jdub27 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes. From what I can tell, he's giving plenty of guys the chance for that role and they still can't find the right combo to take it and run. Just when you think its close, you see why he needs to try another combo. No doubt that it is incredibly frustrating but this isn't how he handled line-ups in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUndFan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, jdub27 said: From what I can tell, he's giving plenty of guys the chance for that role and they still can't find the right combo to take it and run. Just when you think its close, you see why he needs to try another combo. No doubt that it is incredibly frustrating but this isn't how he handled line-ups in the past. I agree that this year seems more frustrating finding those right bench players, but i think we can mostly agree who our starting 5 is. Some of them need to be in when he brings in bench players. Mass subbing and having all subs on the floor at the same time hasn't been working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD UND Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: That's exactly what a good coach does. Calls a timeout when another team is on a run. The fact that you called them a magical timeout just takes credibility away from you. But I have seen Coach Sather do this many times in the past two years. We blow large leads and just throw our hands up in the air. Also the hockey line up changes needs to go! Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes. We should always have 3 or 4 starters on the court at all times. 56 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Uh oh.... I was worried about Sather's little minions coming out after that post! Maybe do something to stop the run that SDSU was going on?? You know.... going from up 13 to down 11 in a five minute stretch is probably something that you don't want to happen. Maybe, just maybe, try do something to stop it?? I'm agreeing with both of you that he should have used his magical timeouts to stop the other team. Timeouts always stop runs, because they are magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SD UND said: I'm agreeing with both of you that he should have used his magical timeouts to stop the other team. Timeouts always stop runs, because they are magic. You are so out of touch with reality it isn't even worth discussing these topics with you. Somebody says something that you don't agree with and all you can come back with is extreme sarcasm and never any valid points to back up your claims. Again, I really respect you having Sather's back no matter the cost. But you're so off base with your defenses that it is ruining any credibility that you once had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD UND Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, HoopsFan03 said: You are so out of touch with reality it isn't even worth discussing these topics with you. Somebody says something that you don't agree with and all you can come back with is extreme sarcasm and never any valid points to back up your claims. Again, I really respect you having Sather's back no matter the cost. But you're so off base with your defenses that it is ruining any credibility that you once had. I guess if I don't have credibility on a fan forum from HoopsFan03, I'll be able to sleep at night. There is a timeout every 4 minutes of game play- I guess if he would call one between the 16 and 12 minute mark, everything would have been different. Like I said, timeouts are magical and change everything. Maybe he should have switched jackets at halftime or used a different color marker as well for his whiteboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 He did call a timeout around the 'under 8' timeout range after SDSU made a 3 (when he would've gotten a free one at next stoppage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: That's exactly what a good coach does. Calls a timeout when another team is on a run. The fact that you called them a magical timeout just takes credibility away from you. But I have seen Coach Sather do this many times in the past two years. We blow large leads and just throw our hands up in the air. Also the hockey line up changes needs to go! Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes. We should always have 3 or 4 starters on the court at all times. Had a coach that said never let a run get past 10, he would always call time out. Didn’t always work but at least he tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD UND Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, UND1983 said: He did call a timeout around the 'under 8' timeout range after SDSU made a 3 (when he would've gotten a free one at next stoppage) Not magical enough.. needed to do it at the 10:08 mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kab said: Had a coach that said never let a run get past 10, he would always call time out. Didn’t always work but at least he tried. That's correct. They don't always work. But at least you tried, instead of just sitting in the chair with your face in your hands shaking your head because it is all the players fault that the other team is on a run. Just like Sather did in the SDSU game..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The other problem in waiting for the 4 minute timeout sometimes they end up being closer to 8 minutes before a stop in play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 People thought the last couple games were must win games. What does that make the next two?? I would think extremely must win. Only team in the league without a conference win. Against the other bottom two teams in the league. I've said this all year long, UND has the players to be a middle of the pack Summit league team this season. Hopefully we can start to see those players skills put to use for a couple wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: That's correct. They don't always work. But at least you tried, instead of just sitting in the chair with your face in your hands shaking your head because it is all the players fault that the other team is on a run. Just like Sather did in the SDSU game..... Sounds like Travis Brewster before Chaves (finally) showed him the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-SPORTS-FAN Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, SD UND said: I'm agreeing with both of you that he should have used his magical timeouts to stop the other team. Timeouts always stop runs, because they are magic. You’re a clown 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: From what I can tell, he's giving plenty of guys the chance for that role and they still can't find the right combo to take it and run. Just when you think its close, you see why he needs to try another combo. No doubt that it is incredibly frustrating but this isn't how he handled line-ups in the past. I will add though, from experience, that this usually does not lead to team success or wins. Hence UND's record and being 0-4 in conference play. You can't keep doing the same thing (constantly switching who plays when/how much) and expect different results. At some point you have to just play the top 8 best players and figure it out from there. It can't get any worse than it is now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-SPORTS-FAN Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 Sather might be the worst coach ever for UND! I’m sorry it’s time to move on or cancel the program if you are happy finishing in last. I get it’s a young team but my goodness, he has zero creativity or at least has diminished from when he started, players have regressed, and struggles to keep players. I’M DONE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGood Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Winning 20% of games against d1 opponents in the last 3 years. Let an assistant take over the rest of the year and see if he can find something. It’s a lost cause with Sather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, UND-SPORTS-FAN said: Sather might be the worst coach ever for UND! I’m sorry it’s time to move on or cancel the program if you are happy finishing in last. I get it’s a young team but my goodness, he has zero creativity or at least has diminished from when he started, players have regressed, and struggles to keep players. I’M DONE! But as long as we dominate the all-academic teams, it doesn't really matter. (extreme sarcasm) #SSDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I fully expect a new head coach come May 1 (hopefully not take as long as last time) and basically another new roster come November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: I fully expect a new head coach come May 1 (hopefully not take as long as last time) and basically another new roster come November. It's more likely Chaves extends him in the name of "stability". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: I fully expect a new head coach come May 1 (hopefully not take as long as last time) and basically another new roster come November. Won’t happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGood Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Kab said: Won’t happen 20% win percentage better say different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: It's more likely Chaves extends him in the name of "stability". I get this is somewhat tongue in cheek but unless something drastic changes here I don’t know how even Chaves can justify that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, GoodGood said: 20% win percentage better say different How many years left on contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGood Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, Kab said: How many years left on contract? Should be about 5 more minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, sioux24/7 said: I get this is somewhat tongue in cheek but unless something drastic changes here I don’t know how even Chaves can justify that. I agree with you, but look how long Brewster was allowed to stay on before he was pink slipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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