gundy1124 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, shep said: I get all that but how often does a OL Coach become an OC? Too lazy to research More often than the WR coach, less often than the QB coach, just spit balling but I believe this to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: yet to see geaux_sioux weigh in. Would like to see his take on things. Might need a wellness check if we don't hear from him by morning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I may be wrong, but iirc Vince Lombardi was an O-Lineman. He was a pretty decent coach. A more recent example would be Bill Belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 49 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. UND hockey is all they care about at this point in time. It’s hockey season; football manners all put on hold. I agree - very sad state of affairs for UND football (and basketball or any other sport not played on ice at UND). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 hours ago, gundy1124 said: Might need a wellness check if we don't hear from him by morning. Maybe he is in negotiation for the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 minutes ago, jdub27 said: AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. @jdub27 wanna “make a stand” and predict the number of wins in 2024? Too early for solid predictions in my estimation, as don’t even know Fall roster or coaching staff at this point, but just curious since you’re kinda a 99% glass full kind of guy for UND… I’ll just say that at this early juncture - with the right to change predictions based on upcoming staff/roster changes - that I see a 6-6 season upcoming in 2024. Of course, I certainly hope that leads to a house cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooToo Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. Come on. You're spoiling the narrative again. When is the next signing day -- February? Kind of expected some kind of release this week on incoming mid-year portal transfers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 wins are going to be hard to come by next year. 7 wins doesn't guarantee you a playoff spot next year in a 12 game season. If this team does not make the playoffs this year, I don't know how you can keep Bubba. As previously stated, they aren't going to have Bubba coach a lame duck season in 2025 without a new contract. So if this team doesn't win at least 8 games this year and at least make the playoffs, Bubba is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, CMSioux said: Looking at the lineup for the fan lunch today and Bubba is not on it. That is very poor thinking. Chavez should have required him to address the current status the the team. I predict low attendance, low energy and lots of concerns at this event. I am sure they are hoping that hockey will rule the event, which is part of the problem. It is tough to be a UND football fan right now. Maybe he's looking for an OC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: 6 wins are going to be hard to come by next year. 7 wins doesn't guarantee you a playoff spot next year in a 12 game season. If this team does not make the playoffs this year, I don't know how you can keep Bubba. As previously stated, they aren't going to have Bubba coach a lame duck season in 2025 without a new contract. So if this team doesn't win at least 8 games this year and at least make the playoffs, Bubba is gone. I'm not breaking any news here, but I think it's important to get realistic with the situation. It's fact that under the current UND leadership (Armacost / Chaves) that with the Athletic Department, your job performance does not matter. This athletic department performance under Chaves has been an embarrassing dumpster fire. There's no reason to believe it'll change. The post yesterday about Bubba getting an extension. I'm sure that will be the outcome. I really am shocked that as an alumni base / donors that what's happening is apparently ok. It's so frustrating. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 hours ago, Hawkster said: For those that think Bubba is going to see the writing on the wall and retire after next year, I'm betting he won't. No way is Bubba leaving $265,000 on the table and that's what he gets for 2025 if he get fired. That's a hell of a nice early retirement gift. For the love of all things holy couldn't we have negotiated a re-assignment to the athletic department/fundraising for the last two years?!? Would take Bubba stepping down in a mutual parting of ways...a la Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft (but without the titles)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: AD doesn't set the lineup. They concentrate on getting a few coaches from the main seasons in progress (hockey and WBB this week) and sprinkle in minor sport coaches to fill it. Bubba will likely speak after the next signing day. Had fan luncheon at Suite Shots in Fargo on Tuesday. Had Sather, Vahrenkamp, Boysen, and Goehring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I have only a tiny knowledge and interest in Chaves or football, but him coming from Eastern Washington, my thought was he would be good for the football program? So why is he seem to be "quiet quitting"? what happened at EWU? Did he see something here that pushed him to this strategy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/11/2024 at 9:47 AM, nodak651 said: Are you you referring to me? nope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 hours ago, ND-fan said: I have gut feeling Chaves comes in next week or two and extends Bubba’s contract a year based on this past year. The under lying reason is to bring outside OC giving that person that will be some continuity in the program. This would guarantee at least two or three year commitment. Second if he doesn’t we loose players and have terrible season go backwards loss in revenues and having back to back seasons limbo could destroy the program even worse then 2013 year and then to get somebody to take over the program may set the program back even further. I believe Chaves wants continuity and having program maintains upper quality level with ability to get to championship level and within long-term goal of staying in budget. I wonder what will be reaction from people on this board if this happens. I don't like losing players, but we don't have anyone so good that keeping them justifies a coaching extension. If we hire the right guy, they can get their own high end players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 23 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: throw in a new OC and a new QB, it gets even tougher. Who knows, maybe this is our Belichick-Brady combo. You don't know until you try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxfan512 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 18 hours ago, ChrisUND1 said: I don’t want Fruend back at UND. He has burned this bridge. Do you really want to welcome an employee back who bailed on your institution? That said, I wish him well. Danny has no obligation to stay at UND and more than any other coach in any other program. The guy has a career and a family to think about first and foremost. If he thinks this move make the most sense, what's the problem? I think most people would be will to take a lateral move if not a demotion, IF it paid more money and IF they thought it would lead to bigger and better opportunities down the road. Did Dale burn bridges at UND because he left for Southern Illinois? People were disappointed, but did anyone really never want the guy back? Do we really expect our staff to be as complacent in their roles as the University seems to be with athletic expectations? If making a career move like this truly burns a bridge with the University, then the University needs to reevaluate their leadership and hiring process (probably need to do that anyway). I'd gladly have Danny back, IF he is the best qualified guy for the job. If there is someone else out there who we think could really make a splash then I'd take him. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 18 hours ago, gundy1124 said: Everything starts up front with the O-line. O-line Coach knows RB and TE blocking responsibilities. O-Line coaches have a base belief and strong working knowledge of blocking concepts in run/pass game. O-Line, especially Center has in game checks and their O-line Coach teaches them. O-Line coaches are involved in schematics with OC I believe in most cases. (If we can't block it, we can't run it). O-Line coach knows realistic timing of each play. Playing time helps anywhere from a little to quite a bit. It's never hurt a coach having a ton of playing time. But do they know when to call a triple reverse? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, petey23 said: Had fan luncheon at Suite Shots in Fargo on Tuesday. Had Sather, Vahrenkamp, Boysen, and Goehring. They do run the Fargo one a little bit differently due to frequency and distance. 3 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: @jdub27 wanna “make a stand” and predict the number of wins in 2024? Too early for solid predictions in my estimation, as don’t even know Fall roster or coaching staff at this point, but just curious since you’re kinda a 99% glass full kind of guy for UND… I’ll just say that at this early juncture - with the right to change predictions based on upcoming staff/roster changes - that I see a 6-6 season upcoming in 2024. Of course, I certainly hope that leads to a house cleaning. Without know the OC, who else we'll lose in the portal and who we'll gain? No different than you, not going to throw what would be a random guess out there. I think the defense needs to get a couple more guys (or see significant improvement from the ones on campus), we need to retain our offensive talent (have concerns about 1-2 players at the moment) and get an OC that will be able to use said talent and work with two young QB's. The schedule isn't going to be a cakewalk with 3 of this year's 4 semi-finalist plus an FBS game. The conference road schedule is decent, so that is helpful given road issues. Could be as low as 5, could be as high as 11 (assuming everything possible goes right). A ton of variance out there 7.5+ months before the season starts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 While I have appreciate the kelly green glasses optimism year after year I'd give this team a 5% chance to win 9 game or more next season.....and 5% is probably high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxHawkGuy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Iowa St, Montana, Idaho St, NDSU, SDSU are auto Ls Not to mention Shut out by UNI 27-0 last year Beat Indiana St by 3 in OT last year Beat Illinois St by 1 last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Sounds like DeBoer to Alabama… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, SooToo said: Come on. You're spoiling the narrative again. When is the next signing day -- February? Kind of expected some kind of release this week on incoming mid-year portal transfers. What narrative you speaking of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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