petey23 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I'm sure there were some early days of the disease when they weren't sure exactly how the disease was spread. Out of abundance of caution they should have forced people into their homes and forced all non-essential businesses closed. Once they found out it was spread through intercourse, a prudent course of action would have been to force people all men to walk around with condoms on and force women to wear a diaphragm over their cervix. There is a lot of similarity in how they used fear porn and spread a lot of false and exaggerated information with regards to HIV transmission and AIDS as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kab said: Teachers unions in California are demanding Medicare for all Another shocker...……..CA can't secede from the rest of the union fast enough. STFU and get back in the classroom and do your job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said: This is just getting boring now. Maybe the Trump cult here should start ratcheting up the talk about "The Deep State"? That might help! If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kab said: Teachers unions in California are demanding Medicare for all So heroic, it's all about educating the next generation with these teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Teachers Unions....sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I don’t care if they are union teachers during school just teach in their off time do whatever the hell they want just don’t indoctrinate kids on school time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kab said: If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ? Um.... Citizens voting to replace Trump with Biden. You don't know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Someone posted this earlier. This is why I don't trust the numbers. Quote ORLANDO, Fla. - A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official. FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us. “The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said. Dr. Pino was asked if the man’s data was removed. “I don’t think so. I have to double-check,” Pino said. “We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers -- it’s 100…it doesn’t make any difference if it's 99 -- but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Another shocker...……..CA can't secede from the rest of the union fast enough. STFU and get back in the classroom and do your job. One of the largest teachers unions in the state of California, the United Teachers Los Angeles with 35,000 members, says public schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District should not reopen if certain policies are not implemented on the state and national level, including defunding the police and implementing Medicare for All. The union called on local authorities to "keep school campuses closed when the semester is scheduled to begin on Aug. 18." The union’s demands listed in a recently released policy paper include implementing a moratorium on charter schools, defunding the police, increasing taxes on the wealthy, implementing Medicare-for-All, and the U.S. Senate and President Donald Trump approving House Democrats’ HEROES Act, which allocates an additional $116 billion in federal education funding to states. Tell me again what this has to do with safety concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, petey23 said: One of the largest teachers unions in the state of California, the United Teachers Los Angeles with 35,000 members, says public schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District should not reopen if certain policies are not implemented on the state and national level, including defunding the police and implementing Medicare for All. W.T.A.F.??? Some of these places have lost their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Top HHS official says ‘most’ of the Coronavirus transmission is from asymptomatic people Quote Most transmission of the coronavirus is coming from people who are asymptomatic and never develop any symptoms, a top official from the Department of Health and Human Services said Friday. “Just feeling like you want to go get a test is really not the best strategy, but we know that most of the spread are from asymptomatic people, particularly young adults, so you have to cast a wide net and I think we’re able to do that,” Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for HHS, said in an interview on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Um.... Citizens voting to replace Trump with Biden. You don't know that? As long as it’s citizens but if Biden wins then you will have non citizens voting amazing if you like trump you are in a cult’ if you like Biden you are a citizen do you understand ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Another weak example. I believe that the right wingers response was that those that were affected or could easily be affected should take precautions.....i.e. personal responsibility.....look up the concept. There weren't mandates flying around that even people at no risk (husband and wife for example) had to wear rubbers when they got it on. So how would personal responsibility apply to the thousands of asymptomatic covid carriers today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Kab said: If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ? They don't exist. There are Trump supporters and people who don't like Trump. No such thing as Biden supporters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I am by no means anti-mask, but this might have gone too far. I wore one the other day at Walmart and at Menard's. Feinstein: No stimulus money to states that don't mandate the wearing of masks Quote WASHINGTON - U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is proposing withholding coronavirus relief money to states that do not require masks. The senator this week wrote a letter to President Donald Trump asking him to issue a nationwide mandate for face coverings. Feinstein wants to amend the next COVID relief bill to that states that don’t enforce face coverings can’t receive stimulus money. This comes as new research suggests if everyone consistently wore a mask, the pandemic could be curbed in just a couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Grand Forks retail outlets to require customers to wear masks Quote Many retailers in the region have adopted a face-covering policy or will soon have one. Following shortly on the heels of Walmart’s July 15 announcement that all stores will require shoppers to wear masks, several other national retailers have followed suit. Face-covering policies are popping up as cases of coronavirus continue to rise in the region and across the country. A July 16 USA Today report states Target will begin requiring masks on Aug. 1. The policy does not include people who have underlying health conditions and young children. Customers who don’t have masks will be provided a disposable one at the entrance. CVS also has announced it will institute a mask policy at all of its locations. “With the recent spike in COVID-19 infections, we're joining others in taking the next step and requiring all customers to wear face coverings when entering any of our stores throughout the country effective Monday, July 20,” stated Jon Roberts, chief operating officer of CVS, in a Thursday press release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: So how would personal responsibility apply to the thousands of asymptomatic covid carriers today? Serious question: How did you feel about asymptomatic carriers of infectious disease before March? How can you not see that nothing has changed from February as it pertains to infectious diseases and yet here we are. For all of you science thumpers, where was the double blind, placebo controlled study to scientifically prove that we should respond in the complete opposite way as we have for literally hundreds of years with infectious diseases. Quarantine the sick and vulnerable, has been the way it's been done since the beginning of time. Yet this time we did it differently, can you answer why that is? Without any scientific study to back up that approach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Goon said: I am by no means anti-mask, but this might have gone too far. I wore one the other day at Walmart and at Menard's. Feinstein: No stimulus money to states that don't mandate the wearing of masks Why would they withhold funds from the states that will need it the most? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Serious question: How did you feel about asymptomatic carriers of infectious disease before March? How can you not see that nothing has changed from February as it pertains to infectious diseases and yet here we are. For all of you science thumpers, where was the double blind, placebo controlled study to scientifically prove that we should respond in the complete opposite way as we have for literally hundreds of years with infectious diseases. Quarantine the sick and vulnerable, has been the way it's been done since the beginning of time. Yet this time we did it differently, can you answer why that is? Without any scientific study to back up that approach. Easy: COVID-19 is the most unique, devastating, mutating, exponentially threatening virus in the history of the universe. Remember the term "exponential spread" being thrown around a thousand times a day by the fear porn crowd back in March-April? yah, not so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: So how would personal responsibility apply to the thousands of asymptomatic covid carriers today? You let them live their lives as they see fit. They aren't sick. That's what asymptomatic means. Your answer is to lock everyone back down in this country until a vaccine is found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Oxbow6 said: You let them live their lives as they see fit. They aren't sick. That's what asymptomatic means. Your answer is to lock everyone back down in this country until a vaccine is found. That's not my answer. My answer is a mask requirement since we know it can help slow the spread and allow our country to open back up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Redneksioux said: That's not my answer. My answer is a mask requirement since we know it can help slow the spread and allow our country to open back up. Fair enough but slowing spread isn't on the same level as eliminating positives test altogether which is where the narrative has completely shifted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: That's not my answer. My answer is a mask requirement since we know it can help slow the spread and allow our country to open back up. Do you actually believe that if we had 100% compliance to mask wearing as country that the powers that be would open everything up? Open your eyes man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH Golfer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 It is reported that school age children cannot transmit Covid to others, but young adults, many of whom are asymptomatic, can transmit the virus. What is the magic age between non transmissible and transmissible? I asked the google, no answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Serious question: How did you feel about asymptomatic carriers of infectious disease before March? How can you not see that nothing has changed from February as it pertains to infectious diseases and yet here we are. For all of you science thumpers, where was the double blind, placebo controlled study to scientifically prove that we should respond in the complete opposite way as we have for literally hundreds of years with infectious diseases. Quarantine the sick and vulnerable, has been the way it's been done since the beginning of time. Yet this time we did it differently, can you answer why that is? Without any scientific study to back up that approach. Serious answer. I've been very aware of the risks prior to March as I have a couple immunocompromised individuals in my family. Now that our country is losing roughly 1,000 lives/day to a novel virus that we have no idea of long term side effects, sure my concern has grown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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