been his last. He’s been in over his head for a while. Regardless of what you think, and some points are definitely valid, it legitimately seems kind of crazy that people just assume that someone who has dedicated their entire adult life to coaching and reached the point Bubba has, pouring everything into the program and has had results that are in the top quartile of coaches at this level, would just up and quit and walk away with 2 years left on his contract. (Yeah we know, "complacency") I find it hard to believe that there's a single person criticizing him that wouldn't do the exact same thing given the multiple years left on his contract. Now, if he decides he's ready to hang it up, different story. And then some of the critics are right, he doesn't have the fire he needs to continue. 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Regardless of what you think, and some points are definitely valid, it legitimately seems kind of crazy that people just assume that someone who has dedicated their entire adult life to coaching and reached the point Bubba has, pouring everything into the program and has had results that are in the top quartile of coaches at this level, would just up and quit and walk away with 2 years left on his contract. (Yeah we know, "complacency") I find it hard to believe that there's a single person criticizing him that wouldn't do the exact same thing given the multiple years left on his contract. Now, if he decides he's ready to hang it up, different story. And then some of the critics are right, he doesn't have the fire he needs to continue. At least we can agree then that he is hanging around for the money, to the detriment of the program he loves so dearly. 3 Quote
Nodak78 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 35 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Nope, Drake did. Did Tommies have better record but not eligible for title? Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 yet to see geaux_sioux weigh in. Would like to see his take on things. 3 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 28 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Did Tommies have better record but not eligible for title? Not conference record. They also lost to Drake 52-21. Were you not able to look this up? I’m confused. Quote
Hawkster Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 For those that think Bubba is going to see the writing on the wall and retire after next year, I'm betting he won't. No way is Bubba leaving $265,000 on the table and that's what he gets for 2025 if he get fired. That's a hell of a nice early retirement gift. Quote
Nodak78 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 22 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Not conference record. They also lost to Drake 52-21. Were you not able to look this up? I’m confused. Lazy 1 Quote
gundy1124 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 4 hours ago, shep said: I get all that but how often does a OL Coach become an OC? Too lazy to research More often than the WR coach, less often than the QB coach, just spit balling but I believe this to be true. Quote
gundy1124 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: yet to see geaux_sioux weigh in. Would like to see his take on things. Might need a wellness check if we don't hear from him by morning. 4 Quote
zonadub Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 I may be wrong, but iirc Vince Lombardi was an O-Lineman. He was a pretty decent coach. A more recent example would be Bill Belichick. Quote
CMSioux Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 49 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. UND hockey is all they care about at this point in time. It’s hockey season; football manners all put on hold. I agree - very sad state of affairs for UND football (and basketball or any other sport not played on ice at UND). 1 Quote
Mama Sue Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 7 hours ago, gundy1124 said: Might need a wellness check if we don't hear from him by morning. Maybe he is in negotiation for the position. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. 2 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 12 minutes ago, jdub27 said: AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. @jdub27 wanna “make a stand” and predict the number of wins in 2024? Too early for solid predictions in my estimation, as don’t even know Fall roster or coaching staff at this point, but just curious since you’re kinda a 99% glass full kind of guy for UND… I’ll just say that at this early juncture - with the right to change predictions based on upcoming staff/roster changes - that I see a 6-6 season upcoming in 2024. Of course, I certainly hope that leads to a house cleaning. Quote
SooToo Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. Come on. You're spoiling the narrative again. When is the next signing day -- February? Kind of expected some kind of release this week on incoming mid-year portal transfers. 2 1 Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 6 wins are going to be hard to come by next year. 7 wins doesn't guarantee you a playoff spot next year in a 12 game season. If this team does not make the playoffs this year, I don't know how you can keep Bubba. As previously stated, they aren't going to have Bubba coach a lame duck season in 2025 without a new contract. So if this team doesn't win at least 8 games this year and at least make the playoffs, Bubba is gone. 1 Quote
gundy1124 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 3 hours ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. Maybe he's looking for an OC? 1 Quote
AJS Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: 6 wins are going to be hard to come by next year. 7 wins doesn't guarantee you a playoff spot next year in a 12 game season. If this team does not make the playoffs this year, I don't know how you can keep Bubba. As previously stated, they aren't going to have Bubba coach a lame duck season in 2025 without a new contract. So if this team doesn't win at least 8 games this year and at least make the playoffs, Bubba is gone. I'm not breaking any news here, but I think it's important to get realistic with the situation. It's fact that under the current UND leadership (Armacost / Chaves) that with the Athletic Department, your job performance does not matter. This athletic department performance under Chaves has been an embarrassing dumpster fire. There's no reason to believe it'll change. The post yesterday about Bubba getting an extension. I'm sure that will be the outcome. I really am shocked that as an alumni base / donors that what's happening is apparently ok. It's so frustrating. 1 2 Quote
UND08 Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 12 hours ago, Hawkster said: For those that think Bubba is going to see the writing on the wall and retire after next year, I'm betting he won't. No way is Bubba leaving $265,000 on the table and that's what he gets for 2025 if he get fired. That's a hell of a nice early retirement gift. For the love of all things holy couldn't we have negotiated a re-assignment to the athletic department/fundraising for the last two years?!? Would take Bubba stepping down in a mutual parting of ways...a la Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft (but without the titles)... Quote
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