Redneksioux Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I keep hearing we needed mass testing. But did we know what to test for until it was rolling? And how would we have gear to test for what we didn’t know to test for? I seem to recall we didn’t take advantage of a test from the world health organization early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 If ND would test 10000 people tomorrow would we have 1000 positives just because more test were done? Funny that lots of people thought Georgia was going to blowup after they were one of the first states to open things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: I seem to recall we didn’t take advantage of a test from the world health organization early on. Did we or anyone have the gear to implement it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Most definitely. How often do your think nursing home employees should be tested per week right now? How often people are tested and people being turned away from testing opportunities are two different things. Are people actually being denied a test when they want one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 If you adhered to the lockdown completely, there would be no reason to get tested. my family did not leave the house for 5 weeks. Zip. Nada. Nobody had symptoms. Why would we be tested? Airborne exposure in the backyard? Virus on packaging of grocery delivery? If we got it that way, well, number was up. We live A thousand + miles from family over 45. We’re not infecting people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Did we or anyone have the gear to implement it. Obviously we didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 90siouxfan Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: I seem to recall we didn’t take advantage of a test from the world health organization early on. your trust in the WHO undermines your credibility... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: How often people are tested and people being turned away from testing opportunities are two different things. Are people actually being denied a test when they want one? Yes- if there is no logical reason on God’s earth to test them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, UND1983 said: How often people are tested and people being turned away from testing opportunities are two different things. Are people actually being denied a test when they want one? The only way to keep covid out of our skilled nursing facilities is a daily rapid test for everyone coming in. Anything short of that, it will find it’s way in. So cal it what you want, but we don’t have the testing capabilities that we need. add to this...how many people were turned away from testing in Fargo just a few days ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Most definitely. How often do your think nursing home employees should be tested per week right now? Every day. That's where it goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Just now, Redneksioux said: The only way to keep covid out of our skilled nursing facilities is a daily rapid test for everyone coming in. Anything short of that, it will find it’s way in. So cal it what you want, but we don’t have the testing capabilities that we need. That's what I am asking. Are the nursing home workers saying there is a lack of testing, therefore they aren't being tested due to availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, UND1983 said: That's what I am asking. Are the nursing home workers saying there is a lack of testing, therefore they aren't being tested due to availability? I think most would tell you they’d like a daily rapid test before entering. The residents and families would like us there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, UND1983 said: That's what I am asking. Are the nursing home workers saying there is a lack of testing, therefore they aren't being tested due to availability? I grew up working in a skilled nursing home for years as my parents owned and operated one. Rednek's fascination with a sliver of the population is astonishing. Great residents in those facilities but they are there for a reason. The staff that cares for those residents are unsung individuals. I have seen first hand many years influenza ravage a facility. Unfortunately sick elderly folks who get sicker don't do well. That's reality. Fargo Forum had 40 obituaries today with most of those being elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: I think most would tell you they’d like a daily rapid test before entering. The residents and families would like us there as well. Great. That's not what I am asking. Are they wanting a test and not getting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: The only way to keep covid out of our skilled nursing facilities is a daily rapid test for everyone coming in. Anything short of that, it will find it’s way in. So cal it what you want, but we don’t have the testing capabilities that we need. add to this...how many people were turned away from testing in Fargo just a few days ago? So I can expect the testing rate to go from 3%+ to 10% if and when those people get tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hasn't the positive rate been 2 to 3% pretty much everyday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Hasn't the positive rate been 2 to 3% pretty much everyday? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: We didn't half ass anything......we got Fauici'd. He does deserve a lot of credit for this mess. Wanna talk about someone who missed the concept of the forest. Wrong again. Our elected officials failed us. Fauci merely provides advice. It’s up to our elected leaders to weight the options presented before them and formulate policy based on what they think is right. If our leaders chose to go with good advice, or bad advice, that’s on them. No one else. The buck stops at the top. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Wrong again. Our elected officials failed us. Fauci merely provides advice. It’s up to our elected leaders to weight the options presented before them and formulate policy based on what they think is right. If our leaders chose to go with good advice, or bad advice, that’s on them. No one else. The buck stops at the top. Its Trumps fault. I mean, lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Which failed us? Noam in SD? Bergum? Newsom in CA? The Michigan governor? Cuomo? The NJ governor? MN governor? I’d say the elected official who haven’t ended “wet markets” in China failed us. Those are the main suspect for MERS, SARS, swine flu, and now Ol’-19. Elect me and those markets will no longer be a problem* *And I’ll fix the China bio-weapons program too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Wrong again. Our elected officials failed us. Fauci merely provides advice. It’s up to our elected leaders to weight the options presented before them and formulate policy based on what they think is right. If our leaders chose to go with good advice, or bad advice, that’s on them. No one else. The buck stops at the top. You're naive or simplistic or both......what if "the top" said screw Fauci and the models we are going full blown Sweden?? The models were trash and Fauci's narrow view was trash. Throw in the dick measuring contest between the governors and here we are. Trump, Biden, Obama.....they all would have received the same advice and data. Can't imagine anyone at "the top" would have handled this perfectly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Its Trumps fault. I mean, lol. Yes. Trump crapped the bed. But so also did tons of other elected officials, everywhere. Both Rep and Dem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: You're naive or simplistic or both......what if "the top" said screw Fauci and the models we are going full blown Sweden?? The models were trash and Fauci's narrow view was trash. Throw in the dick measuring contest between the governors and here we are. Trump, Biden, Obama.....they all would have received the same advice and data. Can't imagine anyone at "the top" would have handled this perfectly. Dynato and UNDlawguy think differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 If the concern was overwhelming the health system, why weren’t the societal triggers tied to ... (wait for it) ... loading on the health system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: If the concern was overwhelming the health system, why weren’t the societal triggers tied to ... (wait for it) ... loading on the health system. We have a winner......that's a good Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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