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On 11/27/2022 at 8:39 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:

I think things will be much the same as far as coaching and personnel.  Here is a very early prediction on the 2023 season...

Drake - easy W

Northern Arizona - W

@Boise State - L

@South Dakota State - L

Western Illinois - W

North Dakota State - L

@Northern Iowa - L

Indiana State - W

@Murray State - Toss up - bad team but we are on road in a new venue

@South Dakota - Toss up - avg team but on the road

Illinois State - Toss up - good team but at home

There you have it.  somewhere between 4-7 and 7-4.  

HUGE win yesterday.  What happens next Saturday in Cedar Falls will tell us a bunch about what happened yesterday and the rest of the season.

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There has previously been a lot of talk about Bubba and UND going for it on 4th down on our side of the field vs NDSU while winning in the second quarter.  There has also been a lot of talk about how UND had the opportunity to hire DeBoer, Washington's current head coach.

These situations aren't exactly apples to apples, and Washington was at least out of field goal range, but the two situations are close enough that it's worth mentioning.  Similar coaching decision, similar situation, different result.  Guessing Washington fans would have been pissed at DeBoer had they not converted and Oregon scored.  People would have been praising Bubba had UND converted.  Results matter, of course.  Given the discussion here lately, I just found this play call somewhat amusing when I saw it...

 

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1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

There has previously been a lot of talk about Bubba and UND going for it on 4th down on our side of the field vs NDSU while winning in the second quarter.  There has also been a lot of talk about how UND had the opportunity to hire DeBoer, Washington's current head coach.

These situations aren't exactly apples to apples, and Washington was at least out of field goal range, but the two situations are close enough that it's worth mentioning.  Similar coaching decision, similar situation, different result.  Guessing Washington fans would have been pissed at DeBoer had they not converted and Oregon scored.  People would have been praising Bubba had UND converted.  Results matter, of course.  Given the discussion here lately, I just found this play call somewhat amusing when I saw it...

 

What DeBoer (and Eric Schmidt!) and Washington are doing is very impressive … certainly not apples to apples. 

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I’m done with Tommy. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he has done good things and will lead UND in a lot of categories. He was also not the only issue with today’s game. With that being said, I don’t think he is the guy to lead this team on a deep playoff run. 
 

It is unlikely they will make this move this year, but I wonder if they will have the balls to not have him back for his Covid year next season. 

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1 hour ago, F'n Hawks said:

I’m done with Tommy. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he has done good things and will lead UND in a lot of categories. He was also not the only issue with today’s game. With that being said, I don’t think he is the guy to lead this team on a deep playoff run. 
 

It is unlikely they will make this move this year, but I wonder if they will have the balls to not have him back for his Covid year next season. 

If the OL canlt blick 3 or 4 rushing OL.  That is not on Tommy.  Maybe Joe P.  

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On 10/15/2023 at 9:40 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:

HUGE win yesterday.  What happens next Saturday in Cedar Falls will tell us a bunch about what happened yesterday and the rest of the season.

Sucks, but I guess now we know.  Win all the games we should(7-4) and we will be one and done in the playoffs.

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2 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Sucks, but I guess now we know.  Win all the games we should(7-4) and we will be one and done in the playoffs.

Status quo, but this is a 10 year sample size

 

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1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Status quo, but this is a 10 year sample size

 

Yep.  Its just who we are.  Playing anyone other than a cupcake on the road is an instant L for Bubba.  Just can't get over the "hump".  We did get the Bison monkey off our back and was really hoping last weeks win would give us some juice and get us over the hump.  I was at a wedding so I could not watch the game other than on my phone.  

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19 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Yep.  Its just who we are.  Playing anyone other than a cupcake on the road is an instant L for Bubba.  Just can't get over the "hump".  We did get the Bison monkey off our back and was really hoping last weeks win would give us some juice and get us over the hump.  I was at a wedding so I could not watch the game other than on my phone.  

You didn’t miss much

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35 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

You didn’t miss much

Just watched first half on ESPN+.  The offense is terrible, especially after ziebarth went down....a thousand ways to throw a swing pass.  Tommy looks like a deer in the headlights.

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10 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

I’m done with Tommy. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he has done good things and will lead UND in a lot of categories. He was also not the only issue with today’s game. With that being said, I don’t think he is the guy to lead this team on a deep playoff run. 
 

It is unlikely they will make this move this year, but I wonder if they will have the balls to not have him back for his Covid year next season. 

I am also. I've been a semi Tommy backer and Semi Bubba backer but I'm done with both. If anyone thinks this team has any shot at competing with top teams in the playoffs you are delusional. We can fire up a big one at home now and then, but that's it. Players got praise last week, they also deserve criticism this week. Zero points is embarrassing. I feel bad for saying the word Embarrassing 10 times today, but that's what this is. 

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3 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I am also. I've been a semi Tommy backer and Semi Bubba backer but I'm done with both. If anyone thinks this team has any shot at competing with top teams in the playoffs you are delusional. We can fire up a big one at home now and then, but that's it. Players got praise last week, they also deserve criticism this week. Zero points is embarrassing. I feel bad for saying the word Embarrassing 10 times today, but that's what this is. 

Bubba got the W (NDSU) he and everyone wanted. Time to ride off into the sunset. UND football needs a leader. 

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Pre season this game was 50/50 on my schedule, NI has a strong home field advantage history. Joining the MVFC puts several drivable away games on the schedule every year. It also replaces meaningless Portland State games with Northern Iowa. There was a great contingency of UND fans at this game. Huge tailgate spot (mostly due to player parents but ordinary fans also, impressive). 8/3 still achievable. I will be at every remaining game as I choose to support the team in person rather than cheap shot on the Internet. Rough game, head scratcher, gotta move on and enjoy the season for what it is - games played by student athletes. 

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11 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

I’m done with Tommy. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he has done good things and will lead UND in a lot of categories. He was also not the only issue with today’s game. With that being said, I don’t think he is the guy to lead this team on a deep playoff run. 
 

It is unlikely they will make this move this year, but I wonder if they will have the balls to not have him back for his Covid year next season. 

I really want to keep supporting Tommy and Bubba but I just can't. Its like there's a force field 10 yards after the line of scrimmage. Only explanation why they never throw past it. Even after the highest of highs, they somehow manage to go to the lowest of lows. Start Feeney and you get more running ability plus a good deep ball. But that's assuming that change for the better is desired and they won't settle for status quo.

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14 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

Pre season this game was 50/50 on my schedule, NI has a strong home field advantage history. Joining the MVFC puts several drivable away games on the schedule every year. It also replaces meaningless Portland State games with Northern Iowa. There was a great contingency of UND fans at this game. Huge tailgate spot (mostly due to player parents but ordinary fans also, impressive). 8/3 still achievable. I will be at every remaining game as I choose to support the team in person rather than cheap shot on the Internet. Rough game, head scratcher, gotta move on and enjoy the season for what it is - games played by student athletes. 

9-2 was attainable yesterday at this time. Now the goal is 8-3. The goal post keeps moving. It’s doable, but this degree of inconsistency is beyond challenging. Not even sure if inconsistency is the right word, as this program is just plain awful (consistently) on the road. 
 

Easy button is always get new leadership, but can’t do that right now.  The 2023 season is not up yet. Changes still need to be made NOW. New personnel groupings are really where it is at at this point. So hard considering so many thought we turned the corner after the NDSU win, and got comfortable, but it was just a distraction from the truth. Sometimes, the truth hurts, but it will set you free.

Celebrate the wins, learn from the losses. Problem is the program isn’t learning from these road losses. Program has pleateaud. No more progression. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Time for a new dog, but we’ll always appreciate the good ol’ boy.

 

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Raise your hand if you see this team winning out in the regular season?

<scans group>

That's what I thought. 

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On 11/27/2022 at 8:39 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:

I think things will be much the same as far as coaching and personnel.  Here is a very early prediction on the 2023 season...

Drake - easy W

Northern Arizona - W

@Boise State - L

@South Dakota State - L

Western Illinois - W

North Dakota State - L

@Northern Iowa - L

Indiana State - W

@Murray State - Toss up - bad team but we are on road in a new venue

@South Dakota - Toss up - avg team but on the road

Illinois State - Toss up - good team but at home

There you have it.  somewhere between 4-7 and 7-4.  

4-3 after 7.

Indiana State - W

@Murray State - Toss Up 

@South Dakota - L

Illinois State - Toss Up

7-4 and a play off spot is still obtainable.  Have to win the two toss up game and after yesterday's debacle, Tommy's bad performance and losing Ziebarth, neither will be easy.

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