DU @ UNDon't get swept Saturday thread.

[MafiaMan]

1 hour ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

I agree but does Berry change anything or just keep status quo?

Maybe a new set of NODAK jerseys would help?

[SIOUXELEVENS]

19 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Maybe a new set of NODAK jerseys would help?

Think it may be deeper then that , but it’s all about the $

[SKondrashkin]

1 hour ago, KetoChronos said:

I grew up in TRF and graduated high school in EGF. Senior year my best friend’s dad was a Colonel at the air base, so we had access to unused season tickets. My love for college hockey was given birth watching Sioux games at the old Barn/Quonset in 1968 and 1969. I remember thinking that the Quonset was pretty fancy, as my only point of reference was the old arena in TRF. 
I now live in Boulder Colorado and my wife and I have season tickets to University of Denver games. A few years ago I still pulled for the Sioux, but now I’m all in on the Pioneers. 
It’s a different hockey culture here in Denver. There’s rarely talk of the Penrose Cup. Measuring a team’s success on winning the conference on paper only goes so far. UND might have won multiple Penrose Cups, but Denver and Minnesota Duluth have won four of the past five NCAA championships. Every Denver fan knows that the goal every year is the national championship. No one mourns if we don’t win it all, but that’s the ever-present target. 
North Dakota has a great team, but I don’t think they deal with adversity very well. This season they’re looking for quick-and-easy, not showing up consistently when required to do the hard work forechecking and in the corners. Against Denver this series, especially on Saturday night, UND committed multiple turnovers because they seemed to be looking for the fast break. Lazy passes amount to wishful thinking at this level of play. 
I don’t know that much about Brad Berry. It just seems to me that North Dakota expects the competition to roll over and play dead. It’s not a matter of talent. You’ve got talent in spades. Something is amiss with the commitment to grind it out, in what is essentially a grind it out sport. 
 

This is a very good take.  

Perhaps this program has become a victim of its own sense of entitlement.  
Who else has ‘the Palace on the Prairie’, new uniforms all the time, a Through These Doors media show, etc.    
Maybe our mentality resembles the Gophers more than we like to admit. 

Do we still expect teams to show up at the Ralph, be in awe of the place, our culture and history, and roll over and die?    Yea maybe.  

 

The sky isn’t falling.  We’re coming off 3 straight league titles.  That said, if this team doesn’t get its act together, we’ll also have missed the playoffs 3 times in the past 6 seasons.  
We pride ourselves on a lunchpail work mentality, yet Berry teams have been wildly inconsistent in playing as such. 
i dunno.  

[The Sicatoka]

42 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Maybe a new set of NODAK jerseys would help?

Help … whom. And how. 

[Wilbur]

1 hour ago, MafiaMan said:

Maybe a new set of NODAK jerseys would help?

I think this would help a number of ways and a number of people. 

[Irish]

44 minutes ago, SKondrashkin said:

This is a very good take.  

Perhaps this program has become a victim of its own sense of entitlement.  
Who else has ‘the Palace on the Prairie’, new uniforms all the time, a Through These Doors media show, etc.    
Maybe our mentality resembles the Gophers more than we like to admit. 

Do we still expect teams to show up at the Ralph, be in awe of the place, our culture and history, and roll over and die?    Yea maybe.  

 

The sky isn’t falling.  We’re coming off 3 straight league titles.  That said, if this team doesn’t get its act together, we’ll also have missed the playoffs 3 times in the past 6 seasons.  
We pride ourselves on a lunchpail work mentality, yet Berry teams have been wildly inconsistent in playing as such. 
i dunno.  

Remember when we used to mock the Gophers for winning the Big 10 and then flaming out in the playoffs?  Well, that's us now.

 

[Blackheart]

26 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I think this would help a number of ways and a number of people. 

Well, new NODAK jerseys are not helping the team.

[Blackheart]

2 hours ago, KetoChronos said:

I grew up in TRF and graduated high school in EGF. Senior year my best friend’s dad was a Colonel at the air base, so we had access to unused season tickets. My love for college hockey was given birth watching Sioux games at the old Barn/Quonset in 1968 and 1969. I remember thinking that the Quonset was pretty fancy, as my only point of reference was the old arena in TRF. 
I now live in Boulder Colorado and my wife and I have season tickets to University of Denver games. A few years ago I still pulled for the Sioux, but now I’m all in on the Pioneers. 
It’s a different hockey culture here in Denver. There’s rarely talk of the Penrose Cup. Measuring a team’s success on winning the conference on paper only goes so far. UND might have won multiple Penrose Cups, but Denver and Minnesota Duluth have won four of the past five NCAA championships. Every Denver fan knows that the goal every year is the national championship. No one mourns if we don’t win it all, but that’s the ever-present target. 
North Dakota has a great team, but I don’t think they deal with adversity very well. This season they’re looking for quick-and-easy, not showing up consistently when required to do the hard work forechecking and in the corners. Against Denver this series, especially on Saturday night, UND committed multiple turnovers because they seemed to be looking for the fast break. Lazy passes amount to wishful thinking at this level of play. 
I don’t know that much about Brad Berry. It just seems to me that North Dakota expects the competition to roll over and play dead. It’s not a matter of talent. You’ve got talent in spades. Something is amiss with the commitment to grind it out, in what is essentially a grind it out sport. 
 

Agreed…not seeing the normal amount of sandpaper in their game the last few seasons.

[The Sicatoka]

11 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

Well, new NODAK jerseys are not helping the team.

Who are they helping.  

[Oxbow6]

2 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

Maybe a new set of NODAK jerseys would help?

 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

4 hours ago, SKondrashkin said:

This is a very good take.  Perhaps this program has become a victim of its own sense of entitlement.  
Who else has ‘the Palace on the Prairie’, new uniforms all the time, a Through These Doors media show, etc.    
Maybe our mentality resembles the Gophers more than we like to admit. 

Do we still expect teams to show up at the Ralph, be in awe of the place, our culture and history, and roll over and die?    Yea maybe.  

 

The sky isn’t falling.  We’re coming off 3 straight league titles.  That said, if this team doesn’t get its act together, we’ll also have missed the playoffs 3 times in the past 6 seasons.  
We pride ourselves on a lunchpail work mentality, yet Berry teams have been wildly inconsistent in playing as such. 
i dunno.  

I think we may be getting close to a Bingo.

[burd]

9 hours ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

I don’t remember any of them being this fundamentally bad. 

They lost all those games for a reason.  

[siouxnatty#8]

19 hours ago, Prison_Mike said:

Berry drawing up line combos…

Here's my take on lines. I think barring injuries we go back to Senden Hain and Jammer as our shutdown line, Ness Albrecht and Portz on a line, Blake Mclaughlin and James on an all frosh line and lastly Schmaltz Gaber Caufield (possibly Kunz or Constanteni) and stick with the same lineup and let them get some chemistry instead of making wholesale line changes every week. I can't take all these line changes every single week. The players are probably frustrated and they're playing like they're frustrated. No chemistry and it's the coaches fault for making all these lineup changes every fricken series. I know we have talent. More than last year I think. Skate the piss out of the team too cause they look out of shape.

[siouxnatty#8]

On 11/12/2022 at 10:15 PM, Sweethockey said:

Senden hasn’t played like he used to since the Saturday night game against the Gophers. Something is really out of whack with these guys right now.

Senden is much more at home on the shut down line.  Last season the Savoie line went 0 for the series in our building.  Put Senden back in his comfort zone which imo is playing shut down with Hain and Jammer and capitalizing on mistakes by the other teams top line.

[90siouxfan]

Is the out of shape thing something that can be rectified in short order, like a poster suggested "skate them hard all week"?

[SKondrashkin]

6 hours ago, siouxnatty#8 said:

Here's my take on lines. I think barring injuries we go back to Senden Hain and Jammer as our shutdown line, Ness Albrecht and Portz on a line, Blake Mclaughlin and James on an all frosh line and lastly Schmaltz Gaber Caufield (possibly Kunz or Constanteni) and stick with the same lineup and let them get some chemistry instead of making wholesale line changes every week. I can't take all these line changes every single week. The players are probably frustrated and they're playing like they're frustrated. No chemistry and it's the coaches fault for making all these lineup changes every fricken series. I know we have talent. More than last year I think. Skate the piss out of the team too cause they look out of shape.

 

At the very least, the bottom 2 lines should be set in stone as Senden-Jammer-Hain and Albrecht-Ness-Portz.  That gives the forwards a solid defensive foundation (if they play to potential) who can play against any line.    

It's a total waste to bring someone like Senden back and play him in a role he's not suited to play (like with McLaughlin and Gaber saturday).  Hell, it wouldve been better to keep Adam Calder instead.        

 

[siouxforce19]

6 hours ago, siouxnatty#8 said:

Here's my take on lines. I think barring injuries we go back to Senden Hain and Jammer as our shutdown line, Ness Albrecht and Portz on a line, Blake Mclaughlin and James on an all frosh line and lastly Schmaltz Gaber Caufield (possibly Kunz or Constanteni) and stick with the same lineup and let them get some chemistry instead of making wholesale line changes every week. I can't take all these line changes every single week. The players are probably frustrated and they're playing like they're frustrated. No chemistry and it's the coaches fault for making all these lineup changes every fricken series. I know we have talent. More than last year I think. Skate the piss out of the team too cause they look out of shape.

Absolutely not on Schmaltz-Gaber-Caulfield. I mean talk about no chemistry. It wasn’t good last season and didn’t work when they tried it this season. 

[siouxnatty#8]

4 hours ago, SKondrashkin said:

 

At the very least, the bottom 2 lines should be set in stone as Senden-Jammer-Hain and Albrecht-Ness-Portz.  That gives the forwards a solid defensive foundation (if they play to potential) who can play against any line.    

It's a total waste to bring someone like Senden back and play him in a role he's not suited to play (like with McLaughlin and Gaber saturday).  Hell, it wouldve been better to keep Adam Calder instead.        

 

I am all for the all freshman line also. Blake Mclaughlin and james. They would imo create a lot of offense.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

17-8-18 

9-22-26

19-27-10

fourth line mix em up 

[stoneySIOUX]

1 minute ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

17-8-18 

9-22-26

19-27-10

fourth line mix em up 

19-27-10 is fine, but frankly, we need Hain in a scoring role. I think Juddy should play with Jammer and Sendo. Get Hainer in with Gaber and Schmaltz. 

[Siouxfancrazy92]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

17-8-18 

9-22-26

19-27-10

fourth line mix em up 

We already have enough def issues. 22-9 are -11 for the season.  Fwds have to be responsible in the def zone as well as defensemen. 

[stoneySIOUX]

58 minutes ago, siouxnatty#8 said:

I am all for the all freshman line also. Blake Mclaughlin and james. They would imo create a lot of offense.

I just don't know who's going to sustain play on this line. James has shown a little bit of the "getter" mentality, but not consistently. Blake, McLaughlin, and Hainer, maybe?

[siouxforce19]

 

I’ve thought about it, and these are a couple lines I personally would try if I was in charge :

17-8-9

26-22-28

*I decided that since so far both of Caulfield’s goals this season came off great passes by James that we should give them some more time on the same line. If we want 22 and 9 on different lines putting McLaughlin at center with these 2 made sense. The other line we’ve tried before but was what was leftover in my head so I just went with it. *

 

 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

I’m all for trying something different , it’s not working so far this year. 

[siouxnatty#8]

1 hour ago, stoneySIOUX said:

I just don't know who's going to sustain play on this line. James has shown a little bit of the "getter" mentality, but not consistently. Blake, McLaughlin, and Hainer, maybe?

McLaughlin's vision along with Blake's slipperiness in tight. James would have to show some grit but I would like to see this line combo. Hain imo belngs with Senden and Jammer.