yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I bought some tonic water...it isn’t a therapeutic dose of quinine, but it can’t hurt...especially with some gin! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 And yes, I know that quinine and chloroquine are not the same thing, but again...can’t hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: Full lockdown in CA...my family has been essentially quarantined for a week and a half, so not a ton changes, but it’s pretty surreal. I’m getting sick of the doom porn out there. I don’t think anyone doubts the seriousness of this, but let’s talk about wins. Gavin saying 22million Californians are going to get sick just insights fear. “doom porn” - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, MafiaMan said: I already said I didn't believe I had it, so why give into the panic and waste a test? My symptoms are very much that of the flu. After a not-so-great day yesterday, I'm feeling significantly better today, although not nearly 100%. I'll be fine. I just assumed, because you missed nearly a week of work, you must have been significantly ill and were refusing to go in for reasons. I’m an old fart though, I come from an era where you’d need to be almost half-dead to miss 4 straight days in a row. Nonetheless, its good to hear you’re doing well. Stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: I bought some tonic water...it isn’t a therapeutic dose of quinine, but it can’t hurt...especially with some gin! Careful...you might catch the 'brown-bag flu'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Cratter said: The media is sharing a chloroquine story because Trump said it today. But of course it wasn't about the positives. It was about how he "lied" (FDA approved). I often wonder if Trump throws little "quirks" into his speeches just to get people to talk about it. I think Trump desperately wants to appear in charge of the situation but lacks the refinement to do so, which sometimes leads to him to overcompensate and misrepresent facts. As a result the experts in the room are forced to step in and say "whoa, let's back the jeep up a second here". There's a considerable difference between saying “We're making progress based on the scientific info that's coming out" as opposed to “We’re super close to finding a cure and it will be available shortly”, or "It's been approved!". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, yzerman19 said: I’m curious why the success of Chloroquine isn’t being more broadly shared...especially by the media Since chloroquine already is approved, Doctor's can prescribe it off label as Dr's do for many drugs. Chloroquine has already had extensive safety checks before it was approved. Same holds for Gilead Science's anti viral drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDfaninMICH Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Smoggy said: OK so I'm going to preface this with I rarely get sick. Like haven't taken a sick day in years (yes I'm dumb bc I don't get anything for not using them). Is it normal to have the flu for 4 days? Doesn't that make you question things??? I know my brother and his family all had it for like 5 days this winter and he was saying how he's never been that sick for that long. The real flu, influenza can absolutely make a healthy person feel like total garbage for four days. A week or more is not uncommon. The stomach “flu”? Four days would indeed be long for that. We need to stop calling that illness “flu” because of the people who say, “Nah, I don’t need a flu shot. If I get flu I’ll only be sick for a day or two anyway.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Up to 19 11 Burleigh 4 Morton 3 Ward 1 Cass Under age 60. 11 Underage 70. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Under age 60. 11 Underage 70. 18 Correction: Under age 60 13 Age 20-29 5 Age 60-69 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Newsom orders all 40+M to "stay at home" in CA. He's talking possibly 8 weeks and half will get infected. Real leadership there. Dow futures down.....again. 7 trillion dollars lost so far. Clearing traders from floor........ that'll help calm the markets. I should have asked Diane Feinstein or Richard Burr for trading tips. DeBlasio letting out Rikers' convicts with other state doing the same thing. Let's deal with a public health issue by compounding it by decreasing public safety. Brilliant. If the Plaquenil/Z-Pak combo is the ticket package it in a Pez dispenser, military cargo drop it everywhere and let's get on with our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, keikla said: Amen to finding a new term for stomach "flu". The real flu went through my dept this winter and most were out for 1-2 weeks. Update on covid patients: seeing multiple patients in their 40s with no comorbidities now crashing and vented... Early anecdotal reports from colleagues in the area say roughly 20% of ICU covid patients are young without known comorbidities. Are you hitting them with Chloroquine and Zpack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Cratter said: Employee at Amazon warehouse tests positive for Coronavirus and it reopens 24 hours later. Let me get this straight. So nonessential businesses can't be open in some states. But when an employee actually has Coronavirus its completely fine to have that business open? https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/19/21186322/amazon-warehouse-coronavirus-covid-19-worker-tested-positive-delivery-station-queens-new-york I can't take a dump at a North Dakota rest area but I can go rub elbows right now in NYC with people who were just rubbing elbows with a highly contagious individual. That make a lot of sense. At what point is this all just grandstanding. Maybe with some modifications the rest areas could allow for drive-thru dumping. Since apparently there’s no problem with one person in a confined space handing food and money to hundreds of people per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, keikla said: We're looking into that. The study Elon Musk tweeted had 6 people in the treatment arm... FDA and Dr. Hahn need to get out of the way on this one. Both Plaq and Z-Pak aren't "new" meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Look for Walz to go Newsom within 24 hours........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochsioux Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Look for Walz to go Newsom within 24 hours........ I think we will see a nationwide quarantine fairly soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: FDA and Dr. Hahn need to get out of the way on this one. Both Plaq and Z-Pak aren't "new" meds. And both are abundant. The potential prophylactic use of Plaq has me thinking they should hand it out like candy at a parade right now. Bonus- no malaria either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Look for Walz to go Newsom within 24 hours........ I'll see your 24 hours and raise you 16 hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: I'll see your 24 hours and raise you 16 hours... I’m gonna go with a 2:00 pm presser today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Goldman Sachs and Bank of America estimating next Thursday's jobless report to skyrocket from 280K yesterday to 2.25-3M. 14500 confirmed virus cases. NY state has 40% of total. NYC 30% of total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, keikla said: The evil drug companies coming up big right now. First Bayer, now Teva. Actually Teva is probably better cause they're giving it directly to hospitals rather than the government. https://www.tevausa.com/news-and-media/press-releases/teva-to-donate-potential-covid-19-treatment-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-tablets-to-hospitals-nationwide-/ Good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, keikla said: The evil drug companies coming up big right now. First Bayer, now Teva. Actually Teva is probably better cause they're giving it directly to hospitals rather than the government. https://www.tevausa.com/news-and-media/press-releases/teva-to-donate-potential-covid-19-treatment-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-tablets-to-hospitals-nationwide-/ Public relations race. Also, with the collapse in global travel they probably have loads sitting around. Maybe even some nearing expiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, keikla said: Absolutely, but I'll take what I can get. How do we get the companies of the other backordered meds to enter the race?! Start an online petition. Use social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, keikla said: Absolutely, but I'll take what I can get. How do we get the companies of the other backordered meds to enter the race?! I’m not hearing any shortages with the major chain and specialty pharmacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, keikla said: The evil drug companies coming up big right now. First Bayer, now Teva. Actually Teva is probably better cause they're giving it directly to hospitals rather than the government. https://www.tevausa.com/news-and-media/press-releases/teva-to-donate-potential-covid-19-treatment-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-tablets-to-hospitals-nationwide-/ What a concept! Has someone alerted CNN and Sean Penn to this latest development? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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