Siouxperfan7 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: Or they can paint it on tomorrow if they want. Unfortunately the Alerus decided to put two massive Alerus logos alteadyvat midfield so it would look waybto crowded. It’s not like the Fargodome where you have two text lines on either side of the logo. You would have 3 Lois at midfield. Way to busy. I am fairly confident that when it gets replaced, you will see the logo at midfield. The Alerus has already shown they comitement to working with UND in their rebranding efforts. Something the Ralph refuses to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Cratter said: Or they can paint it on tomorrow if they want. Based on what? Are they redoing the turf or did they change the apparent sponsorship language? It's not like the court at the Betty or ice at the REA is scheduled to be redone anytime soon so it'd be simple to do. Or that those two arenas are the full-time homes for those UND programs instead of a renting tenant with no other affiliation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: I am fairly confident that when it gets replaced, you will see the logo at midfield. It's not the age of the turf that keeps the Fighting Hawks logo from the midfield. They can paint that anytime they want (Big Sky logos are going bye bye.) It's that they sold the name at midfield to the highest bidder. When UND runs the Betty, they'll probably have LM Glasfiber as the center logo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, Cratter said: It's not the age of the turf that keeps the Fighting Hawks logo from the midfield. They can paint that anytime they want (Big Sky logos are going bye bye.) It's that they sold the name at midfield to the highest bidder. When UND runs the Betty, they'll probably have LM Glasfiber as the center logo. Considering it's a public facility, that seems fairly logical. It also makes it a bit different than the REA/BESC, which UND pays millions of dollars to be the sole tenant of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford torgerson Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, UNDColorado said: I have wondered this because since birds have feathers it seems a good lawyer could defend this. Is there a lawyer here that can weigh in on this? Having to often employ lawyers about the logo and nickname is the reason I was ready to rid ourselves of the retired ones. It is a continual problem that would continue to reerupt. Plenty of formidable programs have vanilla logos and mascots, like the "ducks" for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MafiaMan Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Should have just gone with this logo. Even the diehard #Siouxforever fans would be for this!! 4 hours ago, nodak651 said: People who keep posting these head dress hawk logos (which would be against ncaa guidelines and are not an option) are the reason we got stuck with the generic hawks nickname. You see a "head dress" and "Native American imagery" while all I see are feathers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: You see a "head dress" and "Native American imagery" while all I see are feathers. Toucan Hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Toucan Hawk As opposed to Casper the Friendly Hawk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeRemote Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 hours ago, petey23 said: Well. I am not a fan, but for starters, their logo doesn't suck. (Not directed at you) It doesn’t suck despite being a generic, grunting grazer with turds on it’s fur, because they win. If NDSU’s football logo and mascot the past 50 years had been a Pekingese peeing on a lamp post it would now be awe inspiring, and Fargo would have a public hanging for the dork who changed it to bison. In sports winning fixes everything. It will at UND too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel_Sioux Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Should have just gone with this logo. Even the diehard #Siouxforever fans would be for this!! This was my favorite fan made Fighting Hawk logo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 This was the one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Yeah, spending money to put the schools athletic logo on the buildings their athletic teams play in is something you rarely see schools spend money on. Give me a break. but but but but but the poor athletes..... the coaches said it, you all quote it every other post.. the players need the logo at mid field/center court or they are disheartened. Its your argument, so if its that damn important why throw out a perfectly good and serviceable sign instead of putting the money where it is so desperately needed. ... as you argue... intoncoaches salaries, lockerrooms, and and the holy grail of midfield? Poor management of budget and expenditures. Something the REA agreement protects ALL UND Athletics from an increase of. I guess you do need a break, from your own arguements maybe??? Watching you struggle with logic is like watching a puppy chasing its tail, and its just as entertaining. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Poor management of budget and expenditures. Something the REA agreement protects ALL UND Athletics from an increase of. The other Dakota schools seem to skid by without oversight from an arena management company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Rebel_Sioux said: This was my favorite fan made Fighting Hawk logo Ah yes, the meth hawk with a headdress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 14 hours ago, petey23 said: Well. I am not a fan, but for starters, their logo doesn't suck. Tremendous point; no sense of bias or subjectivity at all with this statement. This answers the mid-field/mid-court logo concerns entirely; please, everyone, cease debate immediately. The fact there is so much division within the fan base regarding the school's sports emphasis and how the logo can't end up on mid-court/mid-field/mid-ice is certainly a concern. This type of divisiveness should not exist to begin with, but, it does and that is a huge issue. It hurts UND athletics. The sooner this is resolved, the sooner we can all be a united fan base (which is normal for collegiate athletics) and actually see UND accomplish big, new DI things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Tremendous point; no sense of bias or subjectivity at all with this statement. This answers the mid-field/mid-court logo concerns entirely; please, everyone, cease debate immediately. The fact there is so much division within the fan base regarding the school's sports emphasis and how the logo can't end up on mid-court/mid-field/mid-ice is certainly a concern. This type of divisiveness should not exist to begin with, but, it does and that is a huge issue. It hurts UND athletics. The sooner this is resolved, the sooner we can all be a united fan base (which is normal for collegiate athletics) and actually see UND accomplish big, new DI things. There are many here, including myself, that are not fans of the logo but fully understand the need to have it visible at mid field/court/ice. Yet what is ironic is those, including myself, who have suggested that logo be at the 50 yard line have been given one BS line and excuse after another as to why it CAN'T be there. The hypocrisy of some here is mind numbing. I contacted a buddy who works in Arizona with these types of fields/turfs. He said to remove a logo and then add a different one takes time but isn't complicated or impossible as some here suggest. If MK needs to negotiate w McGarry on the mid ice/court logo issues then let's see if he has stones to take on those sponsors calling the shots for the Alerus and get the logo at the 50 yard line for this season. #inthebestinterests 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, MafiaMan said: You see a "head dress" and "Native American imagery" while all I see are feathers. I see trademark infringement. (You don't have to steal the whole image to have infringed.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted May 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2018 The logo on the REA ice is a new stencil and three (existing) colors of paint when they install the ice. The logo on the Betty floor is a resurfacing and repainting of a floor scheduled to be resurfaced and repainted this summer. Better? Could they share the stencil from the REA ice? The logo on the Alerus Center turf requires making the new sections of the field (that will have logo), then cutting the field, and then resewing a $2,000,000.00 surface such that it doesn't have imperfections dangerous to play (remember, the 2012 field lasted one year to 2013 for such issues). Understand that turf is not painted. Those colors are from-the-factory colored turf. No paint. Oh, and turf that was new in 2013: will the new sections color-match the existing field? If they don't it'll be torches and pitchforks. And that's before you mention that: REA/Betty are private entities that control annually sponsorship on the surface. Their private boards ("for the benefit of UND Athletics") control what's on those flats. The Alerus Center is a public (City of GF) entity that has signed a long-term naming rights agreement on the field and cashed the check. Want to remove "Alerus Center" signage from the turf? Include that contract cancellation and repayment in the bill. Things sound and seem easy, until you really dig in and think step-by-step what it would take to make it so. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: There are many here, including myself, that are not fans of the logo but fully understand the need to have it visible at mid field/court/ice. Yet what is ironic is those, including myself, who have suggested that logo be at the 50 yard line have been given one BS line and excuse after another as to why it CAN'T be there. The hypocrisy of some here is mind numbing. I contacted a buddy who works in Arizona with these types of fields/turfs. He said to remove a logo and then add a different one takes time but isn't complicated or impossible as some here suggest. If MK needs to negotiate w McGarry on the mid ice/court logo issues then let's see if he has stones to take on those sponsors calling the shots for the Alerus and get the logo at the 50 yard line for this season. #inthebestinterests Who said it was impossible? Nobody wants a large seam around it, nobody. So that means replacing the all of the entire panels that would encompass the Hawk. That cannot be cheap. Would that go over well in this climate and who would pay for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEdway Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Tremendous point; no sense of bias or subjectivity at all with this statement. This answers the mid-field/mid-court logo concerns entirely; please, everyone, cease debate immediately. The fact there is so much division within the fan base regarding the school's sports emphasis and how the logo can't end up on mid-court/mid-field/mid-ice is certainly a concern. This type of divisiveness should not exist to begin with, but, it does and that is a huge issue. It hurts UND athletics. The sooner this is resolved, the sooner we can all be a united fan base (which is normal for collegiate athletics) and actually see UND accomplish big, new DI things. It will only be resolved when all of us curmudgeons die off. The POS of a logo and name was shoved down our throats and I will never forget that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Who said it was impossible? Nobody wants a large seam around it, nobody. So that means replacing the all of the entire panels that would encompass the Hawk. That cannot be cheap. Would that go over well in this climate and who would pay for it? Climate? It's an indoor stadium with all temperature parameters controlled. (I kid of course) The hockey program. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Climate? It's an indoor stadium with all temperature parameters controlled. (I kid of course) The hockey program. Well, by all means then! We got ourselves a Hawk logo at midfield folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, MrEdway said: It will only be resolved when all of us curmudgeons die off. The POS of a logo and name was shoved down our throats and I will never forget that. Also, put it on your headstone to cement your legacy forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobIwabuchiFan Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 19 hours ago, UND1983 said: I demand they not have two words at midcourt instead of a logo. Well, just pony up about $20 million and I'm sure you will get someone at the University to let you do it! But remember, once you give the gift you are out of the decision making process because the school always knows best how to spend your money.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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