Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Simple concept for some to comprehend. Are you in the "some" bucket? How would you suggest we deal with this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Old Fella said: D- I'll put you down in the box "no.....I can not comprehend that concept" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: I'll put you down in the box "no.....I can not comprehend that concept" Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: How would you suggest we deal with this now? As is......then as the President plans to reevaluate after the 15 days and go from there. Regardless of what you think.......when this shakes out in the end the death rate is what will matter. 99% of Italy's deaths were over 50 years of age WITH at least three pre-existing health conditions. (Dr. Deborah Birx) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Viruses do not understand lines on maps. They do understand how many people there are though. Our hospitalizations/million are better than Italy’s were at this point in their timeline. So that’s a ray of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, brianvf said: I wonder if the hospitals would be as overwhelmed if the media hadn't blown this up? We'll never know. That's a good point. Everyone suddenly has a cough and fever is running to the hospital to try and get a Corona test done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 When does Walmart and Target rope off everything but groceries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cratter said: That's a good point. Everyone suddenly has a cough and fever is running to the hospital to try and get a Corona test done. Most hospitals and clinics where I live are not letting people in the door without a full screening. In spite of that, beds are filling fast and there are no ventilators available for new patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1440 corona tests in North Dakota. 98% came back negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cratter said: 1440 corona tests in North Dakota. 98% came back negative. Incorrect. How many do we not have results back on yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cratter said: That's a good point. Everyone suddenly has a cough and fever is running to the hospital to try and get a Corona test done. Did the us media cause the worldwide shortage on medical supplies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, mikejm said: Most hospitals and clinics where I live are not letting people in the door without a full screening. In spite of that, beds are filling fast and there are no ventilators available for new patients. The problem with health care in the country is hospitals are pretty much near capacity already in the winter. That's why the focus right now needs to be on ramping up beds and all the equipment needed. When we have an over abundance of ventilators (new companies say they are building them), ppe, and the national guard builds "temp hospital beds"....can we finally start to reopen the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cratter said: When does Walmart and Target rope off everything but groceries? It’s been 6-8 weeks of chaos. I stopped in at Target today and they’re out of toilet paper, mac n cheese, and pregnancy tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Incorrect. How many do we not have results back on yet? If you dont include the 300 pending tests from cass. We are down to 97% of North Dakota Coronavirus tests coming back negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Incorrect. How many do we not have results back on yet? Some? Lots? How many are/were infected in this state that are/were asymptomatic or minimal symptoms that won't get a test, got better/getting better but are not in the checked box as "another case"? Do you remember the percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Correction: My original numbers were correct. 2.2% of ND tests turn out to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Some? Lots? How many are/were infected in this state that are/were asymptomatic or minimal symptoms that won't get a test, got better/getting better but are not in the checked box as "another case"? Do you remember the percentage? No, because we don't have the tests. Unfortunately we aren't in one of the countries that got ahead of this with aggressive testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: No, because we don't have the tests. Unfortunately we aren't in one of the countries that got ahead of this with aggressive testing. Are you proposing 600,000 tests for every man, woman, and child in the state? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Are you proposing 600,000 tests for every man, woman, and child in the state? At this point, no. If I understand correctly every test is taking PPE away from where it is needed in hospitals in order to save lives and save our healthcare workers. At some point in order to beat this thing though, we will need much more aggressive testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammersmith Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: As is......then as the President plans to reevaluate after the 15 days and go from there. Regardless of what you think.......when this shakes out in the end the death rate is what will matter. 99% of Italy's deaths were over 50 years of age WITH at least three pre-existing health conditions. (Dr. Deborah Birx) Incorrect. 99.2% of Italy's deaths came from people with ONE or more pre-existing condition. IIRC, the split was about 25% had one condition, 25% had two, and 50% had three or more. BTW, the pre-existing conditions included high blood pressure and diabetes. By this metric, 40-50% of adult Americans would fall into one of these categories. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: At this point, no. If I understand correctly every test is taking PPE away from where it is needed in hospitals in order to save lives and save our healthcare workers. At some point in order to beat this thing though, we will need much more aggressive testing. So in the meantime, huddle up for the next 4-6 months and wait for the government checks to start rolling in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Can you imagine the uproar in this country over mandated tests??? We were xenophobic for shutting down travel to China. It would’ve been a circus. Our society of freedom loving people would never have tolerated that. Right or Left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Freedom from vs freedom to....a long debated topic. Which is better? For 243 1/2 years the answer here has been freedom to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Cratter said: The problem with health care in the country is hospitals are pretty much near capacity already in the winter. That's why the focus right now needs to be on ramping up beds and all the equipment needed. It is a whole lot faster and cheaper to keep people out of hospitals than it is to add beds and equipment. That's why it is so vital to stop (or, more accurately, slow) the spread of this damn virus. It is going to be painful, but from everything I've heard from my friends and family in healthcare, that's the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: So in the meantime, huddle up for the next 4-6 months and wait for the government checks to start rolling in? Just don't hold your breathe on the check! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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