darell1976 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I think change needs to happen definitely next season. Last season injuries caused a lot of problems but that excuse doesn’t equate this season, it’s on the coaches. Offensive play calling is horrible, our special teams couldn’t out kick GF Central, and our passing defense is bad. I hate to say it but another overhaul from top to bottom may need to happen before we end up with another Muss crisis. I hope Chaves sees the need for change and finds money to get some decent replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, darell1976 said: I think change needs to happen definitely next season. Last season injuries caused a lot of problems but that excuse doesn’t equate this season, it’s on the coaches. Offensive play calling is horrible, our special teams couldn’t out kick GF Central, and our passing defense is bad. I hate to say it but another overhaul from top to bottom may need to happen before we end up with another Muss crisis. I hope Chaves sees the need for change and finds money to get some decent replacements. I think you hit the nail on the head.... next season and figure out what the issues are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: Where is jdub to put this loss on inadequate locker rooms, coach's offices and meeting rooms. Oh and forgot the 52% revenue being pillaged by the REA. Why smile about it? Locker rooms and such lure recruits, and the 52% could pay for equipment and salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, darell1976 said: Why smile about it? Locker rooms and such lure recruits, and the 52% could pay for equipment and salaries. Nah. Then they can bring back women's hockey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Now that the seasons over, last year we could blame injuries and those heal. How much do we get to blame injuries this year? I don't see much that says next year will be any better than this year. Everything was set up perfectly for this team to make the playoffs (including transfer QB and Running Back) and they didn't get there. Are more transfers the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Maybe ask KEM for some input on a new coaching staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cratter said: Now that the seasons over, last year we could blame injuries and those heal. How much do we get to blame injuries this year? I don't see much that says next year will be any better than this year. Everything was set up perfectly for this team to make the playoffs (including transfer QB and Running Back) and they didn't get there. Are more transfers the answer? More transfers aren't the answer, they're just washouts from other programs. Look at Kett, he didn't become our miracle cure. The answer obviously is recruting better players and retaining them. Hopefully Boltman is ready at QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Are there even doubts in the players minds: Quote “We played the game to stay alive, not step on their throat,” Oliveira said. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 So we fire the staff and then how.many more years and national title will NDSU win before we become competitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, johnsowe said: So we fire the staff and then how.many more years and national title will NDSU win before we become competitive? Why is NDSU on your mind? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feff Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, johnsowe said: So we fire the staff and then how.many more years and national title will NDSU win before we become competitive? Doesn't matter what NDSU is doing at this point. At this point we can't even reach the playoffs so why are we bringing up national titles? This staff isn't getting it done, you don't sit there and keep hammering your head into the same wall, you move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We held on to muss too long lets not make the same mistake again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Feff said: Doesn't matter what NDSU is doing at this point. At this point we can't even reach the playoffs so why are we bringing up national titles? This staff isn't getting it done, you don't sit there and keep hammering your head into the same wall, you move on. I agree with this that what staff UND has doesn't have any bearing on NDSU's national title run. However, stubborn and predicable play calling isn't exclusive to UND. NDSU;s OC and Klieman insisted on running the ball all day even though YSU was selling out on the run. They could have scored 40 points if they had let Stick air it out today. NDSU is lucky at times they have superior players. I really believe this was UND's opportunity to make a run. They had a very favorable non conference schedule and a very weak BSC schedule. I know many on this site like to poo poo the MVFC, but UND will find out how tough it really is week in and week out very soon. There are no Sac States and UNS's in the MVFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It is interesting because I wanted DeBoer at when Bubba was hired mainly because I thought the program needed new blood and to stop living in the past. If you Follow DeBoer and his career I am not certain he would have been the answer though. I don't agree with many that the Rudy is the root of all problems but play calling and offensive consistency is a major issue. The Defense has not been great the last 2 seasons and I hate the blitz every play mentality we are currently using. Special teams is as bad as I have ever seen it at UND which has cost us 2 games this season. This firing the coaches discussion wouldn't be happening if that issue was fixed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, johnsowe said: So we fire the staff and then how.many more years and national title will NDSU win before we become competitive? If we don’t fire the staff, we will never be nationally competitive. Does that honestly sound like a better alternative to you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Cratter said: Why is NDSU on your mind? Because I do not want to lose to them every year and sick of hearing about them. I thought with Bubba we had a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: If we don’t fire the staff, we will never be nationally competitive. Does that honestly sound like a better alternative to you? I guess I was thinking not fire everyone just a shake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: I agree with this that what staff UND has doesn't have any bearing on NDSU's national title run. However, stubborn and predicable play calling isn't exclusive to UND. NDSU;s OC and Klieman insisted on running the ball all day even though YSU was selling out on the run. They could have scored 40 points if they had let Stick air it out today. NDSU is lucky at times they have superior players. I really believe this was UND's opportunity to make a run. They had a very favorable non conference schedule and a very weak BSC schedule. I know many on this site like to poo poo the MVFC, but UND will find out how tough it really is week in and week out very soon. There are no Sac States and UNS's in the MVFC. Und with this coaching staff gets throttled 3/4 of the games in the mvfc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Cratter said: Are there even doubts in the players minds: Feel bad for Brady O. You could see how much he wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, UNDBIZ said: Feel bad for Brady O. You could see how much he wanted it. Thank you seniors for giving it your all when the coaches were giving it maybe 25%. Feel bad for the young men. They deserve better as the talent was there. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Its time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: I agree with this that what staff UND has doesn't have any bearing on NDSU's national title run. However, stubborn and predicable play calling isn't exclusive to UND. NDSU;s OC and Klieman insisted on running the ball all day even though YSU was selling out on the run. They could have scored 40 points if they had let Stick air it out today. NDSU is lucky at times they have superior players. I really believe this was UND's opportunity to make a run. They had a very favorable non conference schedule and a very weak BSC schedule. I know many on this site like to poo poo the MVFC, but UND will find out how tough it really is week in and week out very soon. There are no Sac States and UNS's in the MVFC. The Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: If we don’t fire the staff, we will never be nationally competitive. Does that honestly sound like a better alternative to you? Pretty sure we are nationally competitive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: Thank you seniors for giving it your all when the coaches were giving it maybe 25%. Feel bad for the young men. They deserve better as the talent was there. That is BS man, do you honestly think the coaches aren't working and trying to win? I promise you they put in more time and effort than you ever have in your life. Football coaches put in more time and effort than you could possibly know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feff Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BigGame said: That is BS man, do you honestly think the coaches aren't working and trying to win? I promise you they put in more time and effort than you ever have in your life. Football coaches put in more time and effort than you could possibly know. The effort is there I'm sure. Bubba bleeds green. However, the skill is not present and there has been major mismanagement. No way, no how should Rudy have ever been the OC to begin with. Him calling plays most games feels like tying one hand behind the back for this offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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