Oxbow6 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 9:20 PM, brianvf said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/overtime-goal-is-another-sign-of-progress-for-matteo-costantini Jackson's communication and comments in Berry's absence were refreshing. Blunt and honest. Not typical coach speak. Berry needs to take note so @Wilbur can stop posting in the gameday thread with 11:30 left in the 3rd Berry's post game comments with TH. 1 Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 2:01 PM, siouxkid12 said: https://insidehockey.com/und-hockey-team-has-tall-hill-to-climb-in-second-half/?fbclid=IwAR3uu-oFSRKBkEjYTWGMBnwwGof5FQBBYUVMeRVOWBq8abZ-sTZTDcRSWww why do people still say that UND always has a 2nd half run? Those teams in the past are the ones who had 2nd half runs, hardly anyone on this team has been apart of a second half run. This team has dug itself into a hole in which I sadly think won’t be able to climb out of. A part of, not apart of… I am hopeful of a second half run…but not overly optimistic about it happening. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Jackson's communication and comments in Berry's absence were refreshing. Blunt and honest. Not typical coach speak. Berry needs to take note so @Wilbur can stop posting in the gameday thread with 11:30 left in the 3rd Berry's post game comments with TH. Serious question: What exactly did Jackson say in that article that was different than what Berry would have said? I've heard BB make very similar comments about players who have struggled, had to take some time for reflection and figure out if they wanted to work through it or not. Quote
Wilbur Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Jackson's communication and comments in Berry's absence were refreshing. Blunt and honest. Not typical coach speak. Berry needs to take note so @Wilbur can stop posting in the gameday thread with 11:30 left in the 3rd Berry's post game comments with TH. Too many passengers, not a full sixty.....culture. Ohh wait, its Wednesday.... Quote
hockeytherapy13 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 6 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Jackson's communication and comments in Berry's absence were refreshing. Blunt and honest. Not typical coach speak. Berry needs to take note so @Wilbur can stop posting in the gameday thread with 11:30 left in the 3rd Berry's post game comments with TH. I felt the exact same way. Let him do the interviews from now on so we can get real answers. Quote
N of GF Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, jdub27 said: Serious question: What exactly did Jackson say in that article that was different than what Berry would have said? I've heard BB make very similar comments about players who have struggled, had to take some time for reflection and figure out if they wanted to work through it or not. jdub is correct. What did Jackson say that Berry hasn't said a thousand times in similar terms? For those that can't get thru the paywall, here are Jacksons three quotes from the article. "There's so much there," Jackson said. "There's so much speed. We just thought, 'Give him a shift when there's some open ice there.' He really showed some of those flashes of last year." "He's been in some tough spots and it hasn't gone how he wanted, but I give him a lot of respect for how he's handled everything," Jackson said. "He always looks in the mirror, wants to get better, do video and he knows he's got things he has to improve. I just give him a lot of respect for how he's handled it. If he was ever not getting to play much or sitting out, he's the first one in working. He's a guy you cheer for because of how good of a teammate he is and how much he cares and prepares." "We know he's got it," Jackson said. "He hasn't been feeling very confident so getting that mojo is huge. He's built some trust with the last weekend we played in Kalamazoo and he built upon it again. Hopefully that trend will continue, because we need him in the second half." Oh, Mojo is the answer! lol! There is absolutely nothing "blunt" or "refreshing" about any of this, but apparently the new narrative has been determined. Quote
brianvf Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, N of GF said: jdub is correct. What did Jackson say that Berry hasn't said a thousand times in similar terms? For those that can't get thru the paywall, here are Jacksons three quotes from the article. There is absolutely nothing "blunt" or "refreshing" about any of this, but apparently the new narrative has been determined. I think people were more referencing this article and the quotes in it: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/eight-takeaways-from-unds-exhibition-victory-over-the-u-s-under-18-team Where he said this about OwenMc: Quote "Owen's a great talent," UND associate coach Dane Jackson said. "But I didn't think he was very good in the first period for us. He had some high-risk plays and pucks went the other way. We obviously addressed it a little bit and I thought he had a really strong second and third. He made really good plays without having much risk to his game. "That will be in the video for sure, when you see a guy like that take some tough love a little bit and respond to it and play the right way and play hard. We're really happy to show that to him and the rest of the team." We don't normally see Berry single out specific players for issues like that. 3 Quote
N of GF Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, brianvf said: I think people were more referencing this article and the quotes in it: Okay, could be. The quotes I posted are from the article that Oxbow posted and commented on, and Wilbur replied to. The quotes you posted do sound better, but I wouldn't say that Berry has never called a guy out for playing a bad period. Especially when he can say that the player turned it around and finished the game strong. Very standard 'coach talk' about in-game adjustments. I guess I don't have a specific example, so maybe I'm wrong. 1 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 8:53 AM, MafiaMan said: A part of, not apart of… I am hopeful of a second half run…but not overly optimistic about it happening. I am hopeful of a second half run too but not holding my breath. Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 23 hours ago, N of GF said: Okay, could be. The quotes I posted are from the article that Oxbow posted and commented on, and Wilbur replied to. The quotes you posted do sound better, but I wouldn't say that Berry has never called a guy out for playing a bad period. Especially when he can say that the player turned it around and finished the game strong. Very standard 'coach talk' about in-game adjustments. I guess I don't have a specific example, so maybe I'm wrong. It’s almost ironic that we’re mentioning @Oxbow6 and player/coach quotes…given some semi-recent players paying close attention to his! #FerDaOxbow6 1 Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Yet ANOTHER game with a puck in the back of our own net less than 2:00 into a period, unbelievable. Quote
SIOUXELEVENS Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 I guess Berrys pregame speech falls on deaf ears. Quote
Popular Post burd Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, SIOUXELEVENS said: I guess Berrys pregame speech falls on deaf ears. His in-game adjustment sure worked, though. They dominated after that awful start. Without a stopper in net, you just can't make any mistakes. 5 Quote
brianvf Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/unds-fourth-line-production-making-for-tough-lineup-decisions?fbclid=IwAR3lLlHUuHr4ihKbyFkWhTidrPgAB0NPtSzee0TJ2H59nSHYVjjD-8CTMlY Quote UND did something Saturday night that you won't often see in college hockey. It scratched four NHL draft picks. There's no doubt the coaching staff wants to work them in, but it's becoming difficult to make lineup decisions — especially up front — because UND is getting outstanding production from its fourth line. Quote "I love that kid," Berry said. "At the end of the day, he takes whatever is given to him. Both nights, he was labeled as the 13th forward. He just takes a few shifts and shows the coaching staff he's dependable, reliable and effective. And you have to play him. He was huge. In that second period, he got a goal and had an assist. He spark-plugged our team. You need that. It's encouraging because he's only a freshman. I'm glad he's going to be around for a while." Quote UND scratched Buffalo Sabres draft pick Matteo Costantini and Vancouver Canucks draft pick Jackson Kunz for the series finale. Costantini entered the weekend on a roll, scoring an overtime winner in an exhibition against the U.S. Under-18 Team on New Year's Eve. Berry acknowledged it's tough for players with high-end potential to sit out. "It is, it really is," Berry said. "But they agreed to come to North Dakota because they're all team-first. I think, at the end of the day, I think they know they have to get better in a few different areas, as well as the rest of our team here. But they have to be patient to know they are going to get another opportunity. That's how we've had success here. Nobody's bigger than the program. And it's when you get your opportunity, you have to do it. 4 Quote
Goon Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 2:25 PM, brianvf said: I think people were more referencing this article and the quotes in it: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/eight-takeaways-from-unds-exhibition-victory-over-the-u-s-under-18-team Where he said this about OwenMc: We don't normally see Berry single out specific players for issues like that. Do you know for a fact he doesn’t call players out? Berry chooses not to air his grievances in public. The rough conversations happen out of the public eye. I’ve got that from players I interviewed in the past. I think it’s a smart tactic. Would like him to blast his players in public. That doesn’t really work with todays players. It’s a whole new world compared the old days when the Gen-X-ers played. What worked for us doesn’t necessarily work today. Quote
Goon Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, brianvf said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/unds-fourth-line-production-making-for-tough-lineup-decisions?fbclid=IwAR3lLlHUuHr4ihKbyFkWhTidrPgAB0NPtSzee0TJ2H59nSHYVjjD-8CTMlY Berry mentioned the players that were drafted not playing. My question is what have those drafted players done to earn a spot in the lineup? They’ve been invisible on the score sheets this year. Constantini, has what, two points? And a in drafted player like Ness has more goals do we sit him over the others? Quote
AJS Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Goon said: Berry mentioned the players that were drafted not playing. My question is what have those drafted players done to earn a spot in the lineup? They’ve been invisible on the score sheets this year. Constantini, has what, two points? And a in drafted player like Ness has more goals do we sit him over the others? I'm interested in your take on this question. Not calling out any player by name, but do you think there is anyone who is currently considered a lock to be in the lineup that you question why they are? To me, there are a handful of "locks" that I don't necessarily see the difference between them are others that are in / out of the lineup. 1 Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, AJS said: I'm interested in your take on this question. Not calling out any player by name, but do you think there is anyone who is currently considered a lock to be in the lineup that you question why they are? To me, there are a handful of "locks" that I don't necessarily see the difference between them are others that are in / out of the lineup. Speculating here, but I'm guessing while you are not seeing a difference in practice there may be a difference in the weight room, in practice, etc. 1 Quote
Goon Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, AJS said: I'm interested in your take on this question. Not calling out any player by name, but do you think there is anyone who is currently considered a lock to be in the lineup that you question why they are? To me, there are a handful of "locks" that I don't necessarily see the difference between them are others that are in / out of the lineup. That's a fair question: I’ve seen people say that person should be playing because their drafted. I disagree with the concept. For example Kunz and Costantini were mentioned. From what I seen neither have given the coaching staff a reason to keep them in the lineup. I honestly, can't understand why Matteo (sp) isn't producing. He had 20 points his freshmen year. I was ready to put him on a milk carton. It's about numbers and winning hockey games. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Goon said: I’ve seen people say that person should be playing because their drafted. I disagree with the concept. Kunz and Costantini have given the coaching staff a reason to keep them in the lineup. Kunz was a top line guy at one point this season. Constantini has more upside than half the forwards and has played well at times. Other are consistently in the lineup just grinding away with little risk but almost no reward. Strinden better not sit anymore unless hurt. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Speculating here, but I'm guessing while you are not seeing a difference in practice there may be a difference in the weight room, in practice, etc. That philosophy follows the xG nonsense too IMO. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: That philosophy follows the xG nonsense too IMO. Well don't stop there, please expound Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Well don't stop there, please expound Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Lol appreciate the gif So the coaches shouldn't take into account how a player looks in practice? Like at all? Quote
brianvf Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/und-still-searching-for-a-goaltender-to-take-the-reins Quote UND will head into a rematch with Western Michigan, still the nation's top-scoring team, this weekend with a team save percentage of .873 — tied with Air Force for the worst mark in the country. It has been 20 years since UND finished a season with a team save percentage below .894. Kleven and Strinden take home weekly honors: Quote UND junior Tyler Kleven is the NCHC defenseman of the week after scoring four goals, including two game-winners against Lindenwood. The former Fargo Davies blue liner has five goals and 11 points this season. UND freshman Ben Strinden is the NCHC rookie of the week after a three-point weekend. Strinden had an assist in Friday's series opener and scored a goal and tallied an assist Saturday. The former Fargo South-Shanley player has six points on the season. Quote
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