Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: I agree that a measure of success would be outstanding. Everyone knows that, but they can’t give that because the situation is too fluid. It is also so varied in the different pockets within the US, and that symptom onset is delayed from exposure. I’m thinking we are probably 7-10 days away from getting a handle on where we sit in CA. Did you confirm that with LeBron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: 16400 deaths worldwide due to coronavirus to date.....fact. 67000+ deaths in the country due to drug overdose last year.......fact. 88000+ deaths in the country due to alcohol related issues last year......fact. Do you need the seasonal flu numbers again too? Average deaths per day in the US over 7400 deaths today from virus 156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: 16400 deaths worldwide due to coronavirus to date.....fact. 67000+ deaths in the country due to drug overdose last year.......fact. 88000+ deaths in the country due to alcohol related issues last year......fact. Do you need the season flu numbers again too? You can spin the numbers any way you want to if it makes you feel better. But you cannot compare a year of deaths on one subject to three months into a pandemic. Remember the coronavirus numbers are in addition to the flu numbers. Have you ever seen NY hospitals as overwhelmed as they are now from the flu? We need to pay attention to how this has played out in other countries ahead of us. This isn't just magically going to go away so we need to stop pretending it will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Both Grand Cities and Columbia Mall in GF remain open. I wonder if after the first reported case in Grand Forks, the malls will close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: But you cannot compare a year of deaths on one subject to three months into a pandemic. Remember the coronavirus numbers are in addition to the flu numbers. Have you ever seen NY hospitals as overwhelmed as they are now from the flu? Those Corona death numbers are for the world. The drug overdose and alcohol related deaths were just for the US. I wonder if the hospitals would be as overwhelmed if the media hadn't blown this up? We'll never know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: You can spin the numbers any way you want to if it makes you feel better. But you cannot compare a year of deaths on one subject to three months into a pandemic. Remember the coronavirus numbers are in addition to the flu numbers. Have you ever seen NY hospitals as overwhelmed as they are now from the flu? We need to pay attention to how this has played out in other countries ahead of us. This isn't just magically going to go away so we need to stop pretending it will. Once people quit focusing on trying to compare the numbers of COVID-19 to other diseases and realize this is about slowing the spread as to not overwhelm hospital capacity, it might finally click with some. If not, the spread will instead drive up death numbers of medical issues across the board due to lack of care available, particularly as it relates to ventialtors and ICU beds. There is no herd immunity or cure at this time. Social distancing is the current best option to slow the spread and hopefully prevent that overwhelming. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Dow will be below 18000 tomorrow if the Senate doesn't nut up. A president from the Federal Reserve stated GDP could drop 50% and unemployment could go to 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Dow will be below 18000 tomorrow if the Senate doesn't nut up. That's my number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, brianvf said: Those Corona death numbers are for the world. The drug overdose and alcohol related deaths were just for the US. I wonder if the hospitals would be as overwhelmed if the media hadn't blown this up? We'll never know. Did the media blow it up? Have you seen what is happening in Italy right now? New York? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Good to see the Senate is going to be part of this crisis solution. Wind and solar energy tax credits, along with tougher airline emissions were attached to the stimulus bill, among other things. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Wind and solar energy tax credits, along with tougher airline emissions were attached to the stimulus bill, among other things. Unbelievable. Dont forget mandatory diversity percentages for coporate board of directors. One of the top 3 to 4 issues that need to be addressed in an economic meltdown. Dont get high and mighty though... 100% the other side would be sliding their own bull$%!# in if roles were reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Did the media blow it up? Have you seen what is happening in Italy right now? New York? South Korea......how are they doing? Good.... right? They're the model we want to follow......right? Their death rate....1.2%. Italy death rate.....just south of 10%. Here in the US our death rate......1.3%. We aren't Italy. We are trying to follow South Korea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Wind and solar energy tax credits, along with tougher airline emissions were attached to the stimulus bill, among other things. Unbelievable. Anything on straws or dolphins??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Anything on straws or dolphins??? It's possible. I heard the House version is 1100 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: South Korea......how are they doing? Good.... right? They're the model we want to follow......right? Their death rate....1.2%. Italy death rate.....just south of 10%. Here in the US our death rate......1.3%. We aren't Italy. You realize we've reacted to this much more similar to Italy than South Korea right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Dont forget mandatory diversity percentages for coporate board of directors. One of the top 3 to 4 issues that need to be addressed in an economic meltdown. Dont get high and mighty though... 100% the other side would be sliding their own bull$%!# in if roles were reversed. It seemed like Mitch and Chuck were fairly close to a plan, but then today it appears the House through a monkey wrench in the whole thing. Not sure why Chuck Schumer allows himself to be lead around by Nancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: You realize we've reacted to this much more similar to Italy than South Korea right? Yes Dr. Martin Makary you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 The head of Home Depot told Congress to get off their asses and get to work’ he said all this BS is why we need term limits mcfooley is blaming Fox News for telling what crap the democrats are trying to put in this is he a brotheR of don lemon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: It seemed like Mitch and Chuck were fairly close to a plan, but then today it appears the House through a monkey wrench in the whole thing. Not sure why Chuck Schumer allows himself to be lead around by Nancy. Haven't you heard Nancy runs the dem senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Theres going to be a mob of people who dont want society back to normal. The ones who love that there is minimal airplanes flying. They will call for another year of this (and want more businesses to close) and attack anyone (and Trump) for trying to resume normalcy. Eventually the adults in the room are going to have to speak up though... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bison Dan said: Haven't you heard Nancy runs the dem senate. Right. I’m saying I don’t know why they let her run it. Chuck should grow a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Right. I’m saying I don’t know why they let her run it. Chuck should grow a pair. Remember the dem motto: "Never let a crisis go to waste" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Lets not let the cure be worse than the problem (Corona virus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Lets not let the cure be worse than the problem (Corona virus) Simple concept for some to comprehend. Are you in the "some" bucket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Simple concept for some to comprehend. Are you in the "some" bucket? D- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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